Informants Scrutinized in Fort Dix Case
Jesus!!!
Even the AP is seeing through this shit.
BushCo must REALLY be in trouble.
Read on for more.
May 10 04:55 PM US/Eastern
By GEOFF MULVIHILL
Associated Press Writer
CHERRY HILL, N.J. (AP) – He railed against the United States, helped scout out military installations for attack, offered to introduce his comrades to an arms dealer, and gave them a list of weapons he could procure, including machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades.
These were not the actions of a terrorist, but of a paid FBI informant who helped bring down an alleged plot by six Muslim men to massacre U.S. soldiers at New Jersey’s Fort Dix.
And those actions have raised questions of whether the government crossed the line and pushed the six men down a path they would not have otherwise followed.
It is an argument–entrapment–that has been made in other terrorism cases, and one that has failed miserably in this post-Sept. 11 era.
One defense attorney on the case, Troy Archie, said no decision has been made on whether to argue entrapment, but based on the FBI’s own account, “the guys sort of led them on.”
Rocco Cipparone, a lawyer for another one of the defendants, said he will take a hard look at “the role of paid informants and how aggressive they were in potentially prodding or moving things along.”
The Fort Dix Six were arrested earlier this week after a 15-month FBI investigation that relied heavily on two paid informants who secretly recorded meetings and telephone conversations in which the suspects talked of killing “in the name of Allah.”
Fifteen months of bullshit.
No more need be said.
Except how lame these “terrorists” really were.
Also, one of the men, Tatar, called a Philadelphia police officer in November, saying that he had been approached by someone who was pressuring him to obtain a map of Fort Dix, and that he feared the incident was terrorist-related, according to court documents.
“It could be a defense, that he felt he was being pressured to do things and actually called law enforcement to report it,” Sohail Mohammed, a lawyer and Muslim community leader in New Jersey who is not involved in the case.
Lame.
If this is the level of fighter that is running the US Armed Forces out of the Middle East with its tail between its legs, then what does that say about the US Army?
Don’t answer.
In fact, don’t ask.
Bet on it, the level is much higher…
And what is the definition of “entrapment”?
“If the source talks them into committing a crime, that is entrapment,” said retired FBI agent Craig Dotlo, a 32-year veteran. But “if they are predisposed to commit a crime, and you give them the opportunity, that’s fine.”
Pretty fine line, there.
Entrapment also failed as a defense in the case of Shahwar Matin Siraj, who was convicted in New York City of plotting to blow up the Herald Square subway station in 2003. Authorities had recruited an Egyptian man as an informant.
Siraj’s lawyer, Martin R. Stolar, argued at trial that Siraj had no interest in violence until the informant showed him photos of prisoners being abused at Abu Ghraib and told him it was his duty as a Muslim to retaliate. Siraj was found guiity and sentenced to 30 years.
“The government often overreaches in its zeal to give itself a pat on the back,” Stolar said. “In my case, my position was that they created the crime in order to solve the crime so that they could then claim a victory in the war on terror.”
Yup.
Listen. Folks.
I could go out today in the Bronx and create hundreds of criminal cases among lamebrains hanging out at bars across the borough. No problem. All I would need is a good backup so’s if I talked to the wrong people…semi-wiseguys, say, who know a setup when they see one…they would not take me out back and beat the living crap out of me.
Or worse.
Not terrorist crimes…but crimes nonetheless. Crimes that they had never even thought of, if the price was right.
And if I was the right racial and cultural mix, I could do the same in terrorist cases.
The IQ level of the average pizza delivery man is really not very high, folks.
And the people who are fighting us for real…bin Laden etc…are NOT pizza delivery men.
Bet on it.
“I’m sure they were,” he said. “The arrests were made as they were on their way to purchase the weapons, or at least some of the weapons. They had seemed to plan it out very, very well.”
Here is the level of Homeboy Security people in a nutshell.
These fools took their tapes to a chain store to be converted to DVD.
They spent 15 months being run by informants.
One of them actually called the cops to complain about “being pressured to do things.”
And this BushBoy dork so-called “security” academic says…with a straight face (Probably so dumb that he believes it himself.)… “They had seemed to plan it out very, very well.”
Right.
The Six Stooges Meet the Keystone Kops.
Now playing in a theater near you.
In your living room, actually.
AND BILLED AS A DRAMA!!!
Unbelievable.
Literally.
I cannot believe that we are that stupid.
Starry-eyed optimist that I am.
But I’m learning…
I am learning.
Later…
AG
All reactions apropos.
And appreciated as well.
AG
It gets pretty boring when you have to stay in the house instead of playing cops and robbers with the guys.
Who doesn’t try to inject a little excitement in their job?
I’m grateful for the entrapment gameplaying. Focusing on being big men distracts them from shooting somebody.
It does?
I hadn’t noticed.
AG
the only stooges here are the lemmings that think this is a big feather in hst’s cap….here’s a feather for BushCo™
if you don’t know what it means, look it up
chimpy’s in deep shit…needs a hit, back to the old habits.
junkies never learn, they die lying, to themselves and everybody around them…life in a bubble/needle….whatever it takes.
when this shit starts coming down from colon bowel’s CoS….seriously tied into poppy’s game….aka carlyle group….most recently heard from in the guise of the Baker Hamilton Commission…either colon’s pissed that tenet stole his thunder, or daddy’s got dimson out of jail once to often.
looks like the money men have decided that the chimp’s expendable…it’s gotten way too expensive…and this isn’t going to save his sorry ass.
what a ya know…the deciderer just issued an “executive order”
surprised?
doesn’t like the way the game’s being played, so he’s changing the rules again:
who ya gonna call…is a visa required?
lTMF’sA
MOST frightening.
Here it comes.
AG
but that piece can be read as follows:
I’m sure he had great sources for the weapons he promised them.