[Crossposted from my Real History Blog]
Okay. I am SO DONE with the Clintons. I was no fan of theirs during their administration. And Hillary Clinton has run one of the most negative campaigns in modern history against Barack Obama, who, by contrast, has managed to stay, rather miraculously, above the fray.
I’ve watched Hillary diss all caucus goers as “activists”, claiming HER supporters couldn’t get there because they work, implying dishonestly that those who did go weren’t employed. I’ve watched her say that any state she lost was unimportant in the overall scheme of things, whereas states she won were “the most important.”
It’s been disgusting to me personally to have her carrying any banner for the Democratic party, of which I’ve been a proud member all my life, because I feel she undermines our values. She complains she’s gotten unfair treatment because she’s a woman. But Obama never complained he got unfair treatment because he was black. McCain doesn’t complain about getting unfair treatment because he’s old. Everyone gets unfair treatment at times. To label it misogyny is bizarre, untrue, and demeaning to all the women who have spent lifetimes fighting for equal rights. You can’t ask to be President of the United States and then whine about how unfairly you’re treated. All people running for President are going to be treated unfairly. As she says herself, if you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
When she and her husband tried to paint Obama as unelectable because he was black (and don’t even try to argue in their defense – that’s EXACTLY what they’ve been doing) they are basically speaking heresy against core Democratic values.
I’m one of the few Democrats I know who does not look back fondly on the Clinton years. I have to go back to Jimmy Carter to find a president I was at least satisfied with. I watched in shock as the Clintons sold out our economy, our jobs, and our manufacturing base with their unqualified support for NAFTA. I cheered Dick Gephart’s valiant effort to defeat his own party’s president on this.
I watched as Hillary Clinton was handed the health care issue, with the full power of the presidency behind her. She couldn’t get it done. She didn’t forge the necessary coalitions, and when she did compromise, it was in all the wrong places, so that by the time she brought forward a bill, there was little left worth supporting.
The best part about this campaign is that now many Democrats are finally seeing the Bill and Hillary Clinton that the right wing has hated for so long. And perhaps that common ground will help us forge some new bridges in the fall. The problems we face in this country – reclaiming our vote, opening up government, turning the Titanic around re global warming, and finding a new energy future are too big to leave to partisan concerns. I’m looking forward to hearing new voices rise in the Republican party, as the neocon philosophy slowly recedes from the national conversation, having utterly failed us for the past eight years.
Today was the final straw for me. For her to bring up the assassination of Robert Kennedy as a reason for staying in the race was the lowest blow yet, even from a Scorpio such as herself. She was trying to make the point about June being the end of the campaign, but the subtext of course was, someone might kill Obama, and that’s why she’s waiting around.
Go away, Hillary. Please. Go far, far away. You and your husband’s lies have aided in destroying people’s faith in government. Go duck sniper fire in some other country. You don’t belong in our party. You couldn’t even run your own campaign well. I don’t want you anywhere near government. You don’t deserve it.
When this campaign first started, I had no reason to get involved. I thought any of our leaders – John Edwards, Clinton, or Obama, would do a better job than the Republicans so I planned to just sit the primaries out. But when I saw what some Clinton supporters were saying about Obama (having ‘no’ record, being unqualified for any of a number of bogus reasons) that pressed my button. I have great sympathy for the underdog.
The more I read, the more I realized we’d be crazy NOT to elect Obama. He has it all. He’s smart. He’s experienced. He’s principled. He had a genuine, documented record of forging important legislation and getting bipartisan support. He made a break with politics as usual to run a campaign that was truly of, by, and for the people when he rejected all PAC money. He spoke out against the war when it was politically risky to do so. He chose community organizing over Wall Street. He grew up in two countries, so he has a better understanding in his blood than most of how lucky we are here in America, and how much the rest of the world suffers, often as a result of our foreign policy abroad.
And then there’s Hillary. She’s a liar. She’s a backstabber (telling Obama to his face how “honored” she was to share the debate with him, and then a couple of days later saying, when he wasn’t there to respond, “Shame on you.”) She valued loyalty to herself over competency, which is why her campaign had so many issues. She ran as if it was a “coronation” – rich drapery at events, spending campaign donor money as if it was water. Staying at the Bellagio in Vegas. And perhaps worst of all, claiming her husband’s presidential experience as her own. (See my response to that here.)
I knew she was a climber, that the only reason she stayed with her husband after he embarrassed her in front of the world was so she could make him pay in a different way – by campaigning for her, and leveraging his connections on her behalf. There’s a wondrous kind of karma in this, in that he ended up being one of her biggest liabilities, rather than a help.
