Fear. It’s the media’s new favorite four letter word again. Fear of the Muslim terrorists in Gitmo, or anywhere else we keep (cough – allegedly cough) keep them, being sent to American prisons. More dangerous than Charles Manson, Eric Rudolph, John Lee Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, Tim McVeigh and Hannibal Lector (well, though he’s a fictional character, at least he escaped from American Law Enforcement, if only in a novel and a movie).
But lost in this whole fearsome debate is the existence of millions of potential Muslim terrorists already living among us. Millions of little Muhammads and Husseins and Osamas just waiting to grow up and turn on us. Are we supposed to ignore these future potential evildoers just because they haven’t done anything unlawful — yet? Are we supposed to ignore the threat they pose to our way of life just because they are US citizens or otherwise reside legally in this country? I think not.
Yes, even Harry Reid has acknowledged that Muslim terrorists, or even people who we now know are not terrorists, but are Muslims, are too dangerous to be let into the United States of America’s prison system. Our precious prison space must be reserved for far less vicious home grown American terrorists, gang members, murderous drug cartel members, serial killers and assorted rapists, armed robbers, etc. You know, garden variety real American criminals who kill innocent people in drive by shootings, go on killing sprees at universities, schools and day care centers, and shoot police officers after luring them into a deadly trap. Those kind of people we can handle, just fine thank you very much. But foreigners who can’t speak American who were picked up in panicked sweeps in Afghanistan and elsewhere around the world, often after we paid bounties to some dubious characters for said “detainees?” That’s completely out of the question.
Still, the dangers posed by these few detainees pales in comparison to the threat posed by free Muslim Americans who walk our streets, go to our work places and send their kids off to the same schools as we send ours, every damn day. We’re looking at an army of crazed Islamofascist ticking time bombs, my friends. And if it isn’t safe to put a bunch of tortured and abused brain damaged, crippled “War on Terror” detainees from Gitmo behind the walls of our Super Max prisons, how much more dangerous is it to allow these so-called “good Muslims” to be walking around free in every major (and many a minor) city and state in America, Land of the Free and Home of the Brave? It’s reckless beyond imagination I tell you! Something must be done, and soon, before they start beheading us, imposing Sharia law and converting our children to worshiping that Demonic Allah guy.
But what to do? We can’t put them in prisons here in the good old US of A, obviously. Not enough prisons. We could I suppose ask them to voluntarily leave and go back where they came from, but who really expects these “people” to do that after they’ve had a chance to see Disney World and Las vegas (or just the local strip club, for that matter)? We could deport them all, but who would take such possible future criminals in for us? China? Russia? India? Madagascar? Not even Saudi Arabia, I’m afraid would be willing to take that risk. Besides, what’s to stop them from re-infiltrating our society in the future should we ever let our guard down and let a few of them back in by mistake or otherwise?
No, ladies and gentlemen of Real America, we have to make the hard decision to act, and act without mercy, to save our future from the coming Muslim Insurgency. It will be hard, of course, but luckily for us, history is filled with examples of successful eliminations of internal threats to society. Obviously, the first step is relocation to “reservations” or “concentration camps” to separate these wolves in sheep’s clothing from the more peaceable, law abiding and (mostly) Christian souls that make up this great nation of ours. The next step will be harder. No one likes to contemplate a final solution to these types of dangers, but sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and do what’s necessary to preserve the purity and the freedoms of the greatest nation on earth.
For if it is too perilous to imprison battered and brutalized detainees from Gitmo in the lower 48 (or even in Alaska), how much greater is the jeopardy we face by allowing these potential jihadists in our midst to walk around free, protected by our laws and the foolish sympathies of weak minded latte liberals? To paraphrase the great Jedi Master Mace Windu: “They’re too dangerous to be left alive!”
