One of the perqs of blogging is that I get free copies of books from publishers that hope I will review them. This morning I tripped over Jason Leopold’s book News Junkie when I left the house for supplies. I’ve read the first few chapters of it, and it makes me a little sad to see what’s happened to Jason over the whole Rove indictment story. I’m not sad because I believe Jason’s version of events. I’m guessing Jason would think me a fool to trust him. I’m sad because I can tell from reading his book that this whole affair is something he is singularly poorly equipped to deal with emotionally. I hope he has friends and family, and a sponsor, that will help him get through this. It would help a lot if Patrick Fitzgerald would make some kind of announcment. We do deserve to know what it going on.
Mark Ash, the editor at Truthout has an interesting explanation for what is going on, and I sure would like to believe he is right. I have excerpted it at length below the fold (I hope Truthout doesn’t mind).
On
Tuesday, June 13, when the mainstream media broke their stories that
Karl Rove had been exonerated, there were frank discussions amongst our
senior editors about retracting our stories outright. The problem we
wrestled with was what exactly do we retract? Should we say that Rove
had not in fact been indicted? Should we say that our sources provided
us with false or misleading information? Had Truthout been used?
Without a public statement from Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald
we felt that it was premature to retract our report.
After
spending the past month retracing our steps and confirming facts, we’ve
come full circle. Our sources continue to maintain that a grand jury
has in fact returned an indictment. Our sources said that parts of the
indictment were read to Karl Rove and his attorney on Friday, May 12,
2006. Last week, we pointed to a sealed federal indictment, case number
“06 cr 128,” which is still sealed and we are still pointing to it.
During lengthy conversations with our sources over the past month, they
reiterated that the substance of our report on May 13, 2006, was
correct, and immediately following our report, Karl Rove’s status in
the CIA leak probe changed. In summary, as we press our investigation
we find indicators that more of our key facts are correct, not less.
That
leaves the most important question: If our sources maintain that a
grand jury has returned an indictment – and we have pointed to a
criminal case number that we are told corresponds to it – then how is
it possible that Patrick Fitzgerald is reported to have said that ‘he
does not anticipate seeking charges against Rove at this time?’ That is
a very troubling question, and the truth is, we do not yet have a
definitive answer. We also continue to be very troubled that no one has
seen the reported communication from Fitzgerald to Rove’s attorney
Robert Luskin, and more importantly, how so much public judgment could
be based on a communication that Luskin will not put on the table.
Before we can assess the glaring contradiction between what our sources
say and what Luskin says Fitzgerald faxed to him, we need to be able to
consider what was faxed – and in its entirety.
What
appears to have happened is that – and this is where Truthout blundered
– in our haste to report the indictment we never considered the
possibility that Patrick Fitzgerald would not make an announcement. We
simply assumed – and we should not have done so – that he would tell
the press. He did not. Fitzgerald appears to have used the indictment,
and more importantly, the fear that it would go public, to extract
information about the Plame outing case from Rove.Yes,
it does appear that Truthout was used, but not lied to or misled. The
facts appear to have been accurate. We reported them, and in so doing,
apparently became an instrument. From all indications, our reports,
first on May 13 that Rove had been indicted, and then on June 12 when
we published case number “06 cr 128,” forced Rove and Luskin back to
the table with Fitzgerald, not once but twice. They apparently sought
to avoid public disclosure and were prepared to do what they had to do
to avoid it.
The
electronic communication from Fitzgerald to Luskin, coming immediately
on the heels of our Monday morning, June 12 article “Sealed vs. Sealed”
that became the basis for the mainstream media’s de facto exoneration
of Karl Rove was, our sources told us, negotiated quickly over the
phone later that afternoon. Luskin contacted Fitzgerald, reportedly
providing concessions that Fitzgerald considered to be of high value,
and Fitzgerald reportedly reciprocated with the political cover Rove
wanted in the form of a letter that was faxed to Luskin’s office.
Our
sources provided us with additional detail, saying that Fitzgerald is
apparently examining closely Dick Cheney’s role in the Valerie Plame
matter, and apparently sought information and evidence from Karl Rove
that would provide documentation of Cheney’s involvement. Rove
apparently was reluctant to cooperate and Fitzgerald, it appears, was
pressuring him to do so, our sources told us.
