I am not without sympathy for Dennis Ross’ position on Iranian uranium enrichment. Ross makes many good points. But he’s not putting the focus in the correct place. For Ross, the issue isn’t whether or not Iran is working on a military nuclear program. The risk is still there from Iran mastering uranium enrichment for nuclear power plants.
Weaponizing is not the issue, developing fissionable materials is. Because compared with producing fissionable material, which makes up the core of nuclear bombs, weaponizing it is neither particularly difficult nor expensive.
In other words, the hard part of becoming a nuclear power is enriching uranium or separating out plutonium. And guess what? Iran is going full-speed ahead on both. With over 3,300 operating centrifuges for spinning uranium gases at its facility at Natanz (and more centrifuges on the way) and the building of a heavy water plant for plutonium separation at Arak, the Iranians will be able to master both by 2010 at the latest.
Moreover, Ross is concerned about the mere perception that Iran has a nuclear weapon capability. It’s informative to see why.
Perhaps that’s why, in 2005, former Iranian president Hashemi Rafsanjani told a visiting group of American experts, including George Perkovich of the Carnegie Endowment, that Iran had halted its nuclear weapons research. According to Perkovich, Rafsanjani said: “Look, as long as we can enrich uranium and master the fuel cycle, we don’t need anything else. Our neighbors will be able to draw the proper conclusions.”
Maybe, as Rafsanjani was suggesting, the Iranians will be satisfied only to foster the appearance of having nuclear weapons without actually producing them; for Rafsanjani, so long as Iran’s neighbors assume it has nuclear weapons, they’ll become responsive to Iran’s wishes. But can we count on Iran’s maintaining such a posture indefinitely? And even if we could, what would the Middle East look like if Iran gained far greater coercive leverage over all its neighbors? Wouldn’t oil production policies be used to separate us from our allies or further manipulate the world’s economy? Wouldn’t we face a region increasingly hostile to our interests? Wouldn’t we see the prospect of Arab-Israeli peace diminish as Iran worked to weaken, isolate, and demoralize the Jewish state? And to avoid being at the mercy of Iran, wouldn’t the Saudis decide to go nuclear–and wouldn’t that impel the Egyptians to do the same?
As reader dada points out, Iran is already using “oil production policies…to separate us from our allies or further manipulate the world’s economy.”
Iran signed a $2bn oil contract with Sinopec of China on Sunday, sending a signal to western companies that they might miss out on potentially lucrative contracts with one of the world’s biggest energy exporters if they continued to heed US-inspired sanctions against Tehran.
“If other countries who like to invest in oil and gas hesitate, they will lose opportunities,” said Gholam-Hossein Nozari, Iran’s oil minister.
And it’s beyond silly at this point to blame Iran for the fact that we “face a region increasingly hostile to our interests.” Our invasion of Iraq combined with our conflation of Islam with terrorism combined with our hands-off policy towards the Israel-Palestine question have created this hostile environment. A strong Iran is as likely to work in our favor as it is to further alienate us. Yes, there is a risk that Saudi Arabia and Egypt will pursue their own nuclear weapons capability in response to Iran…but they could just as easily align themselves more closely to the United States and, yes, even Israel.
Ross is correct to note:
One can criticize the intelligence community for framing the NIE around the wrong issue, but the intelligence community was not responsible for the public roll-out of its estimate. President Bush and those around him made the decision to publicize it–after all, NIEs are not typically publicized. No doubt, the president and his advisors understood that once the NIE was briefed to the congressional oversight committees on the Hill that its findings would leak, and they wanted to get out in front of the leaks.
Fair enough. Unfortunately, their presentation was not only poor in terms of framing, but also because it blindsided our allies. The British, French, and Germans have led the diplomatic efforts at the U.N. and in the E.U. on Iran; it was important for them not to be exposed on this issue since each country’s population holds such grave doubts about anything the Bush Administration portrays as threat. How could we not go to them in advance of the release of the NIE, explain the key judgments, and work out a common public approach?
Here’s what Ross is missing. There has been report after report about Dick Cheney and the neo-conservatives’ determination not to leave office without having attacked Iran. If the Intelligence Community judged that such an attack would be catastrophic to our national interests and their assessments were ignored and suppressed, it makes sense that their judgments would eventually leak. Patriotism demands it.
Ross says:
The National Intelligence Estimate on Iran presents an interesting paradox: Though almost certainly the product of rigorous assessment and questioning, it may actually leave us less secure over time.
If it prevented an ill-advised attack on Iran, it could not have done more to make us secure. It’d be nice if the IC could create an NIE that didn’t leak. It wasn’t really in our interests to tell the world (and Iran) what we knew about their nuclear program. It only became necessary because of the recklessness and radicalism of the administration. Policy makers, including Congress, had to know the truth. And given the deceit perpetrated by the administration, the public needed to know, as well.
If you want to point fingers, point them at the lunatics, not the patriots that may have saved our country from disaster.
Even so, Ross and the rest of the anti-Iran hawks have to wrap their minds around a simple fact. Iran is within their rights to enrich uranium for nuclear power plants. If we don’t want them to do that we have to convince them it isn’t worth their while. Threatening them with attack is not a good way to convince them they don’t need a deterrent. We can’t just slap sanctions on people for any old reason, much less launch military strikes.