As a feminist, I was upset that our first female president would only have gotten there on her husband’s coattails. She is not qualified to be president. Why not wait for Barbara Boxer, who would make a fine president? Or Kathleen Sebelius? Or Janet Napolitano? Or Christine Gregoire? There are plenty of women who would make good presidents. I’m not someone who would vote for someone just because she was a woman. I will vote for the best person, no matter their color, their sex or sexual orientation, or their race.
For all her nastiness, for all the lies, I have defended her staying in the race. Until today.
Look. The nomination race is over. It’s been over since Obama won Wisconsin, just a week after sweeping the Potomac primaries. It’s been over, mathematically, for a long time.
But I wanted to allow her and her supporters their fantasy. I saw the contest as building our Democratic party base, given us reasons to go into every state and register new voters. And that’s been good for us, to a point. Until now. She knows Obama has received death threats. She knows that people who have stood up from positions of power and said no to war have been assassinated. And she saw the press go after Gov. Huckabee for his beyond dumb and horribly unfunny allusion to the same.
The second to last straw, for me, was her comment about how the “hard-working” “white people” were voting for her, implying that other people were not so hardworking. I wanted her excommunicated from the Democratic party for that statement alone.
But this comment was truly the last straw. Her statement today was simply unconscionable.
She needs to go away. Forever. I never want to see her face on TV or hear that voice again.
AMEN!!!!! I agree with everything you have just said and more. She has advocated from the start that she was owed the presidency and why, I will never understand this. I think she really believes in a dynasty type of government….after she she stayed her 8 years what then, her daughter??!!! OH well, Lisa, I agree with everything you have said and more.
Thanks, Brenda. And re her daughter – through the Tuzla episode, she made a liar out of her own daughter. Just disgusting. She must go!!!
Yes, this is brilliantly stated. She has to go. Immediately. Reid and Pelosi and Dean should be holding a press conference tomorrow demanding she get out and endorsing Obama. They probably are too chickenshit to do that, but that’s what real party leaders would do.
Here’s the phone number – maybe you can add that to your post on the front page – people should call the DNC and ask them to end this right now:
DNC: 202-863-8000
Done. See my new FP post. It won’t take much time to read.
And I even added a few numbers.
Thanks. I’m copying those into an email to forward right now!!
“…that’s what real party leaders would do. “
unfortunately, there are no leaders in the party right now…the people must continue to lead…the party will, by necessity, follow.
once the proper relationship between governed and governors that formed the basis for the founding of this country is restored, can we look to the leaders for assistance and implementation…and obama is the only one that appears qualified, ready, willing, and able to assume that mantle.
But WE ARE the real party leaders. We keep forgetting that. Of course we have to lead. They work for us!!!
it’s just been a long time since an apparent majority of the population realized it…40 years, plus or minus.
I agree 100%!!! This is beyond belief. She has even crossed lines that I doubt even Rove would cross in a campaign. Hillary needs to end her campaign and god help her if she runs for reelection to the senate. I will help anyone who primaries her. She has lost all credibility and has proven herself to be a heartless monster than America does not want or need.
Just this morning someone was floating something re a supreme court nomination for her. I had extremely negative feelings towards that, but was thinking maybe anything to get her off the trail. But now she did it to herself, so our hands are clean.
I’m sickened.
I feel bad for fans of Hillary who must surely feel more punched in the gut re this than HRC does.
Lisa,
When you find any statements of regret from any of them let us know.
Well, let’s not hold our breath.
I agree.She is not capable of remorse at all.An so sees no need to apologize.
What was very revealing to me is that while she apologized in a backhanded sort of way to the Kennedy family, she intentionally omitted any mention of the Obama family.
As one searches her one fins more and more dark corners illuminating her character.And what one finds is,shall we say, not pretty?
Unbelievable. This only proves the fact that she knows she is done and will do ANYTHING to be president. If I were Obama I would beef up the SS because she is a lunatic.
Can’t wait for Keith’s special comment, starting now!
TIME: Today’s comment is a repeat of March 6
So Hillary has been wishing and hoping for some time now.
Sorry for cussing folks but this is so beyond the pale. UGH!!!
Believe me, I’m cussing internally so much my fingers are blue from holding them in.
Was close to your diary.
High praise -thanks, Fabooj!!!
You just reminded me of something. Years ago the GOP blowhards used to yak and yak about members of her security that hated her because of how she treated them.
Of course I didn’t believe it. I do now.
Keith’s comment was very good. I am so sickened by what she said. I did not go to her town hall tonight – if I had, I surely would have booed her the entire time. My dept. head did (she’s an Obama supporter, but went with a few friends of hers who like/d Clinton). I am very curious to her how it went and if she addressed this horrible thing she did.
Un-freakin’-believable. But not really. That’s the sad part.
I hope someone at the town hall asked how she could be so heartless and when would she finally admit she has lost.
