Glenn Greenwald has a new book coming out. It’s about George W. Bush’s Manichean moralism. Greenwald explains here and Salon is running an excerpt from the book here.
I have a quibble with this use of the term ‘Manichean’. Greenwald is using it to designate a dualistic world-view that breaks things down into ‘good’ and ‘evil’. There is no question that Bush has framed the Global War on Terror in this binary way. But a rudimentary look at Manichean theology will show you that the prophet Mani did not see things Bush’s way. The uniqueness of Mani’s teaching was that he solved the ‘problem of evil’ that plagues the Abrahamic religions. If God is good and God is omnipotent and God is omniscient, then why do horrible things happen? Why does evil exist? For Mani, the answer was that God is not omnipotent. He has an equally powerful rival.
Mani was considered a heretic by the early Christian church and it’s easy to see why. But I don’t want to get bogged down in a theological discussion. Suffice to say, George W. Bush is not a Manichean. He expresses belief in a version of the Christian God. This God is on America’s side and, if truth be told, must be considered a fairly solid Republican and a neo-conservative. But there is no equal power in the universe to Bush’s God. He doesn’t believe, for example, that Allah is real and is waging a cosmic battle against Yahweh. Whether he thinks Satan exists and has an equal footing with God, I don’t really know. The possibility that Satan might be deceiving Bush seems to have escaped his notice.
Greenwald is using ‘Manichean’ in a more conventional sense, to mean a simplistic black and white worldview. Conservatives like to think in these terms. In the post-war period, conservatives rallied around the flag of anti-communism, refusing to see any nuance or differences in communism as practiced by Stalin, Tito, Mao, Castro or anyone else. They refused to acknowledge rivalries and tensions between communist states. They were uninterested in doctrinal differences between communist thinkers. They broke down world affairs into a communist bloc and a free bloc and imagined that the communists were in league with each other and bent on world conquest.
Islamic terrorism has offered them a much needed replacement. You will notice a continual indifference to rivalries among Islamic states and doctrinal differences within Islam. You will hear them repeat things like this, from Fred Thompson:
We understand that the Western world is in an international struggle with jihadists who see this struggle as part of a conflict that has gone on for centuries, and who won’t give up until Western countries are brought to their knees.
Could it be any more transparent? Replace the word ‘jihadists’ with ‘godless communists’ and drop the part about ‘centuries’ and you have a phrase repeated a billion times during the Cold War.
In an all-out war for survival against an evil adversary, almost any act can be justified. And that is the subject of Greenwald’s book.
Greenwald thinks it is ultimately irrelevant whether or not George W. Bush actually believes his own rhetoric. Is Bush actually a evangelical Christian that is convinced he’s on a mission from God? For Greenwald, it doesn’t matter.
I think it does matter, but I understand his argument.
Ultimately, whether moralistic dualism is in fact what motivates the president or whether he manipulatively adopts its rhetoric to justify his actions has no bearing on the need to examine and, where necessary, refute the framework he (and his political allies) invoke in order to persuade America of the rightness of their actions.
Greenwald is frustrated that a large percentage of the early feedback on his book is negative. People are refuting the premise that the President and his neo-conservative allies are religious at all. And Greenwald well knows the Straussian cynicism that animates thinkers like William Kristol, Richard Perle, and Paul Wolfowitz. They are not religious people…they use religion to manufacture consent for their policies.
Greenwald sputters in response:
The commenters argue, in essence, that Bush’s behavior is exceedingly simple to explain. He is, they asset, simply Evil, and is only motivated by a one-dimension desire for profit and power. Hence, there is no need to say anything about Bush other than: “He is evil and wants money.” That simple, unifying “theory” explains everything.
No, that theory doesn’t explain everything. They want more than money. They want power as well. These are the exact same people that thought up Team B in the 1970’s to hype the threat of communism and justify increased defense spending. The pattern is so well established that there really shouldn’t be any dispute about the cynicism of their dualism.
Greenwald says that he can’t know what is in someone else’s mind so he can’t say whether Bush is an authentic evangelical Christian with a dualistic worldview. I suppose that’s true, but we can make an informed guess. I say he is a fraud. And if he is not a fraud, then he has certainly been duped by more clever advisers.
No matter how hard the neo-conservatives try, terrorism will never rise to the threat level of a nuclear armed Soviet Union. But they will continue to make the effort because they derive power from it and they make profits from it. Religion has nothing to do with it.