And isn’t that the logical conclusion we must reach if we all agree that our vast prison industrial complex is too feeble to guarantee our safety from a few Muslim villains (and the occasional poor schlub who just happened to be wrongfully detained along with them)? Please, tell me if I’m wrong. But I will tell you one thing: I bet true patriots like Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage and Michelle Malkin are with me on this.
The Republican nitwits who fear that our prisons are not safe enough to house these pathetic emigrants from Gitmo are absolutely, totally, completely nuts. WTF is wrong with them? Are all their mental screws coming loose or are they totally unable to differentiate nightmare from reality. Come on, neocons, get a grip!
Unfortunately it ain’t just Republicans. Harry Reid, our own
fearlessfearful leader is leading the pack of panderers trying to stir up lunatic fear. Rest easy Harry, the US of A may have lost its lead in everything else, but we’re still Number One in prisons, convicts, and executions. We may drop like flies from illnesses we can’t afford to treat, but by the gods we will not allow ourselves to be potential victims of those who have not been shown to have done anything threatening and who are locked up inside the most secure cages of concrete and steel that our military-prison complex is capable of constructing.Harry Reid’s statement where he said he agreed with “President Bush (someone else) and Barack Obama” was strange…how stressed is he that he doesn’t acknowledge who is president?
I cannot imagine what a rats’ nest this all is, but the old addage, when you find one rat in your house you can bet there’s a dozen, comes to mind.
It occurs to all of us that closing Gitmo is not about finding a safe place to stash the detainees, instead it’s about the disclosure of the various practices used in Gitmo that would come to light through any tribunals that is so profoundly terrifying.
I read Reid’s comments differently.
I think he’s saying that when/if the detainees get their day in court (finally) the courts will order them released. I don’t know if that’s a correct prediction. Although it should be. Heck, the U.S. admits it’s holding many innocent men but it just can’t release them because other countries won’t take them. And this evidently comports with the rule of law and constitution (my understanding of the current constitutional law is some detention of this sort is constitutional but if it lasts a long time then no). We do similar things to those facing removal in immigration courts–hold them in prison indefinitely even after they have served their debt to society.
What is the point of this country re-recognizing habeas corpus if there is no real remedy? You finally win your writ of habeas corpus but you can’t be released? What a shame that our country is evidently working hard to codify this as the law of the land–all three branches. It’s sick–and the one branch that is less political and can do something about it–the judiciary–is so stacked with right-wingers that they will probably allow this Kafkaesque situation to continue. It’s been a while since I’ve reviewed this but the current law is unconstitutional in my book. We are about to imprison innocent men for over a decade because our country is a sick country and we want to get around the writ of habeas corpus and our basic liberties.
So what Reid is saying is that Bush created this Kafkaesque system where we can’t give prisoners their day in court because we have no real evidence against them and will lose the case and the traditional remedy (ha) for people that are not guilty is to be let go free but that does not poll well at all and it would play right into the GOP’s hand because they have making the argument that the Democrats want to give Muslims rights and look–they’re about to treat them like a real person! But we live in a unique time where it’s too dangerous to even let the innocent go free–especially to politicians trying to look “tough on terror”.
So we will continue to imprison innocent men because it doesn’t poll well to have a writ of habeas corpus. The Democrat’s hands are tied–don’t you see? And look–they are bumping up their poll numbers a little bit! It’s all good. They reverse course once they control 75% of congress and have the political capital necessary to stand up for the rule of law. Just keep supporting them a little bit more . . .
Especially when the media is busy doing the GOP’s bidding, trying to distract us from Bush/Cheney crimes by screaming about Pelosi, as if that magically absolved the Chimperor?
Yeah. It’s very frustrating because Pelosi and Reid and the Dems take the bait and run scared.
It’s a viscous cycle. The very act of running scared on this issue perpetuates the belief that the Democrats have something to be scared about. There are very few Democrats that actually make the argument that you and I support; and those that do are ridiculed and undercut by Reid and Obama. The vast majority, including Obama, offer lip service to the ideals of civil liberty but their actions show they run scared.
