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Posted by BooMan | Jul 27, 2006 | 20 |

David Frum, the guy that brought us ‘Axis-of-Evil’, has admitted reality:

It’s like some baby boomer nightmare: after decades of swearing that we would never repeat the mistakes of our parents, we are re-enacting the errors committed in Indochina in the 1960s and 1970s, every single one.

Yes. Plus, we have used the FBI to spy on war protesters, the NSA to listen to calls without a warrant, we have tortured people, we have looked into people’s banking transactions without a warrant, we have used military intelligence to spy on Quakers…

When you look at it in its totality, it is exactly like a baby boomer nightmare. Even the faces (Rumsfeld and Cheney) remain the same. That makes it a recurring nightmare. Except for one thing: a nightmare is just a dream. This is reality. Reality…once again.

No more Nixons, no more Bushes.

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Indianadem on July 27, 2006 at 4:27 pm

Columnist Gene Lyons writes in the Arkansas Democrat Gazette

Herd the livestock inside the gates, raise the drawbridge and man the parapets: There’s a populist rebellion gathering force in Connecticut. Armed with pitchforks and flaming torches, the rebellious peasants of the nation’s wealthiest state are reported to be marching on Sen. Joe Lieberman’s castle. Or perhaps we should call him Lord Lieberman. Judging by their shocked tone, commentator Josh Marshall observes, that’s how most Washington courtier / pundits view Ned Lamont’s Aug. 8 primary challenge to Connecticut’s three-term Democratic senator–as a revolutionary insurrection against a hereditary peer of the realm.

I think flaming torches are downright heartwarming;-)
- Omir the Storyteller on July 27, 2006 at 4:42 pm
  
  “A riot is an ugly thing . . . and I think it is about time we had one!”
  
  — Inspector Kemp, Young Frankenstein
  
  Would that we had a few more of these insurrections going on.
  - Indianadem on July 27, 2006 at 5:08 pm
    
    The Third Estate slowly awakens…
    
    Third Estate
    1st. What is the third estate? Everything.
    2nd. What has it been heretofore in the political order? Nothing.
    3rd. What does it demand? To become something therein.
    –Abbé Sieyès, “What is the third estate?”(“Qu’est-ce que le Tiers-Etat?”), January 1789 [4]
    The Third Estate (Fr. tiers état) was the generality of people which were not part of the other estates.
    The Third Estate comprised all those who were not members of the aristocracy or the clergy, including peasants, working people and the bourgeoisie. In 1789, the Third Estate made up 98% of the population in France. Due in part to a limited franchise, the representatives of the Third Estate actually came from the wealthy upper bourgeoisie; sometimes the term’s meaning has been restricted to the middle class, as opposed to the working class
  - KNUCKLEHEAD on July 27, 2006 at 5:32 pm
    
    I am watching Coulter on “Hardball” now, & she`s the perfect excuse for a riot. A very sick person, she is, & not the kind of disease one would sympathize with.
Shalimar on July 27, 2006 at 5:02 pm

David Frum: we are re-enacting the errors committed in Indochina in the 1960s and 1970s, every single one.

Speak for yourself and your administration, kemo sabe. I personally and millions like me have opposed the horrible moronic policies you now admit were errors, every single one of them.
BooMan on July 27, 2006 at 5:10 pm

I heard this story first hand on Tuesday and I was skeeved out. But I thought I’d share it in written form.
mlr701 on July 27, 2006 at 5:44 pm

The thing that frightens me is that we’re going to do it again in 30 years.

All those fighting keyboardists? All those College Republicans who support this stupid war but won’t fight in it? They’ll be back, and they’ll have their own quagmire.

