James Carville gave a speech this morning. Here is some of what he said.
Breezing through his standard roster of jokes (Mary Matalin and estrogen, Howard Dean, Dan Quayle), James Carville, one of politics’ most successful consultants and one of Bill Clinton’s best friends, pronounced the 2006 election “pretty predictable.”
But, he said, “The most disturbing thing to me as a Democrat was that this was the third election cycle in a row that Republicans have closed better than us. Wherever we were on Friday before, we were not as good on Election Day.”
The “most positive thing,” he said: “the thing that reaches out and slaps you across the face is 18-t0-30s. I think we won them about 61 to 39. Way Way better than any other age group. If you’re a political party, you’d rather have [that age group] because they tend to be around longer.”
“There is no clear Republican frontrunner,” which Carville calls an historical anomaly. Not since 1940 has the Republican Party not annointed its standardbearer years in advance. Republicans, Carville said, aren’t used to divisive, competitive primaries.
Another historical anomaly: “We’re going to have five larger-than-life candidates running for President. McCain, Giuliani, Hillary Clinton, Obama and Al Gore. And you want to make it interesting, you might have Newt Gingrich in it.”
The rest of the fields: “It’s hard to see them as president.”
“Giuliani and McCain are larger than life people. They’re not the most temperate men I know. Maybe we’ll have a little fisticuffs. In the long, freezing cold, irritating saga of the campaign, we know many delicious things are going to happen.”
On Hillary Clinton’s potential campaign: “I don’t think I’m going to work on it, but I’ll be helpful where I can.”
I have a little quiz for you. When was the last time the Republicans fielded a Presidential slate that didn’t have a Bush or a Dole on it? Think about it for a minute and I’ll give you the answer below the fold.
It’s interesting that Carville just assumes that Al Gore will again run for the presidency. I don’t think Gore will and I don’t think Carville knows any different. I basically agree with his assessment of the candidates. McCain and Guiliani have star power. But they are also abrasive personalities. Any tussle between them would get pretty interesting. Romney looks like a President, but that is probably not enough. It’s impossible to picture any other Republican winning the nomination and becoming President. I do think, however, that Newt Gingrich will do very well in Republican primaries. I don’t know how well he will do, but he certainly is going to appeal to a lot of bedrock conservatives that mistrust McCain and don’t agree with Guiliani on social issues. For Gingrich to win, the national environment needs to be just right. Republicans will have to be simultaneously willing to overlook Newt’s rather glaring blemishes (including ethical ones) and willing to stick to principle over any practical or ‘electability’ concerns. Those two factors may seem mutually exclusive, but with the right mood, Newt could thread the needle.
He can blunt the ethical problem by pointing out the rather glaring ethical problems of John McCain (Keating 5) and Guiliani (Bernie Kerik). Newt is smart as a whip and a great debater. He’ll never become President, but he might just win his party’s nomination (but only if they are not in a mood to win).
As for the Democrats, there is a very large field. And all of the candidates are viable on some level. I definitely think Hillary can win it all, but not without hurting Democrats running all throughout red America. The country might just be in the mood to give Al Gore the job they tried to give him in 2000. As for Obama, he has potential but seems like more a VP candidate. The question is whether anyone else (Edwards?) can get any traction. My biggest regret is that the netroots do not have a candidate to rally around so that we can flex our muscles.
The last time the Republicans fielded a Presidential slate that did not include a Bush or a Dole was the Nixon-Agnew ticket of 1972.
eyeing the possibility of being a VP candidate.
wins just as long as we are out of Iraq and they fire the whole fucking Air Force 🙂
Frankly, I can’t see Gore running either & the remainder of Carville’s Dem field definitely leaves me tepid.
If the base won’t trust McCain, they sure as hell won’t trust Rudy. Rudy is not going anywhere. You heard it here first.
I totally agree & praise the Lord. Imvho, Guiliani’s an opportunistic, self-interested sack of crap & has no more claim to national leadership than he has to ‘larger than life’ status.
when did we start caring about what Carville has to say about anything?
Huh. Must’ve missed that memo…
As a long-time John Edwards fan, James Carville has just given me tremendous hope. Because that idiot has been wrong about just about everything, for just about forever.
By saying Senator Edwards doesn’t have a chance, he’s pretty much sealed the deal that he is the front-runner.
Thank you Monty Carville.
I find it curious that he didn’t mention Jeb on the Repub side. Does anyone really believe Poppy is ready to give up the throne and the money making machine that goes along with it? jeb’s term is up and he will be more than ready to advance. As Arthur says, “Bet on It”.
Let’s hope we don’t get fooled again. Again.
Feingold is out. Al Gore, while my fav, is likely out as others here have stated (and Gore has stated repeatedly himself). I don’t want Hillary to be the candidate. I don’t want any more DLC presidents that triangulate on everything and I certainly don’t want the queen mother of HMOs (Hillary) to be Prez.