But this does not make Greenwald’s work worthless. The question that needs answering is how do we reduce the effectiveness of this dualism as a driver of foreign policy and as an electoral strategy? Greenwald has some ideas on that, and I look forward to reading them.
I enjoyed the excerpt of Greenwald’s upcoming book and equally enjoyed your insight on it.
I’ll look forward to the whole book.
Thanks for the curve ball, it led me to a fresh perspective.
Great site Sawdust is. Wouldn’t let me sign on with my login/password, but I’ll add it to my dailies.
Peter Singer went down this road in 2004 with his insightful book “The President of Good and Evil”.
The problem is that Life is not Yin and Yang. Einstein was wrong. For every action, there is more than one reaction. Ask a hundred people, get a hundred different perspectives. Does a butterfly’s wings….
How do you solve a problem with a myriad of responses/solutions? First, stop digging.
Get the Hell out, regroup, and rebuild, whatever. Just stop doing what you are doing. It isn’t working. It will never work.
There have been only two wars in American History that were somewhat agreed upon to be correct in a perverse sort of way, and each one had its caveats, and interpretations; The Revolution against the first King George, and America’s participation in WW11. After them, and in between, every war has been based on false premises, political posturing, and misinformation. When will we ever learn? When will we ever learn? (Speaking of Pete Seeger)
If Greenwald erred, it was in imagining that Bush and his cronies hold a philosophy. Bush is too stupid and unthinking to be guided by any set of ideas, including religious ones. Some of his circle are versed in the pseudophilosophy called Economics, but show no evidence of any thought about their beliefs except as strategic weapons. Bush may be the extreme example of literal thoughtlessness, but the reality is that thought is no longer an asset in American political strategy. Reagan didn’t need any and neither did daddy Bush. Lieberman does just fine without any, and so did campaigner Kerry. Clinton dipped mighty shallowly into that well, too, though he had the capacity to drink deeply.
It doesn’t matter whether Bush or anyone else is a Christian, a “conservative”, a Manichean or anything else. What matters is the quality of his thought, or at least his grasp of the thought of people who know how. In the absence of such abilities, the only other possibility is, finally, “It’s all about me.” Which is, even more than money, the root of all evil. Which may be why there are so many apocalyptic horror movies about small, absolutely evil, children.
Wow, BooMan, you’ve outdone yourself today. It happens I’ve just come over here from Salon.com and reading Greenwald’s column on “what motivates” W.
You have stated — excellently! — exactly my thoughts as I read there.
Outstanding. I need to spend more time here. 🙂
I read Greenwalds column and look forward to reading his book to see what his ideas are…
Although ultimately it doesn’t matter why Bush does what he does or why the neo’s do what they do. It only matters they are doing it and have to be stopped.
The neo’s motivations are long known and obvious. Bush doesn’t really share their particular motivations. I think Bush is best described as my sister in law who is a psychiatrist and who treats real addicts and real delusionals put it a long time ago…from drunk crutch to God crutch to God’s governing crutch…to the now final …”history will vindicate me” crutch.
Chalk it up to his boyhood, his family, his need to first escape the question of what he himself is about and then seizing on personal religion as the answer and once in over his head, using God as his governing vision so he will have no questions for himself, no conflicts, no painful thinking to do. All easy peasy and simple.
So many of his followers or followers of his simplistic vision are just like him, looking to define their fustrated,difficult or less than satisfying lives by something so big like God, that doesn’t have to explained and can’t be questioned and can be interpreted in any way they choose to suit their personal needs….I don’t see how you can find anything to replace all the benefits of God as a personal buffet who will never appear in person to tell your choice isn’t on his menu, and since He can’t be questioned neither can I mentality.
Thinking about it gives me a headache. I am seriously begining to think I need to live in a different country.
This may not be centrally responsive to your diary here, but I think Bush is like many other somewhat inarticulate, highly charged emotionally, and not particularly bright or patient people who use religion as an anger management system, and then get sucked into the sort of simplistic thinking and dogma that accompanies it in a way that alows them to subsequently use the religious framework to pretty much justify anything and everything they themselves might want to do.
For Bush, again, like many others with serious cognitive and emotional challenges, religion as anger management cannot be effective for long unless the person totally submits to it’s arbitrary authority, and angry, petulant narcissists like Bush are incapable of such emotional, let alone spiritual, surrender.
