It’s bad enough that we are funding the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan with another (non-budgeted) supplemental funding bill. I know that Obama will budget for this next and year and that we are working off Bush’s last budget, but it still is a perpetuation of a fundamentally dishonest practice. What’s really troubling, though, is that we continue the practice (established by the Republicans) of attaching otherwise unpassable legislation to war funding bills as a way of strong-arming Congress into voting for it. This time, it’s over $100 billion for the International Monetary Fund to bail out the global economy. It’s the fulfillment of a promise that Obama made at the G20 meeting in London, so I understand why the Democrats are attaching it to the war spending. It’s the only way to get the money appropriated. Ironically, though, the House Republicans are still going to vote against the IMF money even though that means they will be voting to leave the troops stranding in the field with nothing but their dirty jockstraps. And, do you know what that means? That means that Democrats who promised not to vote for any more war funding that didn’t have firm withdrawal strings attached now are under relentless pressure to break their promises, or the whole bill will fail.
Isn’t that special how the administration changed and the Congress changed and it is still the anti-war Democrats who have all the pressure on them?
I think it’s special. One thing you can say for the Republicans is that they aren’t scared of being accused of not supporting the troops. Now, I am personally ambivalent about this bill. I am not sure I would vote for it (if I were in Congress, I would study it carefully), but I also don’t necessarily want to see a giant train wreck. I have concerns about the plan for Afghanistan and about how the IMF money is going to be spent. I understand and even advocate the need to play hardball now and then. The Republicans are rank hypocrites on this issue, as they are on so many others. But I don’t have to like how this is all going down. I don’t think I’ll cry if the House refuses to pass the supplemental. It will make Obama look bad, including to the international community. But, sometimes, the way our government goes about its business, it deserves to look bad.
What about the Lieberman rider banning the release of torture pics? Did that make it through the reconciliation process? Or has it made it that far yet? I’m about a week behind on the latest…
No banning of the release of the torture pics in the bill they voted on, according to cspan when the voting was taking place.
Here’s the Roll Call.
Fuck it no. I’m not bailing out European firms as well as our own.
Obama is not going to leave the troops there with nothing like Bush would, he will recall them before that happens. Stand fucking firm.
I wish some Dems would turn the tactics around and load a repeal of DADT or DOMA into a bill like this.
I told you this was Bush’s third term. Don’t expect anything on health care except a mandate and maybe a cap on malpractice awards. From the way Obama was talking, we can expect cuts in Medicaid service and possibly mandatory Medicaid HMO’s.
yup, it is going to look bad. and who the fuck cares?
when you make promises, sometimes people hold you to them.
and when your intial bailout was handled so badly, is there any wonder there’s outrage when another one is snuck into a completely unrelated bill? at the very least it gives the impression of bad intentions.
so fuck ’em.
I’m not ambivalent at all. Eff the IMF bailout.
I concur and, forgive me for pointing out, that the more things change, the more they stay the same. President Obama who promised to be an agent of change, therefore, should be a stalwart of the status quo; military expenditures, wars in the Middle East, protection for rich bankers, inadequate health insurance for the American population, you know, that whole sorry list of Republican misgovernment.
God, but is is hard to keep ones hopes up in these troubled times.
I’m certain that we pleebs needn’t worry our pretty little heads about this. Obama is better and smarter and more virtuous than all of us. He’s playing chess while we play marbles and hopscotch. I’m sure that this is all in Obama’s Super Ultra Master Plan(TM) that the hoi polloi like me cannot understand because it’s all so superior to me.
Let’s just give him more time to stab his other constituencies (this one is the anti-war constituency) in the back and show his true colors for all the world to see.
House passed it 226-202, with 5 Republican votes.
Disgusting on every level.
I am not in the least ambivalent. There should be zero funding for the current wars and occupations. That is the only way to ensure that they end.