One of the more interesting things discussed in Jeffrey Goldberg’s piece on Israel and Iran is the way Israel views the threats of a nuclear Iran that are unrelated to the actual use of the weapons.
The challenges posed by a nuclear Iran are more subtle than a direct attack, Netanyahu told me. “Several bad results would emanate from this single development. First, Iran’s militant proxies would be able to fire rockets and engage in other terror activities while enjoying a nuclear umbrella. This raises the stakes of any confrontation that they’d force on Israel. Instead of being a local event, however painful, it becomes a global one. Second, this development would embolden Islamic militants far and wide, on many continents, who would believe that this is a providential sign, that this fanaticism is on the ultimate road to triumph.
“You’d create a great sea change in the balance of power in our area,” he went on. An Iran with nuclear weapons would also attempt to persuade Arab countries to avoid making peace with Israel, and it would spark a regional nuclear-arms race. “The Middle East is incendiary enough, but with a nuclear-arms race, it will become a tinderbox,” he said.
Other Israeli leaders believe that the mere threat of a nuclear attack by Iran—combined with the chronic menacing of Israel’s cities by the rocket forces of Hamas and Hezbollah—will progressively undermine the country’s ability to retain its most creative and productive citizens. Ehud Barak, the defense minister, told me that this is his great fear for Israel’s future.
“The real threat to Zionism is the dilution of quality,” he said. “Jews know that they can land on their feet in any corner of the world. The real test for us is to make Israel such an attractive place, such a cutting-edge place in human society, education, culture, science, quality of life, that even American Jewish young people want to come here.” This vision is threatened by Iran and its proxies, Barak said. “Our young people can consciously decide to go other places,” if they dislike living under the threat of nuclear attack. “Our best youngsters could stay out of here by choice.”
It makes me wonder. An Israel largely contained to its 1967 borders, which had generously given up land they could have kept by force, living aside a viable Palestinian state, would have little trouble maintaining civil and commercial ties to the Arab world, or in presenting a united front against Persian expansionism. Having shedded it’s pariah status on the international stage, it would be a place much more attractive to live for American Jews. If Israel was still menaced by rocket attacks from Lebanon or Gaza or the West Bank, everyone would see Israel as justified in fighting back. In fact, the Palestinian government would not allow these attacks to originate from their territory, because they would know that their state could be taken away as quickly as it was granted. Iran would become the pariah if they continued to send rockets for Hizbollah to fire into Israel. In any case, Iran’s influence in the Arab world would be diminished.
So, why doesn’t Israel choose this saner path? I believe it is because too many Israelis want to keep Palestinian land in perpetuity. If Goldberg is right that Israel will unilaterally, and without notice or American permission, attack Iran no later than July of next year, then we have to consider the consequences (which Goldberg decribes):
…they stand a good chance of changing the Middle East forever; of sparking lethal reprisals, and even a full-blown regional war that could lead to the deaths of thousands of Israelis and Iranians, and possibly Arabs and Americans as well; of creating a crisis for Barack Obama that will dwarf Afghanistan in significance and complexity; of rupturing relations between Jerusalem and Washington, which is Israel’s only meaningful ally; of inadvertently solidifying the somewhat tenuous rule of the mullahs in Tehran; of causing the price of oil to spike to cataclysmic highs, launching the world economy into a period of turbulence not experienced since the autumn of 2008, or possibly since the oil shock of 1973; of placing communities across the Jewish diaspora in mortal danger, by making them targets of Iranian-sponsored terror attacks, as they have been in the past, in a limited though already lethal way; and of accelerating Israel’s conversion from a once-admired refuge for a persecuted people into a leper among nations.
I’m not convinced that Goldberg is correct in his assessment of Israeli intentions, but if he is right, what should America do now to preempt this looming catastrophe? It seems to me that the politics in Israel, America, and Iran are making it impossible to avoid a conflagration of some kind in the near future. None of these three nations appears capable of standing up to domestic opinion and coming to sane conclusions.
What the US needs to do is obvious. Set a date certain for the cutoff of all aid to Israel unless it withdraws to its legal 1967 borders. Prevail on the UN to guarantee its security once it has done so.
Pour financial aid into setting up a viable Palestinian state, conditioned on an end to attacks on Israel. Join the rest of the developed world in helping form economic dependence between Israel and Palestine.