That Bush is a fraud is incontrovertible as far as I’m concerned. And even if he does believe this nonsense he spouts, even if he believes in the grandeur he imagines about himself, these beliefs are beside the point if for no other reason than that Bush’s ability to believe is based solely on self delusion and stubbornness and ignorance. And his actions are born of this same intransigence so his ability to respond to reality is impaired anyway. (400,000 or so blastocysts are slated for destruction by fertility clinics and that’s OK but using any of them for stem cell research is not OK. Bush can’t even process such simple info, let alone form a rational belief around it; he’s immune to the contradictions). If Glenn Greenwald is making the case that whether Bush is a believer in his own nonsense or not that it doesn’t matter, I suspect this is the core of it. Bush will do whatever he wants as long as he can get away with it, whether it makes any sense or conforms to his stated beliefs or not.
See, I don’t think Bush/Rove give a fuck one way or the other about blastocysts. But it is very important to them that people think they care. Like this guy.
I agree with you. In fact I don’t think either Bush or Rove, (or the sociopathic neocons), give a fuck about anyone at all really, except for themselves.
I do think Rove understands it’s important for people to believe Bush cares about this stuff, but I don’t think it’s important to Bush himself whether people believe he cares or not, (I don’t even think Bush realizes WHY it WOULD be important), because, like a peetulant child with way too much power, he’s going to do whatever he wants to do regardless.
I don’t really see Bush as stupid. I think he is quite intelligent and very savvy.
John Kerry didn’t convince anyone he was a hunter by going hunting during the campaign. It was too late. Kerry should have started shooting birds 2-3 years earlier. Then people would believe it.
Bush became a rancher two years before he wanted to run for Prez. The guy is afraid of horses but now he’s a rancher. When he wanted to run for Governor he suddenly found God. A Texas version of God, no less. This guy plans ahead. He’s not stupid. He’s operating on a deep level. And he knows what Rove is up to. He understands the image game.
Fucker could probably discuss Proust if he wanted to. But there are no votes in that.
On the other hand, he definitely has some emotional problems and he things in terms of resolve and will power, as though he was some kind Nietzsche apostle, or thought Hitler has a good model.
I really don’t see any indications that Bush himself has the cognitive depth or dexterity to develop his own image along the lines you suggest. I attribute the image as the creation of his handlers of the folks around him who chose him to be their candidate precisely because of his relatively empty head and the fact that, like a typical ‘Village Idiot’, he would come across as plain-spoken and non-threatening intellectually, a distinct advantage when seeking the ignorati vote.
No, I truly believe Bush is the quintessential Village Idiot, one who’s been thoroughly weaponized by those who used him as their vehicle for hijacking the government and destroying Democracy. I don’t think he’s possessed of any real native intelligence at all
I disagree.
You have to remember that Bush is playing a role. You occasionally get a real glimpse of him when he flies off the handle on someone. But he’s not a simple down-home folksy rancher. He went to New England prep schools and Yale and Harvard. He may have developed a genuine anti-elitism while he was there, in the sense that he couldn’t really compete on an intellectual level with his peers. But, remember, he didn’t need to just compete, his father set such a high bar, in school, in the war, in athletics, in business, and in government, that Bush preferred just not to try.
It was probably easier for him to denigrate his peers as effeminate dorks than to accept they were more talented. But Bush is not fool and he is no dummy. It takes a lot of skill and energy to play a role for as long as he has done it. And the role bears little relationship to the real Bush. So it takes even more skill to keep from slipping.
I think he has plenty native intelligence. His problem is that his policies suck and he doesn’t like to admit mistakes or empower his political rivals.
When Bush managed to slip the tight leash he’s kept on by his controllers, he nominated Harriet Miers for the Supreme court. That is, I’d wager, an example of the real Bush in action, an imbecile who has little grasp of even the most basic realities and who is pathologically unable to perform even the most basic critical thinking process.
See…even that conflicts with my view. Miers is no different from Rove and Gonzales and Karen Hughes. They are capos. Made men and women. Gangtas.
And he’ll put them anywhere he can. No lack of critical thinking involved.
But Miers nomination was quashed by the very people who run the Bush regime and thiir toadies in the media. If Bush possessed the savvy and the critical thinking skills you attribute to him he would have recognized how consuming would bge the “palace revolt” over this patently absurd choice for Supreme Court Judge. But Bush evinced no sign of any such awareness in the slightest.
Came over from Greenwald’s place.
I’m kind of with BooMan on this one. George Bush is not a stupid man, but he is ignorant and/or incurious. Those two qualities are not mutually exclusive, in fact, however, it is even more repugnant, since he chooses not learn, not that he is not incapable of doing so.