And while we’re on the subject, it’d be nice if just once in a while we could discuss what our presence in the Middle East is all about…especially from a neo-conservative perspective. America never signed up for this.
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Did a diary over at Big Orange (sorry about the Big reference) some time ago called, Dennis Ross: still shilling for the Israeli right wing.
Dennis Ross is a Likudnik working for an AIPAC subsidiary, who has Bill Clinton living in his closet, his greatest asset. Dennis tells Bill what AIPAC wants, and the money keeps pouring in from all of those PACs that AIPAC controls, and it all happens without having to get laid in the Lincoln bedroom.
Hillary is now the focus of this lucrative source of campaign financing, which is only one reason why she must be stopped. There is Iraq, the Kyl-Lieberman vote, Neocon leanings, corporate medical care proposals, and no talk at all about the poor in this country, or education, and a lot of other things. Snob school women are only concerned about career, and if Hillary were to be elected, it would merely constitute a victory for careerism.
I think you are just trying to annoy me today.
What the hell does Hillary’s education have to do with anything?
And, if you haven’t noticed, the entire point of my diary is that the question of Iranian enrichment involves interests that far transcend the narrow focus of AIPAC. Read the last link in the diary.
Slightly off topic, but have you read Cohen’s book? It looks interesting.
Also of note: That article (and book) is by Elliot D. Cohen, not to be confused with Eliot A. Cohen the hardcore neocon. I was confused at first.
“What the hell does Hillary’s education have to do with anything?”
Ever date a snob school debutante? Don’t answer that. Some responses just are not going to relate to the point of an essay. Granted these comments tend to be irrelevant, but I still believe that make a point in their own right. Also I think you have to understand that some in the community think impulsively, meaning they respond to their own associations.
Thanks for the diary, Booman — in both colors.
(Posted this comment on DKos, but it seems pretty dead there, so I thought it might be worthwhile posting it here as well.)
Dennis Ross sez:
Perhaps he should mention that Iran has explicitly supported the Middle East being made a nuclear weapons-free zone (a proposal rejected by Israel and blocked by the U.S.), and that the U.S. has been virtually alone in blocking a FissBan treaty that would address precisely the issue Ross raises. Iran has supported that treaty.
As it is legally entitled to do. The problem is that Ross’ objective seems to be: how do we maintain the current nuclear apartheid indefinitely? The concept that perhaps we have no right to arbitrarily decree who is and is not permitted to enrich uranium or develop nuclear weapons, based on our narrow perceived self-interest, doesn’t seem to cross his mind.
By the way, it’s interesting to note that Egypt today refused to sign the Additional Protocol to the NPT, on the grounds that Israel has not even signed the NPT. This (together with uranium enrichment) is the only thing Iran was condemned for in the latest IAEA report – presumably, then, we are about to see Bush threaten “world war three” if Musharraf continues his dastardly ways. Or not…
Finally, when you write:
I’d add that, quite apart from any practical considerations, it is also a violation of the UN Charter and thus a crime.
Ta for the diary!
One of our biggest creditors seems to be getting fed up with our constant hectoring.
“BEIJING, Dec 11 (Reuters) – China swiped aside U.S. complaints about a major oil deal with Iran on Tuesday, saying the agreement was no other government’s business.”
http://uk.reuters.com/article/oilRpt/idUKPEK11077920071211
I had to (shudder) go to the original article, to make sure this wasn’t quoted out of context.
Dennis Ross is an ignorant moron.
Oh, Dennis? A word in your shell-like ear:
If you DON’T FUCKING KNOW THE NUCLEAR PHYSICS then just SHUT THE FUCK UP!
Sheesh. Heavy water plants are used to separate heavy water, which amazingly enough, does not contain plutonium. Wow.
And heavy-water is only useful for getting a reactor going; unlike a uranium enrichment plant, which is dual-use (but not without a huge plant; go visit Oak Ridge sometime and see)
Any reactor that Iran starts up will be under IAEA monitoring. Just like the research reactor that they’ve had for DECADES, because it was given to them by the USA.
Oh, and that research reactor is fuelled with highly-enriched uranium. Bomb grade? Not quite, but a lot closer than what they’re doing now. Yet the IAEA seals are still on, imagine that.
In a political and military sense Iran may want to keep the world guess about their nuclear program, but technically, the picture is pretty consistent as a program for just nuclear power.
Absolutely.Ignorant morons like Dennis Ross, who also happen to be Israeli Fifth Columnists take alll kinds of liberties with science and create havoc in the minds of people.
Deliberately so,in my opinion.The idea of saying I don’t know diidly squat about Nuclear Physics never occurs to these assholes.
China is right. The US newsmedia including wbesites such as this assume that Urainum enrichment is a white man’s prerogative.As proof, I offer whatb happened when China, India and Pakistan went nuclear .It was as though these brown skinned people had no right to understand the nuclear fission/fusion processes.
Now that we have progressed beyond that white Man’s Burden themes, let us hope that then enrichment of Uranium by Iran, coming as it does nearly three decades after Israel’s own is not significantly different from anyone else’s .What it has done, though, is break the monolpoloy of the White Man on Nuclear Secrets.
Dennis Ross is upset because he can no longer deal from a position of strength against the dark skinned furriners.The options are narrowing for the privileged white men in Washington and Tel Aviv and they don’t like it one bit.