I’ve been thinking about Ash’s reasoning, and I have been thinking about whether it is possible that Rove really was indicted, but that indictment is sealed, and will remain so as long as Rove is cooperating in Fitzgerald’s investigation. I don’t want to engage in wishful thinking, and Ash’s conclusion, while it makes a lot of sense, seems too good to be true. Here is how I see it.
We know that Karl Rove made false statements to the FBI, just as Scooter Libby did. We know that Karl Rove made false statements to the Grand Jury, perhaps on multiple occassions. And we know that the case against him is pretty strong. Rove’s defense that he had a faulty memory would probably not fly in front of District of Columbia jury. So, what possible reason would Fitzgerald have not to indict Rove?
One possibility is that Fitzgerald does not want to disrupt the functioning of government by indicting someone as important as Karl Rove on mere perjury and obstruction charges. I find that hard to believe. The only other possibility I can think of is that Karl Rove is cooperating. But, if he is cooperating, who else but Dick Cheney can he be cooperating against? And is very hard to believe that Karl Rove would agree to cooperate against Dick Cheney as long as George W. Bush has the power to pardon him.
Now, the last possibility, and it is a real one, is that Leopold, Ash, and the other Truthout editors are getting yanked around by their sources. But, even if they have everything wrong, it still doesn’t explain why Fitzgerald would decline to prosecute someone that lied to his grand jury and obstructed his investigation for years.
Something is going on.
My best guess is that Rove made some kind of deal that would prevent Fitzgerald from giving a press conference and calling him out as criminal. This allows him to keep his job and work on the elections. The big question is, what has he had to give in return for this? Will Fitzgerald ever make an announcment that Dick Cheney has been indicted?
I agree with you that something is going on. And absent someone yanking our collective chain and setting out to make Leopold look like an idiot, that something has to involve Cheney.
At least I hope so. I have begun to think that Bush is just The Face and does what he’s told, and that Cheney is really in charge. If all this is true, though, it means someone is either making a serious mistake in putting the HMFIC in a position where the guy who’s really running the show can be indicted (everything I’ve ever heard indicates that you can’t indict the President without things getting incredibly messy), or it’s an incredible brass-cajones gamble that they won’t dare indict Cheney simply because he is running the country.
I also agree that I wish we had some idea what was going on, but Fitzgerald has his reasons for disclosing or not disclosing his information, and none of those reasons has anything to do with satisfying the curiosity of a bunch of bloggers.
One thing that is a shame (but fair) is that Fitz is not ever going to make statements about anyone unless he indicts them. So, we’ll probably never hear a peep about what went down with Rove until he shows up to testify.
But Fitz should be bringing indictments against someone soon. Shouldn’t he?
I would think so. I would hope so. Actually I would hope he brings indictments against a whole slew of people, and names a bunch more as unindicted co-conspirators. I really hate the idea that all this time and all this effort and all this money gets expended, and he only ends up with one relatively minor guy to show for it.
coming from the Abramoff case? Like Ney?
what possible reason would Fitzgerald have not to indict Rove?
If it’s true, as some have reported, that Fitzgerald intends to call Rove as a witness against Libby, then’s he’s going to want to preserve Rove’s credibility (yea, I know, my fingers nearly went into paralysis typing that phrase). Charging Rove with perjury & obstruction would immediately open him to impeachment by Libby’s lawyers. It could be as simple as that.
From what we know today, it’s equally plausible that the situation is much more complicated. Unfortunately, we’re just going to have to wait.
thanks for this. That’s an idea that hadn’t occurred to me. I don’t think it is the reason, but it is a plausible reason.
It’s a win-win for R & L. compatible w/ a number of other speculative scenarios (reasons)
And in my mind, we shouldn’t rule out the possibility that there are some untoward things happening behind closed doors. Blackmail has never been far from the seat of power. Maybe Rove’s lawyers are holding something over Fitzgerald. That would explain both the indictment, and his weird statement after the fact.
But who knows? That’s sheer speculation, and I don’t really believe that myself. Just another possibility, while we’re all wondering. I truly don’t know, and have several opinions on the matter – none of them taking the lead, so far..!
and ragged thinking
which name above your use of “his” is the proper andecedant
If you wish to make accusations, at least make them clearly.
Since this entire diary and thread are based on speculation, I fail to see what makes this particular speculation any more egregious than any other.