I’m convinced that the only solution is compulsory national service. No deferrments, no exemptions. Everyone serves. Say, two years, at least one of them in the military. If people have to worry that little Madison and Austin might get their butts shot off overseas (rather than some poor person), they may actually think for five seconds the next time some lunatic/idiot/madman/Bush wants to repeat Vietnam.
dada on July 27, 2006 at 5:49 pm

and Condi’s gonna do a piano recital…

In keeping with her mood and to reflect the world crises she tackles daily, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice plans to play a somber piece of music to her Asian colleagues in Malaysia this week.”It is not a time that is frivolous. It is a serious time. I will play something that is in accordance with my serious mood,” said Rice, who had just attended a conference in Rome aimed at helping resolve the Lebanon crisis.–Rice said she would not be comfortable singing show tunes.

can you say WTF?…I knew you could.
- NorthDakotaDemocrat on July 27, 2006 at 6:25 pm
  
  She might as well be playing a fiddle.
  - dada on July 27, 2006 at 6:43 pm
    
    Brings to mind the image of Vincent Price playing the organ as The House of Usher…the embodiment of evil…collapses around him.
    
    The mind numbing arrogance and lack of the most basic mental and moral skills of BushCo™ is truly astounding.
    
    “In times of tumult and discord bad men have the most power; mental and moral excellence require peace and quietness .”
    
    TACITUS
- olivia on July 27, 2006 at 6:47 pm
  
  It’s madness …
- Man Eegee on July 27, 2006 at 7:04 pm
  
  get over the fact that this really happened and is not some sick joke inserted into a Monty Python movie plot.
  
  Via Newsweek, reporting on the G8 Summit
  
  The other world leaders arrive that evening, and the official summit begins with a lavish feast. The dinner is something out of a Fellini epic, staged at the magnificent Peterhof Palace, built by Peter the Great. The scene is a uniquely Russian mix of historical grandeur, political power and touristy kitsch. The Russians offer a seven-course meal including caviar and beef stroganoff (maybe Chirac has a point), served by waiters wearing powdered wigs. Outside, a bear dressed in a green tutu with pink polka dots performs tricks. – linkage (emphasis mine)
- ejmw on July 27, 2006 at 7:40 pm
  
  Now where have I heard of something similar…
  
  Hmmmm…
  
  Oh yeah.
  
  Think we’ll get pictures of Condi too?
jimstaro on July 27, 2006 at 6:16 pm

Is anybody else having trouble reading the ‘Comments’??

Front page loads alright and looks the same, since yesterday when I click on one of the posts, the Ads are on the right, looking like there in the right margin. But the Left Side is Blank and the Comments are pushed in that direction, thus Cutting Off Anything Written there., so the ‘Subject’ is only partially posted and the beginings of every ‘Comment’ are in that Blank Space.

I downloaded the ‘Explorer 7 Beta’ yesterday and am wondering if that has anything to do with it, if so it’s just happening on this site!
- Omir the Storyteller on July 27, 2006 at 7:02 pm
  
  That’s your problem right there. I tested out the IE7 beta a couple of months ago and saw the same problem.
  
  Personally I recommend that ‘Tribbers not attempt to test out IE7 until and unless that problem gets fixed. Use Firefox instead. 🙂
- vieravisionary on July 27, 2006 at 7:43 pm
  
  Yes, I too used IE7 beta for a very short period of time and removed from my computer ASAP! It needs a lot more work to be ready for “prime time!” :-)!
keepinon on July 27, 2006 at 6:40 pm

So true! Don’t think we will have to worry about anyone in the future referring to the “Boomers” as “The Greatest Generation”, do you?
jimstaro on July 27, 2006 at 7:27 pm

Can’t respond to whomever gave me the answer but I figured That was the poblem, trouble is This Site Seems To Be The Only One I’m Having Trouble With.

So far any others I go to No Problem, so wondering if it’s the Beta 7 or the Servers for this site?
jimstaro on July 27, 2006 at 7:28 pm

The Whole Responses:

IAVA New Video Up

IAVA Video

Iraq and Afganistan Veterans of America

Not at Youtubes at Google so Link to put player in post didn’t work!!
Nestor Makhnow on July 27, 2006 at 10:03 pm

Duuuuuuoooooooooooooooh!

What you mean ‘we’ fucktard. I ain’t got no problem wit no Haji…

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