This would deflate the credibility of the fanatics and crazies on both sides and give a chance to the majority who just want to live their lives. This is a case where peace and justice call for the same solutions. I think some version of this scenario is truly the only viable path to avoiding catastrophe. The primary roadblock to implementing it is less the region itself as much as the special interests in each of the three countries that benefit, politically and economically from the status quo and are incapable of seeing beyond that.
And when the Congress votes 97-3 and 432-6 to earmark money or outright advanced weapons to Israel in defiance of the president then what?
I think Obama is horrible on issue after issue but I do not fault him on the middle east. Israel has openly, legally and legitimately gained almost total influence in congress on this particular issue.
I”m not saying it’s politically probable, just that it’s the only solution with a prayer of defusing the coming conflagration in the ME. Unfortunately those who profit from the permanent war dominate the foreign policy of all three countries.
BTW, I forgot to include above a precondition for the massive development aid for the new Palestine: formal recognition of Israel’s legitimacy and right to exist within its ’67 boundaries.
In addition to eliminating financial aid that Israel doesn’t really need, the US could make symbolic gestures that recognize Palestinian sovereignty. What was the WH event that Helen Thomas ended her career at? Jewish Heritage Day or something like that? Does the WH host a Palestinian Heritage Day?
Where do you get the idea that Israel doesn’t need the aid? There’s no way it can keep up its mega-military establishment with domestic funding.
Yeah, war with Iran is gonna make Tel Aviv real attractive to your metropolitan jews…
A pre-emptive withdrawal of US foreign aid for Israel if it start mobilizing for war could have a salutary effect.
Of course, ADL will go nuts not to mention what AIPAC will do.
The simple statement that “the US cannot support an Israeli war of aggression” should suffice for explanation.
One of three things is likely to give or break under the tension in the Middle East: the Likud party loses control of the Israeli government and more moderate politicians take over; Iran decides that nuclear weapons are not worth the trouble; a armed conflict under several different scenarios, all of them bad news.
are there any “more moderate” politicians in Israel any more? Far as I can tell all of the parties support taking all the land.
the US will support whatever Israel does.
Iran is the only sane actor in this mess. “nuclear weapons aren’t worth the trouble” is the same as conceding that an independent foreign policy isn’t worth the trouble.
Your precious Obama didn’t send them the bunker busters to do this bombing with and Saudi Arabia didn’t give them the airspace to deliver them in. It all about fucked up Jews.
I didn’t say it was all about the Jews. I mentioned the domestic politics of three countries, only one of which aspires to be a Jewish State. As for the bunker busters, has something changed? Cause, the right-wing went nuts in March when Obama took away Israel’s bunker-busters.
Learn some facts because things did change. He sent laser guided JDAMS instead. They were sent in May. The one thing that has not changed is your tired old Anti-Semitic spews.
I’m not convinced that Goldberg is correct is in assessment of Israeli intentions, but if he is right, what should America do now to preempt this looming catastrophe?
What to do is obvious – cut off aid until Israel definitively assures the US that it won’t undertake such a foolish operation. Domestic politics will prevent that from happening.
(Another option would be for the US to announce that it will preemptively shoot down any unauthorized military aircraft operating over Iraq, or any military aircraft from non-border states operating over the Persian Gulf. I think the US military would be highly unenthusiastic about such a policy, and the pushback in the political sphere would be strong as well.)
Is someone channeling Castro? Didn’t he rant and ramble about Iran getting nuked earlier this week?
If Israel is actually thinking about attacking Iran they are as looney as Fidel.
Obama should give a speech praising Eisenhower’s forcing Britain, France and Israel to back down in the 1956 Suez war because their actions were not in the interests of the US. He and the administration should publicly and privately make clear that they will not support an attack or be drawn into a war because of the miscalculations of others.
It’s hard to ignore the realpolitik implications for the Obama administration in Goldberg’s thesis. (And President Obama, like Saul Alinsky and the Gamaliel organizing group that mentored him early in his career, is nothing if not a realist extraordinaire.) If Israel attacked Iran and successfully deteriorated its nuclear weapons development like it did against Iraq a generation ago (something it could not do without US intelligence) it could arguably solve two problems with one stone: Iran would be disempowered, even if the current Iranian administration was more empowered, and the uproar among liberals, especially liberal Jews, against Israel could effectively allow Obama to take a hard line against the Likud leadership in favor of the two-state solution without endangering his substantial base of support among liberal Jews in the US. Looks like a win-win scenario to me, unfortunately.