Also, since you’re intent on proper expression, you need to check your spelling of “antecedant”[sic]. Also, complete sentences with proper punctuation might make your comment more readable.
I suggest that Bush is plotting against Cheney and wants him gone after the next elections — possibly by the latter announcing that he is resigning for “health reasons.” You may be totally right that Cheney has been de facto president. But that makes my point for me — Bush is a domineering man who wants to call the shots for himself and wants no interference. For instance, there is his “I’ve got my life to live” moment and his rule that he always leads the way when biking with reporters.
This suggests that Rove escaped indictment for now by cooperating completely with Fitzgerald to save his own skin. This allows him to smear Libby and Cheney at the trial this January so that he can save his own skin. And Bush would want to get rid of Cheney because he sees him as a liability with his poll numbers in the teens.
I asked this on another thread on this topic, and never got an answer: Do we know for a fact from a source other than Truthout that there is a sealed indictment? Not obviously who is indicted, but that such a filing exists?
If there is a sealed indictment, I find it either inexplicable or a real problem with the law that it can remain sealed indefinitely. What does “sealed” mean anyway? Not really indicted?
So absent any information on that, here really is what we know (I think): Luskin’s lawyer announced that Rove is not going to be indicted according to a letter from Fitzgerald; no one has seen this letter; Fitgerald declines comment.
Unless something happens soon to clarify this, this whole Fitzgerald operation begins to smell.
I don’t have time to doublecheck & document this, but believe I’ve read that it’s confirmed that there is indeed a sealed criminal indictment in the DC court docket. What’s weird is that both parties are anonymous — usually it’s US v. _. There is no way of knowing if it has anything to do with the leak investigation; it could be another prosecutor’s case.
I’m much more hazy on this, but will throw it out if you want to researchit. There may be cases (likely organized crime, where sealed indictments are common in ongoing investigations) where a sealed indictment was deeemed moot because prosecutor’s had delayed too long (however long that might be) before bringing it to trial.
Don’t read anything to into Fitzgerald’s “no comment.” That’s all he’s allowed.
I don’t have access to the D. C. docket database but for what it’s worth, someone else apparently did, using PACER — Marie26 at Democratic Underground.com, whose June 12 post has the docket between May 10 and June 12; it includes:
Jason Leopold reported May 13 that on Friday, May 12, Rove’s lawyers had been served with an indictment. Leopold did not state the case number. Subsequently, Marc Ash has stated the indictment is case #128, believed to have been filed May 10 – May 12. However, assuming sequential filings, #00128 was not filed until between May 16 and May 17.
Perhaps notice was given May 12 and the indictment simply wasn’t filed until the following Monday or Tuesday. Perhaps someone looking for a likely sealed indictment seized on #128 as the best guess.
Did the sources for the initial report hear or see: (a) portions of an indictment read out loud to Rove’s lawyers; (b)lawyers actually served with an indictment; (c) lawyers handed a draft of an indictment, then receive by mail a copy of the indictment with the file #; (d) a combination of the above?
Was there an assumption that a document handed to Rove’s lawyers was an indictment based on [an inaccurate description in] a proof of service?
What’s the possible scenario in D. C.? Is an indictment “filed” before delivery? Can service properly be made on an individual’s representatives?
Where’s Deep Throat now that we need him?
Btw – re Sealed Indictments, from http://www.mcacp.org/issue5.html:
Thanks, Lisa. This is helpful.
“I am not a criminal.”
Would anyone like to hear those words repeated again by another President?
If nobody knows he is indicted he can’t be officially pardoned, can he?
pardons can be written VERY broadly…
“…for any crimes he may have committed…”
see Bush 41
The bestest line of speculation suggests that Rove has been given clearance to sell out Cheney . . . there’s been speculation since 2004 that Cheney would not serve out the second term, that the VP slot would be turned over to the administration’s favored 2008 candidate, and since this all seems to go back to Cheney’s office, it could be just the thing. He resigns to spend more time with Halliburton — err, his family — Jeb/Condo/whoever is made Veep, it’s a “fresh start” for the administration and you have an incumbent continuity candidate ’08. I don’t know how likely any of that is, as it runs pretty deep as conspiracy theories go, but there have been plenty of reports of tension between the PotUS and VPotUS with everything that’s come out.
