Martin Longman a contributing editor at the Washington Monthly.
He is also the founder of Booman Tribune and Progress Pond. He has a degree in philosophy from Western Michigan University.
GOP candidates downticket from McCain have gotta be scared shitless. The top of the Republican ticket is such a disaster that a lot of extra House and Senate and Governor’s races are going to go to Democrats.
No. I read somewhere that he can’t lift his arms above shoulder height, which explained the very odd arm patting going on when he met Bristol Palin and her now future husband, but does not explain not shaking hands.
I don’t know. I bet neither of them likes the other at all, but Obama is willing to be diplomatic about it. Which speaks to one of their major differences in outlook in general.
Its like them saying both sides are so negative. Give me a break Obama only tries to respond to attacks on his character. While McCain is running a campaign based on attacking Obama’s character.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. “You probably never heard of them before…” how stupid does he think “that one” was? He can’t try to hide it anymore he is a stupid bigot. Why would he want a town hall meeting when he hates everyone except possibly well made up trollops? Some old soldiers never die they just grow senile and angry in front of a whole nation.
He is so thin skinned he could not even shake Obama’s hand after a debate? Is McCain for real or is this some sort of horror movie with a reanimated corpse running for president? WTF?
McSame’s contempt for Obama is so obvious I wonder why Obama doesn’t call him on it. And that’s what it is, contempt. Pure, Bush/Cheney “I am your overlord so shut the f*ck up in my presence” contempt.
He had contempt for everyone in that room, Brokaw included. I can almost see the thought balloon overhead: “I can’t believe THAT ONE is beating me.”
His campaign is pointing it out. But he can’t point it out on stage, I think. It’s one of those things that sounds a little petty if he made a point of it in a debate, but it’s perfect fodder for ads, campaign memes.
Well, we already know diplomacy ain’t his strong point.
The cynic in me is saying that it might actually earn him some votes in certain demographics that he traditionally has trouble with.
GOP candidates downticket from McCain have gotta be scared shitless. The top of the Republican ticket is such a disaster that a lot of extra House and Senate and Governor’s races are going to go to Democrats.
I didn’t realize there was a post debate thread. Here’s CBS insta poll data:
Who won?
Obama 39
McCain 27
Tie – 35
Uncommitted – did you change?
70% Still Uncommitted
14 McCain
15 Obama
Economy
Who can make the right decisions predebate versus post debate
McCain – 41 before but now 49
Obama – 54 abefore but no 68
Understands your needs
McCain
35 before but now 46
Obama
60 before but now 80
Prepared for the job
McCain
80 before but now 84
Obama
42 before but now 57 (Im not sure i got that one)
Here’s the link
thanks. I got it off the TV when it was read.
Josh Marshall has it up. I’d embed it but I keep getting an HTML error here when I try.
did that work?
Does McCain’s war wound make it difficult for him to shake hands?
No. I read somewhere that he can’t lift his arms above shoulder height, which explained the very odd arm patting going on when he met Bristol Palin and her now future husband, but does not explain not shaking hands.
It dates back to his POW days.
But that’s not what the handshake was about, unless they were high-fiving or something.
He shook hands just fine during their intro.
there’s plenty of video showing him shake hands before and after that diss, how disrespectful of mccain.
“that one” – that moment is going to leave a mark
McSame/Palin are going for the Politics Of Screw You.
They just screwed themselves.
Why the hell do I keep hearing the talkingheads say “these guyS don’t like EACH OTHER”
NO. McCain doesn’t like Obama. Obama is more than willing to smile, look at McCain, shake McCain’s hand and call him by name. Period.
I don’t know. I bet neither of them likes the other at all, but Obama is willing to be diplomatic about it. Which speaks to one of their major differences in outlook in general.
Its like them saying both sides are so negative. Give me a break Obama only tries to respond to attacks on his character. While McCain is running a campaign based on attacking Obama’s character.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. “You probably never heard of them before…” how stupid does he think “that one” was? He can’t try to hide it anymore he is a stupid bigot. Why would he want a town hall meeting when he hates everyone except possibly well made up trollops? Some old soldiers never die they just grow senile and angry in front of a whole nation.
He is so thin skinned he could not even shake Obama’s hand after a debate? Is McCain for real or is this some sort of horror movie with a reanimated corpse running for president? WTF?
McSame’s contempt for Obama is so obvious I wonder why Obama doesn’t call him on it. And that’s what it is, contempt. Pure, Bush/Cheney “I am your overlord so shut the f*ck up in my presence” contempt.
He had contempt for everyone in that room, Brokaw included. I can almost see the thought balloon overhead: “I can’t believe THAT ONE is beating me.”
McCain isn’t fit to serve anywhere. President, Senate not even mayor of Wasilla, Alaska.
His campaign is pointing it out. But he can’t point it out on stage, I think. It’s one of those things that sounds a little petty if he made a point of it in a debate, but it’s perfect fodder for ads, campaign memes.
Fair enough. Oh, CNN’s snap poll has Obama winning the debate 54-30.
Kos has a summary of the CNN poll:
Opinion of Barack Obama (before debate)
Favorable: 64 (60)
Unfavorable: 34 (38)
Opinion of John McCain (before debate)
Favorable: 51 (51)
Unfavorable: 46 (46)
Who expressed his views more clearly in the debate?
Obama 60
McCain 30
Who spent more time attacking his opponent?
Obama 17
McCain 63
Who seemed to be the stronger leader?
Obama 54
McCain 43
Who was most likeable?
Obama 65
McCain 28
I’m Voting for THAT ONE button.
thank you, kindly.
OK, I just saw this through digg.com and it cracked my shit up.
“Presidential Candidates as Trains”
very dehumanizing comment
I’d just like to take this opportunity to say: ha ha, motherfuckers, called it.