But all the evidence we have indicates that Israel doing that is impossible.
Effectively crippling Iran’s nuclear development, you mean?
Maybe, but that doesn’t mean that it is something that the administration needs to feel compelled to get out in front of either. At worst, Israel bombs Iran and fails, thus making Likud ridiculous as well as dangerous and enabling Obama to ignore them without domestic political costs. Result: two-state solution, albeit with an empowered Iran.
At best, both Iran and Likud are dis-empowered if Iran loses a few years in nuclear development and Likud looks even more dangerous to American Jewish liberals if not quite as ridiculous. I just don’t see the rationale for expending many resources in trying to head off any self-destructive behavior on the part of Israel’s current leadership here, at least from a realpolitik perspective.
I think you assessment is insane.
It bears a striking resemblance to the “creative destruction” attitude of Michael Ledeen and the proto-fascists of the neo-conservative movement. Basically, you start blowing shit up and see where the pieces fall, hoping that anything is better than the status quo. Worked great in Iraq.
It is insane, I agree. And that’s why our current national leadership wouldn’t do anything like that ourselves. But it doesn’t mean that our national leaders can justify putting their currently weak political capital on the line to stop political enemies like Likud from doing insane things.
(I’ve gotten this scenario, actually, from some friends’ email conversations who are colonels and majors in the middle east right now. Not that they know any better, because they don’t. (Wow, are they wrong alot.) But this is what they think, in their water cooler talk, is going on right now when they try to make sense of the absurdities from their point of view.)
As I’ve said before I no longer agree with your condemnation of creative destruction in certain areas but in this case I tend to agree with you.
Is there anyone outside the US who, even if Israel acted unilaterally not also blame the US? They are our proxy (well we are their cover anyway) any blowback would also fall on us even if it failed it would be very very harsh.
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But you forget that as long as the US doesn’t engage it any action itself it doesn’t matter what the world thinks. What are they going to do? Accuse Obama of smelling of sulpher in the UN? They certainly won’t attack us any more that they already have (we’re already in two wars). And it might also provide an opportunity for ending Likud’s base of support here in the US, which could result in Israel’s isolatation and an eventual two-state solution with subsequent world embrace of America if Obama chose that strategy as a solution to the problem that Israel would cause by attacking.
I see a lot of moral reasons to prevent more killing that argue in favor of trying to prevent it. I just don’t see a lot of political reasons for doing so, which should give us lots of reasons to be concerned about such an attack from actually occurring.
Okay, suppose Israel attacks, and the US just stands there (metaphorically) sucking its thumb and trying to look innocent, but gets blamed anyway.
And you ask “what would they do about it?”
Well, Iran can tell their allies in Iraq and Lebanon to attack, and support taliban fighters in Afganistan. They can also make the straights of Hormuz very dangerous for oil shipments; while the US would very effectively stop things like subs or major ships, small fast boats, mines, and land-based anti-ship missiles are much harder to deal with. The result? A big oil crisis.
Russia and China will see opportunities to increase influence and profit by dealing with the Iranians; if the US is tied up in a regional war, don’t be surprised if there is a threat against Taiwan. Or Georgia.
I hope that those responsible for handling the situation aren’t just shrugging and saying “oh well, not our problem, so what could possibly go wrong?”
On its face, you’re describing a very weak response that would likely be interpreted by most nations as Iranian unprovoked attacks. It’s not something that I would expect anyone in the Pentagon or Foggy Bottom to be particularly concerned about.
The goals of your argument — that war between Israel and Iran should be avoided — are right on target. But the reason is because such a war is unnecessary and killing is wrong period, not because such a prospect implies any particular disaster for the US or for President Obama. That’s a red herring argument. Just stick to a values-based argument here. You can’t win a capabilities-based one like you and shergald are making because there is no contest in capabilities between the US and Iran. We mustn’t allow war because war is wrong, not because Obama or anyone else in the US has much to fear from a war between Israel and Iran.
Israel has a lot to fear from Iran’s retaliatory capability. No Iran will not win the war, but it will exact considerable damage on Israel, directly and through surrogates, and devastate the US economy at a time when it is in poor shape to begin with.
Obama is playing with fire if he is even considering a go-ahead for Israel.