On the other hand, the scariest possibility is that the DoJ — or the White House itself — intervened on Rove’s behalf somehow. It sucks to even contemplate, but it’s possible that the Attorney General or the President may have stepped in and pre-emptively pardoned Rove or some procedural nonsense. Bush told reporters ‘the investigation is over’ — but there’s been no comment from Fitzgerald’s office. That seems to support the idea that somebody other than Fitzgerald has decided the investigation is over.
Yes,it’s all we can do. While there is almost inevitably tension between staffs, Bush’s vs. Cheney’s, this would represent betrayal at the top, and it doesn’t feel to me like this is happening. Bush isn’t personally powerful enough to challenge Cheney, or, if you believe Suskind, “Edgar.”
So I’m pretty skeptical that Rove is giving them Cheney. Nothing else quite makes sense either, so I’m officially puzzled.
However, Cheney stepping down after November does make sense. And Rove could resign then as well, that wouldn’t surprise me. But what this all has to do with Fitzgerald, I can’t even guess. We might find out more if the Dems take the House, though that’s not a given either.
My line of reasoning goes — and again, this is pure speculation for its own sake — that the decision has been made at some level that Cheney, who was leaving anyway — gets to “take one for the team” and take responsibility for the whole mess (conveniently clearing the PotUS in the process). If played properly — and these guys are great at political gamesmanship — Cheney’s fall can be parlayed into redemption for the administration, allowing their faction to hold on to power in 2008. Fitzgerald wouldn’t need to be a party to this at all . . . he simply acts on the testimony he’s given.
As things are now going, not only are the Reeps in danger of losing control of the government, but the neocons are in danger of losing control of the Reeps. Which of those is more worrisome to the administration I can’t decide. I’m of the opinion that a Hillary administration would be more in line with the present one than a McCain administration would be, in terms of agenda.
Rummy will have to be consulted…
don’t think he’s in to sacrificial lambs…
I’d predict if push is coming to shove, Bush and Rove against Cheney and company the long time alliance will prevail.
Cheney’s interview today with John King successfully shows Cheney’s leadership and policy setting thought processes, a command of the battle fields by Cheney, while Bush is thrashing around shouting at Austrian reporters.
Cheney is the main man… Bush is the puppet.
I think Cheney and Rummy were able to thwart the revolt of the generals recently (attacking Rumsfeld’s job) and there are rumors papa Bush was orchestrating that to protect junior. If Cheney and Rummy can overcome Bush 41 and cohorts, this current push by Bush 43, Rove and the staff (political hacks like Brownie and Safavian) they have working for them is doomed and the old school will prevail.
Cheney will not run, but I’m fearful that he will annoint the Republican nominee for 2008.
Cheney knows Fitzgerald is going through the motions required by our judicial system, but Cheney knows he can stay more than one step ahead of that process.
Redemption (being saved from sin, error, or evil) is not what I see as a Cheney/Rumsfeld goal. Perhaps the older meaning applies (gaining possession of something in exchange for payment)?
I suppose I should have said “redemption in the eyes of the public” . . . if you can’t stop the scandal from outing, you at least make it seem like the President wasn’t involved. Cheney’s office may have been too-much identified with this whole mess for him escape, but he can say he acted without Bush’s knowledge, step down, and go back to the private sector. Bush fighting back tears as he announces that he’s accepted his Veep’s resignation would play well to the middle third, and allow the message machine to pin all the blame on that Cheney fellow — who will never see a day of prison, of course, since a trial would be too divisive and endanger the national security. Not to mention that a good confirmation fight over a replacement Veep will rally the Reep base.
Anyway, that’s all pretty unlikely. I think I’m just writing bad political novels in my head. I think the second scenario — that the investigation has just been squished from above — is much more probable, and I wouldn’t put money on that one either.
Interesting threat. Like all of us, I hope Leopold isn’t crazy. It’s heartening that truthout is standing behind him–it suggests maybe he has some veracity.
Two points: one is that I don’t think Bush/Rove are going after Cheney. Remember, the general opinion is that Bush won’t fire Rumsfeld because that would suggest the war was a mistake. So why would he get rid of Cheney, so is even more central to the effort?
The other is that if Fitzgerald has something on Cheney, he will lay his cards on the table before November. After the mid-term, Bush will be much freer with the ability to promise/issue pardons and pressure Fitz in ways we don’t know about. So, Fitzgerald’s leverage grows every day we get closer to November–but will fall of a cliff once election day passes.