This is a perfect example of what Democrats do when faced with a stark choice; Bush illegally and unconstitutionally imprisoned men and can’t win convictions so what are the Democrats going to do about it? Cover it up, evidently. And run scared in the process. It’s the worst of both worlds. It’s both a policy and a political defeat.
Which also perpetuates the notion the Democrats are cowards and are therefore not “strong” leaders on such things as national security. Ironically, if they stood up for habeas corpus when it isn’t polling well, they would help prove that they are indeed tough and will fight for their deeply held principles.
But we know they’re not principled nor are the strong. They are unprincipled cowards willing to defend tyranny and injustice because the polls show to do so may be unpopular.
I’ve given up on the Democrats. I’m doing what the state of California did yesterday. Saying “no” to all the rat bastards in both parties. Unprincipled scum–the lot of them. Beholden to bankers, oligarchs, right-wingers, and the fools in the traditional media. Us liberals have no allies in power. We let these conservative Democrats co-opt us so that all we have is lip service while our “leaders” work against us and for the right-wingers.
Anyway. Whether the Democrats were politically smart to become conservative or not is besides the point–our economic system and government, based on oligarchy and military empire, is foolish on the merits and our country will implode because it’s a terrible policy. It will lead to disaster.
It’s every man, woman, and child for themselves. The Democrats only care about the bankers, other corporate backers, and looking “tough to the Washington press corps.
I, for one, am done with this cowardly nitwits in the Democratic party. They are too far gone. Our country is too far gone. And I’m not being dramatic. I really believe that. Supporting Democrats now only prolongs our agony. The quicker we liberals realize Obama and the Dems are not on our side and will only kill the life in any movement for “change” the quicker we can get on with rebuilding a democracy. Obama’s main job now is to co-opt the swelling dissatisfaction and demand for change by pretending to offer change and offering us the television version of change so that you and I shut up and vote for the same unprincipled cowards that created this mess.
Those viscous cycles are very sticky.
Ha. Yeah.
I was trying to work in a lube joke and didn’t know where to stick it . ..
I agree with SFHawkguy.
While I would not personally not miss Harry, before we throw out this bath-water, I want to know who’s the next baby.
I am really unimpressed with Reid’s communication skills, but whom do you nominate to replace him ?
He did a very poor job of communicating legal facts the other day, but I got it between the lines, I know some lawyerspeak, having been one in a previous life.
If you bring gitmo detainees to America, you will have to put them on trial.
Harry, a former prosecutor, knows very well that most of them will be acquitted, for various reasons, and many of those reasons have nothing to do with guilt, they have more to do with inadmissible evidence.
When American courts find people not guilty, they order them released.
So Immigration steps in, but that’s not supermax security, it’s not even criminal law.
And who gets blamed ? Not the judge, he just follows the law, it’s talk to your congressman time, and it is a bit difficult under our Constitution to imprison the dangerous but not guilty.
I think Harry deserves some credit for seeing the problem.
Isn’t it interesting how scum finds a way to fill any open niche. We lost Zell and Joe, but now we have Harry. He needs to be dumped. Whether from his Senate position or the Senate itself really doesn’t matter. He is not fit to be the voice of congressional Democrats. But he has secured himself a place in history by reminding us, even in this time of hope for change, that Nader was right.
Nader was not right. Please don’t fall into the trap of taking similarities for equivalence. That trap has cost us too dearly.
He was absolutely right that electing a Democrat to congress is not some kind of step toward a government we can live with.
It used to be that men would be ashamed to have a woman lead them in courage.
The Rude One is unafraid.
Sort of like Jews. Oh wait, I’m in the wrong century and the wrong country!
I can think of some folks who should be in prison.
The ones who planned this bogus attack in NY right after Netanyahu was running around spreading bullshit.
They planned to use C4? LOL!