Some good stuff to read: Letter from an American in Ramallah and Tom Hayden’s Democrats Pull Down Party Pillar Supporting Iraq War. But I am going to concentrate on E.J. Dionne’s A Primary Lesson for Lieberman.
Dionne starts out by recalling a scene from 1980. Sen. Jacob Javits, was in primary fight with an ideological firebrand named Al D’Amato. Nine Republican Senators came to New York to try to help save Javits career. It didn’t work. Taking out a fixture of the Senate like Javits was a triumph for the right-wing of the Republican Party. Dionne sees the same process taking place in Connecticut, but this time in the other party.
Ideologically based primary challenges to important incumbents almost always signal major changes in the political winds. That’s as true of Lamont’s strong campaign against Lieberman as it was of D’Amato’s victory, following as it did the primary defeats of two other liberal Republican senators — Clifford Case of New Jersey in 1978 and Thomas Kuchel of California 10 years earlier — at the hands of conservatives.
The upstarts who beat Case and Kuchel later lost the fall elections. But their cleansing of progressives from Republican ranks was part of a long conservative march that culminated in Ronald Reagan’s 1980 victory and the hold that conservatives now have on the elected branches of the federal government.
The opposition to Lieberman is motivated by an effort to reverse the trend to the right. It’s true that Lamont’s campaign has been energized by widespread opposition to the Iraq war and the fact that Lieberman has been one of the most loyal Democratic defenders of President Bush’s Middle East policies.
But Lieberman’s troubles are, even more, about a new aggressiveness in the Democratic Party called forth by disgust with the Bush presidency — an energy comparable to the vigor that a loathing for liberalism brought to the Republican right in the 1970s and ’80s.
Like the earlier generation of conservatives, today’s Democratic activists are impatient with accommodating the powers that be. They demand that Democrats stop trying to chase a “center” that has veered ever rightward since 1980. Instead, they want to haul that center back to more progressive terrain. That’s why so much of the political energy in Connecticut seems to be with Lamont. [emphasis mine]
I am hoping that Dionne is right. I think he has a better finger on the pulse of this campaign than other Beltway reporters. Some of the blog movement doesn’t care about moving the center, but just winning. But the majority of are hoping to move the center far back to the left and totally discredit the Republican movement as it has evolved since 1980. That doesn’t mean we want to go back to the 1970’s. It means we want to beat the Republicans so badly that they will have to find a new coalition and a more socially moderate agenda. We have a two-party system. We can’t afford to have one party hopelessly corrupt and in the thralls of religious fundamentalists. It’s dangerous and bad for our country. Maybe Ned Lamont is the canary in the coal mine. Maybe we are about to start the long march back to power.
Any comparison between Mr. Lamont, and Senator Pothole[Al D’Amato] is a mean smear against Mr. Lamont as I see it.
Joe’s gotta’ go. Pick any number of reasons.
For me it IS the war. Folks in Ct., Joe didn’t care; the lies, distortions, the corruption. Joe DID NOT CARE.
Big time difference here.
D’Amato was a total crook. He had run the insurance scam on Long Island for 20 years or more that I am proud to say one of my ancestors actually invented and perfected there…you know, the “I won’t take bribes because I am totally honest. But I WILL…or my brother will, anyway…sell you some insurance. LOTS of insurance” scam. Plus Javits was getting old.
And D’Amato was no ideological firebrand. He was a self-serving politician with ties to all KINDS of dirty dealers, and if he had thought that growing his hair long and joining the Weathermen would have gotten him what he wanted, he would have done THAT.
Bet on it.
Lieberman is NOT old yet. He still has presidential ambitions, fer chrissake. And Lamont is a small time businessman trying to swim with the sharks.
I am not saying that Lamont will not win. In fact, I think he WILL win. The primary. And then he will be defeated by an “independent” Lieberman in the election. Lamont will be run out of town by the PermaGov money and endorsements that flow towards Lieberman.
A primary of this sort is to a great degree an ideological vote.
Elections?
A whole ‘nother horse race.
Lieberman by a neck.
Sad to say.
Unless BushCo goes down nationally to a STUNNING defeat.
I mean…they’ve certainly EARNED one. I just do not think that the media filter will allow that information to seep down into the level where tectonic voting shifts occur.
We shall see.
AG
P.S. By the way…Lamont is a weak candidate. No charisma, no campaign experience. Someone like Paul Hackett would have eaten Lieberman UP. As would have any really good pro.
Lamont?
If this were a poker game, he’d be winning on luck.
As any good poker player knows, in the long run luck is not enough.
Not NEARLY enough.
Actually, when Javits lost, he, too, entered as a third candidate in the general (I’m not sure if as an independent, or as a small party candidate).
He siphoned off enough liberal votes from the Democrat (Elizabeth Holtzman, I believe) to give Damato the seat.
Food for thought.
My God! Someone who agrees with me about Lamont!!
Lamont may be many things, but charismatic is not one of them. It’s difficult to decide which is the more negative: his charisma or his speaking ability.
Still, he gets my vote and support. He was the only one with the guts and resources to oppose Joey Short-Ride (as I believe Jane Hamsher nick-named him).
Arthur, you may well be right about the luck, but as so many have said perceptively: sometimes luck (always?) is better than skill. He only needs to hold until early November.