I agree, Israel should fear war with Iran, but unfortunately it is not Israel making decisions today but rather an elite subset of Israel called Likud. And as the Greek general of antiquity Hermocrates said, “Nobody is driven to war by ignorance, and no one who thinks he will gain anything from it is deterred by fear.”
How will Iran hurting Israel devastate the US economy?
Oil! Redux to 1979 and the Carter years, oil shortages and waiting lines at gas stations. I believe that at least 30% of our energy needs pass through the Straits of Hormuz.
The Saudis could go through the Red Sea and Suez right?
Why? … because there is no way for Israel to attack Iran with out our tactic approval .. Israeli planes can’t get their with out either using Iraqi airspace .. or flying over another unfriendly Middle Eastern country .. not to mention the blowback
That’s just not a compelling enough reason. First of all, Israel has never had a problem violating its neighbors airspace to engage in its frequent attacks. And since when has the US ever been concerned about world opinion? No one really did anything except whine and moan about America when Israel invaded Lebanon recently, even though everyone knew it was an American proxy war with Iran going on there. Same thing would be the outcome of a proxy war against Iran directly. Plausible deniability really does carry enough weight in the world, particularly when almost the whole planet, rivals as well as allies, depend on you for some semblance of order and prosperity.
All the US would have to do to stave off world ire would be to condemn the attack or even just admonish Israel as unhelpful for doing it. Cynical as it is, that’s just reality.
I recall several years ago, the Iranian ambassador speaking on the Charlie Rose Show making it clear, that “if attacked, we will defend ourselves.” Why does everyone underestimate the Persians? They will defend themselves, and that would mean, whether attacked by the US or Israel, a rain of missiles would fall on Israeli cities. So with all this saber rattling, from Israel, who would want to live in Israel even today?
The US, as before, will take its orders from Jerusalem, even to the point of supplying Israel with a SDI type shield against missiles, which just happened, paid for by the US, which only increases the likelihood of a stupid action against Iran by Israel. Just what was Obama thinking? Still, Israel would be insane to attack Iran or manipulate the US to do so as its surrogate, because it would be devastated. That’s when Israel might pull out its nuclear card and play it.
The nuclear danger here is from Israel, not Iran.
In all likelihood, Iran will achieve its nuclear goals and there will be a shift in the balance of power in the Middle East. That probably could have been avoided long ago if Israel were interested in peace with its neighbors. But that could never happen while the colonialism of the rest of Palestine was continuing. A peaceful nation does not colonize its neighbors, in this case the Palestinians who have lived under Israel’s military occupation for 43 years now.
I don’t think anything will happen while Israel is preoccupied with eating up what remains of Palestine.
PS: And one more point. If the US or Israel attacks Iran, Obama is finished and can kiss the second term goodbye. My only problem with Obama is that I don’t really think he has the power to stop Israel if it wishes to take the chance on smacking Iran.
After Booman’s earlier analogy, while we would all have problems with our president being Netanyahu’s poodle, is he one? Well, he seems to be acting like one.
If Israel attacks Iran, and the US doesn’t engage Iran in offensive military actions, Obama loses nothing and possibly gains a two-state solution and weakened Iran as an eventual outcome. The only votes he’d lose would be people who wouldn’t vote for him anyway. An American hold-and-damage-control response is the most likely American response to an Israeli attack, and it is likely the way it has been wargamed already in the Pentagon. We have 60 year containment tradition for crisis control and geopolitical strategy in our national security policy, and that view is likely to carry the day with the current high command of secretaries, advisors and generals that MeCyrstal infamously dissed. It’s an outcome that Obama would never seek for obvious moral reasons, but it is not an outcome with a lot of downside for Obama as far as domestic voting goes.
But you left Iran and its reaction out of the equation, which was my point.
When gas goes to $5 or 7 bucks a gallon, woe is me. Americans will turn their preoccupations away from Paris Hilton to paying at the pump. And who will get the blame? Ask Jimmy Carter.
You are completely wrong. See my comment above. If Israel attacks, the rest of the world will see it as implied U.S. backing
I keep having to emphasize: do you really think Iran is just going to sit there and take it? I agree that anything Israel does implicates the US, and I’m afraid to say that will include the destruction of Israeli cities and the deaths of people. And it will likewise include the destruction of Iranian cities and a lot of their people.
Why does everyone underestimate the Persians? Didn’t they have a lot to do with developing algebra?