I was forwarded something from a psychologist who compared Hillary’s behavior to a sociopath. This was a few weeks ago. I had thought myself her lying was in the pathological end of the scale. Re Tuzla, I think she really convinced herself that’s what happened, so it wasn’t a ‘lie’. But that is pathological behavior.
I just don’t care anymore. She just needs to leave this race and go hide somewhere. I don’t know how she’ll redeem herself.
I just checked her Web site. No. Apology. Anywhere.
Either she doesn’t get it, or she doesn’t care, and I no longer have any remote curiosity which it is.
Well said. I agree 100% with everything you said.
there are a lot more of us than you would suspect.
l voted for bill in 92…major disappointment…never again…skipped that box in 96.
Olbermann’s special comment
Kathleen Sebelius.
Thanks. And misogyny. And embarrassed. I had a bunch of typos – cleaning now.
Hillary is a sociopath.
There is no question about what her train of thought was. It was: “Let’s get real: assassinations happen.” She is so emotionally tone-deaf that she cannot imagine the toll that assassinations take on the public.
Also, the way she implied what she was thinking is standard racketeer talk. As in, “Gee, that’s a nice kid you got there. It would be a shame if something would happen to him.”
“My opponent’s a good candidate. It would be a shame if he got assassinated. But we wouldn’t be adults if we didn’t plan for that possibility.”
The only upside is that this should end FOREVER any talk of a joint ticket. Who wants someone talking about your being assassinated sitting in the place most likely to benefit if you do?
And the fact that her backers include a number of CIA people makes this all the more sinister.
As far as I know, Obama hasn’t done or said anything to alienate anyone in the CIA.
This confirms my view however that Hillary has become so power hungry that she has lost any positive feminine qualities she may have had at some point. Women tend to be much better at managing to avoid tactless remarks than men, because they are more in tune to the sensitivities of others. Hillary comes across as autistic.
is has nothing to do with being female. This is about being a soulless creature who has no concern for anyone but its damn self. I’m not even sure Hillary is human any more.
Maybe it’s just me and I’m trapped inside sexist stereotypes, but I find it more shocking and revolting when a woman makes a remark tactlessly indicating an indifference to the loss of human life than when a man does.
A sort of feminist joke is that autism is an extreme case of being male. So how gender comes into this is: what good is having a first female president when the woman in question has lower powers of empathy and less sensitivity than your average man?
When she said assassination, she didn’t mean the assassination of Obama.
As far as I know.
Yes she did. She used that same pregnant pause she always does to try and imply something without saying it.
I was trying to be sarcastic as she was when she said Barack Obama was not a Muslim, as far as I know.
Imagine Lady Macbeth raised to the exponent of ten.
The cold blooded calculation needed to even make a pronouncement like this is chilling in and of itself.I now suspect that all her actions of the past few years can only be understood as laying the groundwork for her ascension to the Presidency.Her IWR vote was a calculated enabling vote for Bush, so was her vote for the Kyl-Lieberman Amendment, and so was her statement declaring that she would obliterate Iran.
Sorry, I guess I am a little worked up tonight. I have been sitting her chain smoking which means I now have to go to the store for more cigs. LOL
Look at it this way.She has now cornered the assassin votes.And they all vote in June.That is why her show must go on.
As soon as she started running for president, Hillary reminded of Lady Macbeth more than anything else. I’m pretty sure that thought was spontaneous; in other words, I hadn’t heard anyone make that comparison.
Shakespeare was on to something:
Her coolly bringing up the possibility of Obama’s assassination as a perfectly reasonable rationale for her staying in the race proves beyond a doubt that descriptions of her as a Lady Macbeth were completely on the mark.
And what else does her refusal ever to appear in a dress or a skirt mean but a desire to be unsexed?
The skirt comment was out of place.
In fairness to Clinton, she has been trying to show that she is as tough as men and so is in a position to tackle the demanding job requirements.
That would explain her statements about “obliterating” Iran,ducking sniper fire in Tuzla and, even, as now waiting for Barack Obama to be assassinated.
The nation should be glad that Barack came just in the nick of time to save the country from a disastrous Presidency on a par with Bush’s own.
There is no need to be fair here. She has been very unfair and we’ve bent over backwards to give her a pass so as not to split the party.
At this point, if anyone in the party still supports her, our party deserves that split.
My comment on fairness went only as far as explaining why she wears pantsuits at all times.
I disagree. I think it’s sheerly a practical matter. They’re simply more comfortable.
One thing I forgot that may cast a different light on pantsuit wearing tendencies of powerful women:Hillary Clinton,Cindy McCain etc.
You choose pantsuits over skirts becuase they are more comfortable and make it possible for you to wear tennis shoes.
With a person like Hillary,the personal is always the political.That is wearing clothes is designed to create an effect, an aura of power and I-have-already-arrived feeling.Ironically, your diagnosis of comfort being the selection criterion applies more to Cindy McCain who, born to privilege and enormous wealth, simply does not see the need to show off her entitlement.