I currently favor Clark more than any other possible, and/or perhaps Edwards. I’d like to see Clark run and select Kathleen Sebelius as his running mate. If Edwards was the guy then his running mate should be Clark or Sebelius as well.
I truly hope for a Guiliani-Newt-McCain Mutual Destruction primary. They are all unsuitable and the more damage they inflict on each other the larger the vote margin for the Dem.
The last “netroots” candidate to take the Presidency was Ike. Drafted, and approached to run by both parties, he came in late and still won at the convention. (He beat Taft in the Minnesota primary as a write-in). The story is worth reading.
I haven’t seen anyone even close to that level of bi-partisan support – yet.
Biden is in and Iowa Gov. Vilsack just threw his hat in the race.
and check this out: GOP rightwing nuts have found something they can use to slay Obama – his middle name.
I don’t think Hillary is a sure thing for either the nomination, or if she gets it, the White House. She’d be a real millstone around the party’s neck in the 08 campaign.
Don’t know much about Vilsack, but a Midwestern farmboy image could go a long way. Don’t count him out yet. (I see his campaign site video requires Flash8, freezing out voters using older versions of Windows or Mac or current versions of other systems–not a very savvy start.)
I sense a media pushback against Edwards, who could take it all if he can get his populist style communicated. At this point I trust him on the issue more than the rest. But I still think somebody could come out of “nowhere” — ie the real world where there are no martinis for pundits — and blow everybody else away. Early days yet. And Carville is not worth thinking about or listening to. Could we embargo his name on this site?
My bet?
Gingrich vs. Clinton.
Remember…you read it first here.
Clinton wins in a in a close election.
Why Clinton?
Because she has it locked up.
Probably with Obama as VP.
Why Obama?
She won’t LOSE any votes that she wouldn’t have lost anyway, and she will gain a HUGE minority and youth vote.
Hillary’s momma didn’t raise no dummies.
Watch.
And learn.
Big league politics.
Young voters and minorities…two groups that tend to not show up in great numbers unless really interested.
Add the female vote…Hillary’s da man.
Or woman.
Whatever.
Gingrich?
Giuliani has zero class. He’s ALREADY Keriked out of contention, but he is too stupid and too egocentric to realize it. He will wage a NASTY primary campaign…he’s Nixon without the effective slyness…and McCain will respond in kind.
Only McCain is old. And sick. Bet on it. And he will fuck up.
They will cancel each other out and leave Newt the Slick still standing.
Bet on THAT, too.
VP?
Baby Bush, of course. Newt will make THAT deal in a heartbeat. (Newts have very quick heartbeats, y’know. Them as has hearts, of course…)
By the way…did you know that newts have extremely poisonous body secretions?
Yup.
Especially the orange-bellied, rough-skinned ones. No WONDER Gingrich never show up topless or without makeup.
Every known mammal spits them out instantly — except men in bars who have been drinking heavily. A 29-year-old from Oregon went into a bar July 9, 1979, and, on a bet, swallowed a rough-skinned newt. He was dead before the day was out.
No known antidote exists for a newt’s poison, packed by both juveniles and adults in glands in their skin, and even their eggs.
The poison is tetrodotoxin, or TTX, and is found in Japanese puffer fish and some species of South American frogs.
I can see it now.
Newt, Giuliani and McCain show up for their first debate. They all shake hands, and within minutes Giuliani and McCain are making even less sense than they usually do while Newt speaks perfectly well, forked tongue and all.
Meanwhile, Hillary’s got it all figured out and later wears so MUCH makeup that even Newt’s poison doesn’t work.
Yup,
Them reptilians sho’ do got some sense of humor, don’t they, Zeke!!!???
Yup.
I’m ‘a think like I’m ‘a gonna to die laughing!!!
Later…
AG
After her bang-up job this year, I think it’d be terrific to run Liddy Dole on the GOP ticket! I certainly know none of us would want to see that happen.
James Carville, one of politics’ most successful consultants and one of Bill Clinton’s best friends, pronounced the 2006 election “pretty predictable.”
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Well, hell. I hereby pronounce the 2004 election pretty predictable too. Top that one! Go ahead, ask me anything about it. Long as I’ve got access to Google, I’ll predict away … be dead solid perfect, too, very likely.
Because I’m an Expert Predictorater.
(This political punditry stuff is hard, hard work. Where’s my million-dollar contract?)
The last time the Republicans fielded a Presidential slate that did not include a Bush or a Dole was the Nixon-Agnew ticket of 1972.
Which is exactly what makes me think of this.
Pax
My own ‘dark horse’ is Wes Clark. As RBA stated, Eisenhower was in a similar circumstance as we have now. I see Bush dragging this Iraq thing out to 2008, and by then the people will be looking for that guy with some real accomplishments under his belt, not a congressional voting record. And he has a style that will have a real grassroots buildup in the coming year. Of course, he has to agree to run, but that should be soon. My check is waiting.