I think it would help us figure out all this stuff if we could determine who Rove is actually taking orders from. Certainly it’s clear he’s serving his own interests, and at least on paper he’s serving the interests of Bush, but I think it also clear he’s not one who’s taking orders from the Cheney camp, even though there’s no question that the Cheney gang and Rove have had a confluence of interests across a broad spectrum.
So, if Rove is not a devotee of the Cheney cult maybe he’s more actively part of an effort by some other organized group who wants to challenge Cheney and the neocons for control of the executive branch, and perhaps this is a factor behind all the apparent confusion over his status. If this were the case, Rove could dish the dirt on Cheney et. al and this other group could, at l;east in theory, offer him some protection from retaliation by murderous Cheney thugs.
Just a thought, and a scenario which would dovetail perfectly with Fitzgerald’s activities.
Perhaps. But perhaps it’s far simpler: A bunch of these folks, at the height of their arrogance, conspired to commit a crime. Fitzgerald is peeling them back one by one. He has Libby. He may have some more folks. He has Rove dead to rights–at least on perjury–and he has extracted information in exchange for some consideration (no indictment/no announcement of an indictment). We (I included) may be over analyzing when we talk about Cheney camps versus Bush camps, etc. etc. If Rove committed a crime and has gotten caught, all of his supposed brilliance is neutralized. (On a side note, I’ve often wondered why, if Rove is so brilliant, is his boss’s approval rating in the 30s.)
I take yourt point about over-analyzing. The principle of “Occam’s Razor” is startlingly accurate far more often that not.
I would clarify that I don’t posit a Cheney camp vs a Bush camp as others do. I view Bush himself as an empty vessel, an aggressively dysfunctional imbecile over whom, (because of his position of power), the Cheney gang and others are battling for control of.
As for Rove and the obvious question you raise;
It seems to me that Bush polling is so low as a result of the death grip Cheney and his neocons have had on the regime, and that the delusional neocon insanity is so off the wall and dysfunctional that not even a craven schemer like Rove can devise a powerful enough propaganda campaign to lift his client up out of that stiniking morass.
(Note that none of what I say here is intended in any way as praise or excuse making for Rove. He is a piece of deviousshit who should have been exiled from positions of power within human society long ago.)
It would help a lot if Patrick Fitzgerald would make some kind of announcment.
It would be insane for Fitzgerald to jepordize this case over a journalist who embarrassed himself over the use of anonymous sources.
I meant it would help Jason’s state of mind.
Fitz won’t say a word unless he indicts. But, I wish he would do something, one way or the other. If Rove has cooperated, how long will it be before that cooperation bears fruit?
My guess is that they have made Fitz an offer he couldn’t refuse.
give it a rest
if Fitz were subject to that sort of pressure it would have stopped him long before he ever reached Chicago, never mind this appointment.
As for Leopold and TruthOut, I have no reason to not believe them at this point. It could very well be that all of their part is accurate and other factors came into play. Sealed indictments are not uncommon. The use of secret court proceedings, secret witnesses by the govt/prosecution, secret evidence, secret dockets and so on have been far more common lately with far lesser cases.
Don’t forget who we’re dealing with.
The grand jury process is secret. We aren’t supposed to know anything. Fitzgerald will not issue a report when he’s done. Pardons can be granted pre-emptively, be broad in absolution and kept secret on the claim of national security.
Look at what this admin has done and gotten away with the past 5-6 years. They operate on a level that normal law doesn’t apply. Fitzgerald might have the oath of his office to do his best in seeking justice but he’s no fool to destroy his own life for principle that would be immediately trashed and buried. His comments from the Libby indictment press conference was the best clue that his opinion is that Congress needs to assert it’s authority properly in order to find the true justice in this.
I think indictments-deals-pleas and all have been filed all along and all of it sealed forever as it went. I believe the pardons are already in, mostly ro avoid the trials that NOBODY wants to have public.
Check it out…
Considering that Rove’s PR-media consultant’s career involvement put that PR consultant as Communication Director for John Ashcroft when this all happened, I’d say the run to the memory hole is on.
Hey, really, how much do they let us know about anything they do? It’s like letting small kids or young pets get away with bad behavior, continually, over a long period of time. At point is reached where there is little external control that works.
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