I watched Henry Waxman’s hearings today on Pat Tillman and Jessica Lynch and, frankly, I have been too pissed off to write about it. There were many, many outrages. But nothing was more nauseating than Pat Tillman’s mother recounting how Lt. Col. Ralph Kauzlarich dismissed her concerns because she isn’t a Christian. Atrios dug up the link to the ESPN article. I am going to excerpt it below the fold. It’s an outrage.
In his interview with ESPN.com, Kauzlarich also said he was not driven to identify Tillman’s killer.
“You know what? I don’t think it really matters,” Kauzlarich said. “And the reason I say that — you got to look at the overall situation here that these guys were fighting in. And somebody hit him. So would you hold that guy [who] hit him responsible for hitting him, when everybody was shooting in that direction, given the situation? We’ll see how the [Defense Department Inspector General’s] investigation comes out. But I had no issue on not finding a specific person responsible for doing it.”
Kauzlarich said he is confident the current probe will not result in criminal charges against the shooter or shooters. He said investigators would not still be examining the incident at all if it were not for Tillman’s NFL celebrity — he walked away from a multimillion-dollar contract with the Arizona Cardinals when he enlisted — and the pressure brought to bear by Tillman’s family on a number of Washington politicos.
“His parents continue to ask for it to be looked at,” Kauzlarich said. “And that is really their prerogative. And if they have the right backing, the right powerful people in our government to continue to let it happen, then that is the case.
“But there [have] been numerous unfortunate cases of fratricide, and the parents have basically said, ‘OK, it was an unfortunate accident.’ And they let it go. So this is — I don’t know, these people have a hard time letting it go. It may be because of their religious beliefs.”
In a transcript of his interview with Brig. Gen. Gary Jones during a November 2004 investigation, Kauzlarich said he’d learned Kevin Tillman, Pat’s brother and fellow Army Ranger who was a part of the battle the night Pat Tillman died, objected to the presence of a chaplain and the saying of prayers during a repatriation ceremony in Germany before his brother’s body was returned to the United States.
Kauzlarich, now a battalion commanding officer at Fort Riley in Kansas, further suggested the Tillman family’s unhappiness with the findings of past investigations might be because of the absence of a Christian faith in their lives.
In an interview with ESPN.com, Kauzlarich said: “When you die, I mean, there is supposedly a better life, right? Well, if you are an atheist and you don’t believe in anything, if you die, what is there to go to? Nothing. You are worm dirt. So for their son to die for nothing, and now he is no more — that is pretty hard to get your head around that. So I don’t know how an atheist thinks. I can only imagine that that would be pretty tough.”
Asked by ESPN.com whether the Tillmans’ religious beliefs are a factor in the ongoing investigation, Kauzlarich said, “I think so. There is not a whole lot of trust in the system or faith in the system [by the Tillmans]. So that is my personal opinion, knowing what I know.”
I’m hoping that The Gavel will have the YouTube of Mrs. Tillman’s comments soon.
I listened to Kevin Tillman’s comments and they broke my heart.
Kauzlarich should be dishonorably discharged. Oh wait, in this administration dishonor is rewarded.
Now if you folks have ever read any of the slop that I have posted you know that I am not the greatest writer but do express emotions!
Well, I gotta tell ya-all- I am speechless. What I listened to via c-span radio- the Tillman horror, was the most painfull, gut wrenching experience I may ever have had in my entire life! (And I ain’t a spring chicken!)
If the presented facts are true, then the leadership of the USA (including all of the military leadership!) are war criminals and should be charged, convicted and punished in the most horrible public manner possible!
I can’t wait to see what Al-Jazeera does with this. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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“When you die, I mean, there is supposedly a better life, right? Well, if you are an atheist and you don’t believe in anything, if you die, what is there to go to? Nothing. You are worm dirt. …”
If there is anything in the afterlife, it exists independent of what anyone believes. The statement above tends to indicate that his belief is not firm, or at best conditional. Swallow the kool-aid and the riches of the afterlife will be showered upon you. But for an atheist, nothing but worm dirt. Apparently not all of god’s children qualify for entry.
to Christians their own religion.
Clueless, self-centered morons!
Jesus had a few choice words for people like these.
Seriously, how could there ever have been any doubt — after all this time and all this info — that these are war criminals?
I cried along with Kevin Tillman’s testimony. It was inspirational after spending a day watching Abu Gonzales testify.
What a pleasure to finally get to see someone tell the truth in front of Congress.
BooMan, I am totally with you re: anger over this. When my own temperature drops down to 211.7 degrees, I am going to open up on this one.
Hard. I’ll have something up within 24 hours.
I have been moderate and diplomatic for too damn long on theocracy creep. Upon me shame.
I just watched Kevin Tillman’s testimony at atrios, and heard excerpts of Jessica Lynch’s testimony on the radio.
The mind reels at the shameless criminality of the Bush Administration. Awful, horrible people.
Want to bawl your eyes out? Read Gary Smith’s piece on Pat Tillman in Sports Illustrated:
That’s funny, but the value I place on human life is precisely because I don’t believe in an afterlife. It seems to me that some religious people find it much easier to kill because they believe in some savage superstition that suggests some magic fairy will make it all right in the end.
It also seems that some religious people place a lower value on the lives of people who don’t suffer from the same delusions they do. And I believe, in that case, “delusion” is the correct word.
Murder is a more serious crime if there is no afterlife.
that IS why they can’t just hum a happy tune their boy is dead while a christian, of the wrong mind set, might.
it read sympatheticly to me.