One day, probably two years ago now, I had a devil of a time getting out of Manhattan because traffic across the island was obstructed by the Pakistan Day Parade. Apparently, this parade has been an annual event for the last twenty-five years. I had never heard of it before, as it gets much less press than the annual Puerto Rican and Irish parades. Regardless, the Pakistan Day Parade is now an institution in New York City and no one seems to mind aside from the hassle that all such parades present for crosstown traffic.
Maybe I just take things a bit personally since I consider New York City to be my hometown (having grown up in its media market), but otherness is celebrated in the Big Apple, not demonized. Two of New York’s most enduring symbols are the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island, both of which point to the generations of unwashed immigrants who have come to our shores and peopled our country. One of my great-grandfathers came to Ellis Island from northern Italy and signed his name with an ‘x’ because he was illiterate. They asked him the name of his hometown and used that for his new surname. I doubt that he spoke a lick of English and he wasn’t a Protestant like most of the people then living in this country. I have other ancestors that came on the Mayflower, so how much of me is a ‘Real American’?
The Republicans must stop setting Americans against each other. New Yorkers are proud of their diversity and their tolerance, but take a look at what’s happening in Gotham now:
That’s not New York. That’s the opposite of New York
What part of Italy? My relatives came roughly around the same time from Abruzzo.
Apparently the rest were killed in an earthquake, but my aunt found one remaining somewhere the last time she went over there.
Has anybody tried to determine how many of these screaming asswipes are New Yorkers? I’d bet they don’t even make up a majority of the whining losers.
They could be from Staten Island. Hell, they probably are from Staten Island….
Yes, I’d put money on them being from Staten Island.
as New Yorkers.
That’s the giant garbage dump, right? Seems appropriate.
THe persistent attempt to get the ‘Mosque Supports Hamas” sign before the camera goes a lot deeper about the uses of this Islamophobic episode than just the GOP looking to develop another hate issue to attract voters.
I’m a native of New York City and we’ve always had our share of jerks. The asshole in the hardhat is no different from the assholes in hardhats who harassed us when we marched against the war in Vietnam.
Absolutely. While marching against the war in Vietnam in 1971 down Sixth Avenue, we had the distinct honor of having eggs and some other rather disgusting material dropped on our heads by hardhats working 10 stories up. And several among us were Vietnam vets who were protesting the war, a couple of whom had to be restrained from going up those 10 stories to confront the construction workers with questions about THEIR draft status.
Just have to share this deep discussion of the Mosque topic by Juan Cole. Sorry about the length; permission granted.
What would Martin Luther King Say? Mosques and the New Jim Crow in America
August 23, 2010 by Juan Cole
Boo, I share your feelings about NYC and your current outrage in flyover and asswipe America (not to slight everyone there as our roots are there too) over what residence in NYC might want to allow (heaven forbid we question a bridge in Alaska or 4 lane to Altoona).
But also keep in mind that NYC has a long history of race riots and violence against minorities going back centuries. Great grandpa didn’t have it easy. Buttheads are accepted and even embraced in NYC as part of the spirit of diversity (see New Yorker sean Hannity)
New Yorkers sometimes fight each other, but they always digest newcomers. And Manhattan is different from Staten Island or Crown Heights. I can’t remember a race riot in Manhattan. I guess there was some ordeal between blacks and Koreans in Harlem sometime in the 1990’s, but I can’t even remember the details. When I walk in Central Park, English may be the most common language I hear but it makes up less than half of what I hear. It’s an international island.
Based on my experiences and observations at the airport every time I am forced to re-enter the country via New York as opposed to any other city, I find it difficult to believe that New Yorkers are OK with newcomers. They treat re-entering American citizens like shit, and based on what I have seen they are even less welcoming to non-citizens. I had an experience last year trying to help a young (Christian) woman from Syria who spoke no English with a very minor problem that should have been easily solved. Those nice, tolerant New Yorkers would just as soon have shipped her back to Syria than take the very simple steps needed to solve the problem. Fortunately, I had several hours between flights, and can be fairly – ummm – “persistent” when enough is at stake, so they did not succeed in getting rid of her.
nah, that’s just TSA (total stupid assholes). TSA treats everyone like shit. Here in Philly, they’re always getting written up in the newspaper for abusing this person or that.
Actually, I have been treated courteously, and at times almost apologetically by the TSA in other cities than New York, so I don’t buy it. To fly into New York is to be subjected to several layers of abuse.
Booman, I agree with the main thrust of your point. As for race riots in Manhattan, there were major riots (death and destruction) in Harlem in 1935, 1943 and 1964—not to mention the blackout of 1977 across the entire city.