Ha! I was wondering how far I could push this line of thought.
But I think that when late night talk show hosts joke about Hillary’s pant suits, they are on to something. To me, her dressing only in pant suits suggests that she is uncomfortable with being a woman.
Of course, one could argue that she is too fat to dress in skirts or dresses, so that she is being held to a higher standard because she is a woman. But that is not true, since Gore for example gets a lot of flak for not being able to keep his weight under control. We expect our presidents and presidential candidates, whether male or female, to be in good shape.
This is a real issue. The son in middle school of friends of mine in Boston says everyone in his class hates Hillary because she looks like a fat squirrel. Childrens’ remarks can often be illuminating, since their self-censorship skills have yet to be developed, so that they often say out loud what adults may be reluctant to admit to themselves even in their thoughts.
See, now that is offensive and sexist. I love being a woman. But I like the feel of pants better than skirts – I have more freedom in them. I can wear them with comfy tennis shoes instead of having to wear heels. Tennis shoes don’t go with dresses.
Anything about her politically is fair game. But I will defend any sexist attacks against anyone because they’re wrong, no matter how despiccable the individual.
You’re perfectly justified in defending sexist attacks against even despicable individuals. But please, as a gesture of favoring open discussion over censorship and suppression, give my post a favorable rating if anyone other than maryb2004 gives it a 0.
I think I can understand your preferring pants to skirts. I prefer jeans and a sweater to a suit and tie. But I don’t think that Hillary avoids dresses and skirts because pants are more comfortable. I think it’s because she wants to avoid the symbolism of being female.
I haven’t seen this discussed anywhere and I haven’t talked about it with anyone either, but it strikes me that Hillary and her advisers have seriously messed up on what she wears. There is a way that professional people dress, whether they are men or women. Every once in a while, you will see Obama in a suite and tie. To put it simply, since she started running for president, I have never seen Hillary dress in the female equivalent of that costume. And I think that’s hurt her. That’s what the late night hosts make fun of.
Again, in fairness to Hillary, she does look good in her pantsuits.So it may not be worth it to pursue the psychological aspects of her wearing pantsuits.
As she caters to the white working class voters, one of these days I expect her to descend from stairs wearing her best Scarlett O’Hara frilly Southern Belle dresses.
I’m troll rating this for the sexism in it.
I don’t even usually come into the diaries. But this is just obnoxious.
Hillary may be in a class all by herself.As the only student who has ever given a commencement address at Wellesley she is obviously very smart and knows it.That may have made her believe that she is a cut above the rest and can do anything.
In a real leader, though, those qualities that she has prized for a long time come up short.
When she epaks, one hears a didactic tone as though she is lecturing us mere mortals.The contrast with people like Jimmy Carter or Barack Obama could not be any starker.
As she wears her ambition on her sleeve and makes clear that enormous sense of entitlement,it is now dawning on us that the counterfeit life she has led so far is not going to get her to her chosen destination.The more it becomes clear to her,the more she cracks up.
That brings me to another analogy.The Picture of Dorian Gray.The spiritual and moral crack up on the inside has begun showing up on her face.
You’re right about that didactic tone of hers. How it struck me is that when she’s answering a question and talking to the camera, it’s as if she’s addressing her servants, deigning to tell them what she thinks, doing common folk a favor by giving them a tip on how the word really works from a member of the ruling class.
I don’t know where that comes from, but then, I’ve never understood Republicans.
You mean to say that her identification with the working class people (sorry, working class white people) in Scranton was a sham?
HOOCOODANODE?
One day she reminds me of Bubble Bush.
Now she’s reminding me of Kathleen Harris from Florida.
There is a scene in the HBO movie Recount of her saying that she is doing the work of Esther from the Bible.
Remember when Hillary said almost the same thing? I gagged when she said it.
Watch this silliness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmSwSvXsDA0
“Ever since I was a little girl, a great admirer of Esther … There weren’t too many models of women who had the opportunity to make a decision to take a chance, a risk that was very courageous.”
All I can say is that when Obama’s former adviser Samantha Power called Hillary a “monster”, she was right on the mark.
Update – Bob Parry picked this up at ConsortiumNews.com and is running it under the so appropriate title, Hillary’s Shark-Jumping moment.
I’m happy to see, in a quick tour of the Sunday talk shows, that Hillary’s gaffe is top of the show all around. She deserves this, in spades.
Wow, you get to be a guest essayist and a historian. I’m impressed.
Thanks. I’m thrilled. He’s published me several times now. Very cool. He’s the guy who originally broke the Iran Contra stories. He’s the cream of the crop.
Great post, Lisa.
I’m still somewhat of a n00b – how do I recommend this diary?
There should be a big button up near the top right that says “Recommend” – click that, and thank you very much!