It is a blight on American society in general that we actually celebrate being down home and ignorant, as that’s the kind of person you’d have a beer with, and actually elect such a person as our leader.
While I understand Greenwald’s reasoning that Bush could not have given up alcohol without some kind of belief system, I feel that that belief system is more of a crutch than grounded in any kind of true Christian belief. His example of the African General who commits genocide in the name of the Lord is inapplicable, I think. There was a book called “Bush on the Couch” a couple of years ago, which I have always meant to read, but I would not be surprised if, based on what I have read already about Bush and his family, that this is an extremely dysfunctional human being.
The problem with Pentecostals in general is that they take the Bible and, especially, the Book of Revelation, literally, with its depictions of images of revenge, depictions of Satan. I am currently reading Chris Hedges’ book which does a nice job laying all of these issues out.
In short, I am saying that Bush gave up alcohol for Jesus, but he never cured the underlying psychological issues.
I certainly agree that Bush is ignorant across a broad spectrum, and that his ‘incuriosity” is of a scale that is quite debilitating as it affects someones ability to be an effective leader and decisionmaker.
But while I may agree that Bush is self-aware to a certain extent about his own hypocrisy, this awareness he has only extends into shallows of his psyche. At the deep end of the pool, he demonstrates an almost complete cluelessness as to the dissonance, the contradictory rift between his professed beliefs and principles and his actions. (He seems to think of himself as an avid supporter of human life, for instance, yet he displays no understanding of the inherent contradiction of his positions on abortion or stem cell research and his policies in Iraq that routinely result in the slaughter of innocent Iraqi civilians and children everyday.
Personally, I do not believe he’s capable of understanding these contradictions at that level, and this might be the area where you and BooMan are in disagreement with me.
Even a ‘village idiot’ can sometimes, wiilfully and with intent, develop a great facility for elicitng sympathy, and a skill at manipulating others to forgive him his trespasses, and I readily concede that Bush has shown he is effective in this way to a certain extent. But I personally don’t identify such cleverness, such intuitive manipulative skill, as the hallmark of intelligence or cognitive skill. And I don’t believe Bush even has the ability to understand the essential nature and dimensions of the very things he purports to believe in. He’s not alone in this sort of cognitive, denial-based pathology; virtually all simple-minded extremists share similar cognitive deficiencies. But Bush does exemplify the very essence of this sort of detachment from reality in ways pretty impossible to ignore. And so, his incuriosity, combined with stubborn denial and the lack of critical thinking skills; all of this together adds up to “stupid” in my book.
If you look carefully at the ideas of Norman Podheretz or William Kristol, you’ll find cognitive dissonance too. But it is only apparent dissonance, because they are actually quite aware that they are being dishonest. If they want war with Iran then they are willing to say and do things that are consistent with that goal but may not have any other internal consistency.
Bush can be simple. He can make a decision to invade Iraq based on his own desire for revenge and the wishes of his advisers, without even knowing the difference between a Sunni and Shiite.
But then he goes to make the case. And when he makes the case he resorts to a simple plan. Make it binary, make is basic, simplify it for the public, us v. them, freedom v. tyranny, life v. death. Repeat, repeat, repeat, never rinse.
This aspect is conscious. It’s about catapulting the propaganda.
But this is no different that his conscious effort to overcome his political inviability through a born-again conversion or to cast himself as a rancher. There is a unique ability to create a false reality and repeat it until even a skeptical press gives up on countering it.
He and Rove know what they are doing.
I agree with almost everything you say here in this last post BooMan, but i see a big difference between creatures like Kristol and Bush. I don’t dispute that Bush lies with impunity whenever he feels he needs to. Nor do I take issue with the obvious fact that the Kristol/Podhoretz/Cohen/Kagan cabal are totally aware of the nature their own lies. But I submit that where these insane Neocons are the architects of their own ideology, however irrational that dogma might be, I see Bush as someone programmed by others to behave as the intrepid yet dangerous fool that he comes across to so many of us as. In short, I don’t see his behavior as the result of his own machinations so much as I see it as a cleverly designed persona developed by others and inculcated into his relatively empty skull.
None of what I say here is designed to minimize the threat posed by Bush, or to minimize his culpability with respect to the ongoing catastrophes wrought by his presidency. He is an extremely dangerous creature that should be stopped. But it is his ignorance and stupidity and his petulant stubbornness and his lack of conscience that make him dangerous, not his intelligence or his savvy.