Going back to the 19th century, the largest and deadliest riot in US history (still) was the 1863 draft riot, put down by US troops rushed by train from the battlefield at Gettysburg.
The late, great Harold Washington, when he was preparing to run for mayor of Chicago said words to this effect: “This is America—where anyone can walk up to that door, knock it down (!), and claim a seat at the table.”
It’s a robust and pugilistic vision of the American dream. But then, he was trying simultaneously to fire up his supporters and to steel them for the struggle to elect the first African-American mayor of one of America’s most segregated cities.
Washington’s Chicago has much in common with New York City. Nobody’s going to give you anything—starting with a seat on the bus, or even space to walk down the sidewalk. But every morning it starts again: you can get up, go outside, and fight for your place in the city. If you do, most people will respect you (whether they like you or not).
Yup. Said well. Those are the event and the thinking I had in mind. That said I don’t have a big problem with a pugilistic diversity. Have to earn a seat at the table, with clear and mostly fair rules, even if they are tough beats tyranny of the majority or handing anyone and everyone everything.
Right, but I was born in 1969 and don’t remember anything prior to 1972. It’s been a long time since Manhattan had a full-on race riot.
Not a race riot, and not about religion, but you have to be aware of 1970 and the Hard Hat Riot — and example of intolerance of otherness of political belief.
Happened just days after Kent State, with hundreds of pro-war NY construction workers showing up to counter-demonstrate — aggressively and loudly — against antiwar protesters. Some hard hats attacked the peaceful antiwar group; dozens injured. Quite an ugly incident in the history of that city.
It’s not a news flash that the country was badly divided by the Vietnam War. Just looking at the clash at Columbia should put that debate to rest.
Haha, that’s going to be a hoot and a half when the righties catch on to that.
Anyhow I am clearly more of a real American than BooMan. My ancestors are Mesoamericans and Spaniards (maybe some Arab and Berber in there too, you never know) and my family were part of the original Texas annexations by the US.
At this point NYC is as much of a brand as it is an actual place & the Right has attempted to own the brand since 9/11.
The actual place is even beside the point.
Jeez, I hope he wasn’t originally named “Vito Andolini”….
“The Republicans must stop setting Americans against each other.“
Oh, please! Stop putting this all on the Republicans. There are more than enough Democrats who are happy to display their clueless bigotry on this issue, and not all of them are politicians, either. The fact that for the most part they are a bit more sophisticated in the way they state things does not make them better than the brute in the hard hat.
In fact, even some of them who say they are not opposed to the building of the not-at-ground-zero-non-mosque end up exhibiting their true sentiments in roundabout ways. Like the local, very liberal, and generally decent radio talk host who the other day kept justifying his support for the not-at-ground-zero-non-mosque by saying Americans need to show forgiveness – as if the people planning the Center, and the community it is intended to serve, not to mention Muslims in general, have done something for which they need to be forgiven. Well, you know, not ALL Muslims are bad people, after all.
Anti-Islamism did not begin with 9/11, and it is looking more and more clearly like the 21st century’s version of anti-Semitism.
But anti-Islamism and anti-Semitism (cultural and religious) are forms of Christian bigotry. And not the only forms of Christian bigotry in the US. Nor are Christians the only bigots in the US.
A Daily Kos diary, DEVELOPING: Ground Zero Mosque brought to you by DC Lobbyist firm, ties to “King Birther” Gaffney, follows the money and domain name trail in this issue.
The site stopthe911mosque.com is registered to Frank Gaffney’s Center for Security Policy an astroturf lobbying firm (“think tank”) funded in part by the Koch brothers, billionaire shareholders in the oil firm Koch industries.
BTW, it turns out that centerforsecuritypolicy.org was registered August 6, 2001. That should stir up the “truthers” again, shouldn’t it.
BooMan thank you so much for posting this horrible video.
I love New York, but this is not the New York that I love.
In a city the size of NY, it would be remarkable indeed if there wasn’t that 20% or so of knuckledragging bigots in its population. I believe NYC is different from other places in so many respects, but just not in the area of being completely free of prejudice against otherness of race, ethnicity, religion or political belief.
Re anti-Muslim attitudes there, I recall fairly vividly the post-911 concert held in the city for the first responders and their families. Among the many stars who showed up to lend support was peace advocate actor Richard Gere who walked out on stage to make a few brief comments, which included at one point a sincere appeal that our country not tarnish the entire world of Islam with the brush of Al Queda. He was greeted with very robust booing from what sounded like a large number of the first-responder audience.
I’d like to think that in terms of religious tolerance, the vast majority of NYers reflect the noble sentiments of the current mayor Bloomberg. But it’s also important to acknowledge this is also the same city that elected an intolerant Rudy Giuliani several times.