If Iran truly has the capability of destroying Israeli cities now, as opposed to just a few errant bombs falling from inaccurate rockets as Israel is already well accustomed to, then the world can rest assured that even Likud won’t attack Iran. But I don’t think Iran has that capability now, and the problem is that it makes sense (albeit perverse) from a Likudnik perspective to do even very risky things to try to stop that from ever happening. And the problem is exacerbated by the (also perverse) sense it makes for the US to not try too hard to stop Likud from engaging in risky, potentially self destructive behavior. Both Likud and Ahmadinejad are both enemies of the Obama adminstration, we have to remember, and the empire-management 101 textbook (i.e., realist IR theory, which is the opposite of what neocons advocate even if it is essentially Machiavellian) says it’s often best to just let your enemies shoot at each other if they really want to rather than risking your own resources to try to stop them.
This report is dated 2006, four years ago. There are more uptodate ones I’ve read, and can be easily found.
This might be one reason.
Theocracy is apparently no bar to modernity as far as technology is concerned. Anyone who believes that Iran is a backward nation because of its religious extremism is deceived.
That’s exactly right, but nonetheless it provides a compelling, even if mistaken, reason for many people to underestimate them.
I agree with you. The Persians are a very proud people. Condemning them for their leadership would be like the rest of the world condemning us for Dubya.
And they did condemn us for Dubya, and it was hard to disagree with them. It doesn’t mean it’s right, but stoning adultresses and executing gay teens doesn’t provide compelling evidence that Iran is modern nation in a global society now predicated upon Western modernity.
And did anyone actually invade us because of our shortcomings? Or put it another way, everyone knows Israel has nuclear weapons, and yet we say Iran can’t have them? Isn’t that a double standard?
Of what importance in all of this are double standards? You speak as if you thought double standards were extraordinary things in international relations.
I’m afraid that Obama’s offshore drilling policy is a harbinger of his Mideast policy.
It was clear that at the very least, new leases shouldn’t have been offered. But Obama appointed a centrist Interior secretary, kept many of the same people in place, declined to do an objective, independent assessment of the issue (which would have demanded real change) and punted. Soon after he opened up new areas to drilling, DeepWater blew up.
I think he’s playing the Israel/Palestine/Iran situation the same way and I predict the same result.
I have faith in Obama that if Israel did attack, it would not have the US’s word; they would have done so without his word, behind his back, etc.
Does that matter, though? Ultimately, no. Obama would have no choice but to back them if they attacked, both politically and logically.
Politically: he’d get his ass kicked every which way. I don’t care how tired America is of war, we’re always ready to start a new one because of some scary brown people.
Logically: Congress would override anything he did in the negative towards Israel anyway. So if he said “I condemn these attacks and don’t support Israel in this endeavor,” Congress would just tell him to fuck himself and go without him. Then you’d be right back to the political aspect.
Netanyahu’s got the administration by the balls; Congress knows it, Netanyahu knows it, and Obama knows it. I hope he finds a way to take them back from this hawk’s talons, because even I don’t see a way at this point.
So that’s domestic. Foreign? No one would believe Israel acted unilaterally, even if that’s what happened. Not Europe, not NATO, certainly not the Middle East and South Asia.
If Israel attacks, well, I don’t think peace will be possible in my lifetime. And I had high hopes in this regard, as Israel has more or less pushed themselves into a small tiny corner.
So you are basically saying we are AIPAC’s, and Israel’s, bitch, right?
More or less. Which is sad, because I think their power is vastly overstated, and I think a lot of the blame where it should lie –with the American Congress–gets taken away. And, I think a lot of the condemnation of The Lobby is antisemitism, but with friends over at the ADL, who needs the bigots, amirite?
Obama did that back in 2004. “Hey, I’m sorry I haven’t said more about Palestine right now, but we are in a tough primary race. I’m hoping when things calm down I can be more up front.”
Nothing but cowardice and shirking responsibility.
He knows better, too:
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“I think a lot of the blame where it should lie –with the American Congress–gets taken away. And, I think a lot of the condemnation of The Lobby is antisemitism”
Try reading Mearshirmer and Walt before making such ridiculous statements. Certainly the Lobby itself does everything it can to keep quiet the behind the scenes work of the Lobby, and probably the oldest and most frequently used tactic is to claim that criticism of the Lobby is just “anti-Semitism.” As Martin Indyk of the Saban Institute even once claimed, in a debate with Mearshirmer, there is no Lobby. Even mentioning the Lobby is anti-Semitic.