I hope I’m wrong.
Gotta call ’em like I see ’em, though…
AG
I have never seen or heard Ned Lamont, but the people in CT who say in the polls that they prefer him to Lieberman have.
Lamont can win this thing.
I have never been a big E.J. Dionne fan, but that has changed in the last year. I think he hits this right on the head, more so than even the NYT editorial. Joe Lieberman is the number one poster boy for post-(Bill) Clinton DLC centrism. That is why he is hated, and that is why it’s a big deal if he loses.
To be clear, though, I think Arthur Gilroy is right that the forces of perma-corp politics will come out heavy for Lieberman. The question then becomes whether they will be effective in a place like CT, where more people than average make up their own minds rather than doing what they’re told.
I don’t believe that Dionne is correct. It is simply this: Lieberman has failed to represent the bulk of his constituents, and they have finally awakened and smelled the decaf latte. Too much is being read into this.
That’s my impression too. I live in the heartland, so may have a skewed view of the CT race, but Lamont sure doesn’t appear to be a lefty. He differs from Joe on Iraq in a mild manner, but I sure don’t see any calls for radical change. Looks like this is more about teaching Lieberman a lesson than a shift in the ideological wind. I hope I’m wrong tho.
It looks like Lamont is going to win the primary.
Now, what about the election itself? The Republican candidate is, as far as I can tell, a non-factor, so the two questions leading into the general election are:
1. Will the Democratic party support Lamont (assuming he wins next week)?
and,
2. Who is going to come out and support Liebermann?
To the extent that the Democrats and their organizations (the DSCC, the DNC, the DLC) support Lamont, the Democrats have a chance as a party. To the extent that Liebermann gets support from the Democratic party apparatus or prominent Democrats (e.g. the Clintons), we can discern that they are about the Status Quo and not about actually presenting any kind of effective alternative to the Republicans.
We’ll see who’s who and what’s what.
By the way, does Liebermann even have a chance of running as an independent? Doesn’t he have like eight days to come up with enough signatures to put himself on the ballot?
Good point, Omir. I hadn’t thought about the CT election as a crisis point for the Dem party. If significant Democrat biggies support an indy Lieberman campaign, it’s hard to see how the party can continue to exist as a definable force. Which could be a good thing in the long run, but we can’t afford to blow the opportunity that Bush and the Reps have handed us for the near-term. I hope some intelligent Dem powers see that they must persuade Lieberman to accept the primary decision if they want their party to remain viable.
Probably more like “force him to accept it,” since so far from Liebermann’s point of view this appears to be more about Liebermann than about the future of the Democratic Party.
Maybe they can find some way to pacify him with a high-level party job or a promise of a cabinet position in a future administration if it comes down to it. Personally, I’m hoping he will either see the writing on the wall (e.g. if Lamont wins by a pretty respectable percentage) and bow out gracefully, or won’t be able to make the ballot as an independent.
to Joe and tell him, “If you run as an Independent, you can kiss away any position in a Democratic administration, including Ambassador to Israel. Oh, and forget about any sort of White House run, either…”
The real test will come in the general election. There we will see Lieberman’s so-called dedication to the Democratic Party give way to his crass ambition to simply stay in office for no other reason than to stay in office and he will run as an “independent.”
What will be most telling is whether or not Democrats like former President Clinton Senator Clinton and Joe Biden who are currently campaigning for Lieberman back the Democratic nominee Lamont in the general election. I believe all have said they will support the Democratic nominee. If that support is more than just token, then Dionne’s analysis is given more credibility.
consider this one from the big orange, yes I do read there..wink, wink
I don’t think it’s useful to fall into the trap of comparing lefty eras. Nor to diss centrism when centrism provided a good answer. Better to create a new frame entirely: we seek an evolution in government that reflects the world as it is and rises to meet the best interests of the nation, not one based on any ideology that looks wistfully for a nice moment from the past.
Freed from the budget demands of the Cold War and confronted with a technology revolution, we had a president who led us to the best substantive wage gains since the 1960s and balanced the nation’s budget for the first time in decades.
Now we face several challenges. Boomers at the edge of retirement whose needs we must meet. Education and health costs that grew far faster than inflation, but remain essential to our nation’s growth and security. Globally organized terrorist groups using 4th generation warfare methods that our military has to adapt to to emerge victorious. A bold approach like the one that won the race to the moon, that will take us to fresh energy sources to break the deadly costs of our oil addiction, which include repetitive wars and the terrible consequences of global warming.
Only politicians looking backward gain from using worn out labels for yesterday’s fashions. The nation, looking forward, seeks sensible solutions to modern challenges. We must evolve, we must progress, if we are to advance and succeed.
We can be conservative about using natural resources, thrifty in our budgeting, liberal in defense of our freedoms, and daring in pursuit of bold new initiatives to conquer the fresh challenges ahead.
We cannot get mired in the mud of old meaningless labels that defined a time gone by.Those are the wagon ruts of tired minds willing to accept the continental divide and global insecurity.
And the times demand the imaginations and dreams and investments and sweat equity of a nation eager to move forward. The opposite of progressive isn’t conservative, because progressives respect many things that must be conserved. The opposite is cowardice and that can never be the American way.