It’s not a ridiculous statement at all. In fact, As’ad Abukhalil agrees with me:
Not getting your point. A questioner mentioned anti-Semiticism, in response to AbuKhalil statements, but does that make him anti-Semitic? And why would anyone then claim that anyone who criticizes Israel is anti-Semitic. That’s part and parcel of Israeli propaganda, used to attempt to nullify criticism of the continuing colonization of Palestinian lands, even the Jim Crow segregations that exists inside of Israel proper.
Your remarks parrot the same one that can be found on many liberal sites, voiced by right wing Zionists who man the airwaves, defending Israel, even its occupation and colonialism.
Yeah, you’re right; it’s clear you’re not getting my point.
I’m not sure how else I can say it if As’ad saying it doesn’t clear it up.
Let me go over what you just said, and then respond again with what I am trying to say:
If you didn’t watch what the questioner said with her first question (what you saw was As’ads response and her continued blathering), you’d understand better.
The questioner was clearly an anti-Semite, in my opinion. I think As’ad tried to allude that this is what he thought as well, without offending her or being upfront. A lot of what she said was about Zionists ruling the world, corporations, New World Order; stuff along those lines.
I was NOT saying As’ad was an anti-Semite. I don’t know how it came across that way. My point was that As’ad agrees with me that a lot of the laying the blame at the feet of the Lobby is a ruse, and some of it is shrouded in antisemitism. As’ad and I both agree that the Lobby is powerful and don’t underestimate its power, but we also do not think for a second that if the Lobby was gone that a lot of American foreign policy would be that much different. We both believe that there are other elements–war profiteering especially–that push our policy towards approaching an Empire (some would argue that we ARE an empire, but I don’t think we are…yet). As As’ad says:
“As they argue, ‘America’s foreign policy is great if it wasn’t for that Israeli lobby or some Jewish conspiracy.’ So I believe that, no, American foreign policy is a responsibility of the US, and I don’t believe that Bush or Obama are dragged by the Zionists kicking and screaming.”
The imperialists in the Pentagon and the State Department — those of the new world order meme, generally realists who learned policy from SAIS by people who did foreign policy under Reagan and Carter — despise Israel because Israel makes empire-management so problematic. Israel is a problem, not an asset, to them. If Israel were off the list of things to worry about, US foreign policy in the Middle East would be radically different and much less hostile.
Empire and Israel are separate issues, even if Israel is one example of US imperialism. Because Israel costs more to manage than it provides in benefits, the only reason we sponsor Israel is because of our collective national values, values given voice because of domestic interests in support of Israel as a national project, like going to the moon was once a national project. Without Israel, we would still be an empire, but it would be an empire much easier to manage and with fewer people getting hurt.
What is the value that Israel represents and which we support? That there exists a place in the world where those Jews whom nobody wants — the bottom 2/3 who aren’t the better educated, upwardly mobile Jews that can obtain visas to migrate to America — can live and be safe when despots somewhere in the world start killing them again.
So from this isolated interaction you have concluded ERGO that it is evidence that criticism of Israel is anti-Semitic, or at least a lot of it is, to quote your earlier phrase.
That’s what right wing Zionists, those who man the internet for the purpose of defending Israel, say, and say, and say. I guess they believe if they repeat it enough times, it will become the truth.
No, and if you’re going to continue with these strawmen, then I am done discussing this. I’ve made my point clear, and I don’t know how, for the life of me, you’ve made this conclusion when I cite As’ad Abukhalil as my evidence; a man with whom shares a lot of my views regarding the ME and Israel.
You can stop here: “And, I think a lot of the condemnation of The Lobby is antisemitism”
Well, yes.
Maybe it’s time for America to set aside the framework that it has the capacity and right to impose foreign policy outcomes-like “peace” or “democracy” worldwide. I don’t know, our record isn’t very good. Maybe Israel and Iran are just determined to have it out, and there’s not a lot we can do about it. Trying to put ourselves in the middle of it seems to only exacerbate the situation, and has the potential to gravely hurt our interests.
I dearly hope the administration is telling Israel very clearly what it’s actions will be should they unilaterally attack Iran. But then, what did we think they were going to do with all those F-15s and 16s we’ve been selling them?