I haven’t forgotten it, though the NRA would like me too. They don’t want any limits on extended clips for semiautomatic guns. They don’t want any legislation to eliminate the massive loopholes to our gun check laws, loopholes that make it easy for criminals, Mexican drug cartels, people with well known histories of mental or emotional disorders, people with histories involving violent behavior such as domestic abuse to obtain Guns.
The NRA wants us to forget that mentally unbalanced people like Nidal Malik Hasan and Jared Lee Loughner, both of whom gave off numerous warning signs that they would commit violent acts if given the opportunity were able to walk into a gun store and purchase weapons of mass murder as easily as you and I shop for groceries. The NRA wants us to forget that an Alaskan militia that bragged about their desire to kill government and law enforcement officials were able obtained a large cache of arms. They want you to forget that the Huttaree militia planned a wave of robberies and killings
The people of Tucson, however have not forgotten, either:
Listen closely. I don’t want to take away anyone’s guns. I don’t want people who enjoy hunting or target shooting from owning guns. I don’t want anyone without a criminal record or a history of violence and mental disorders from obtaining guns. I just want reasonable, responsible gun laws. I want laws that make it harder for crazy people and criminals to obtain weapons at gun shows or through other “private sales.” I want background checks strengthened, not weakened.
I don’t want extended gun clips that now can hold as many as thirty or more bullets. I don’t want the NRA and gun manufacturers telling me that we need more guns, not less, until we have a pistol in every grandmother’s purse or a Glock in every teenager’s bedroom. I don’t want guns in schools or places that sell alcoholic beverages. I especially don’t want a bunch of fanatics and corporations that manufacture guns intimidating our politicians and spreading lies that the government wants to take their guns or that the number of people killed by guns in America is just the price we pay for our freedoms.
I don’t want the people who died at Ft. Hood or Tucson or Virginia Tech to be forgotten. I don’t want the many known suicidally depressed people in our country owning guns, guns that they all too often use on themselves and also on family members.
And you know, I bet a lot of people agree with me, even many gun owners. Even many members of the NRA.
One gun can kill more people far easily that any knives, tasers or other means of “self defense” a person may own. That’s a fact, Jack. How many people would have died at Ft. Hood of in Tucson if Nidal Malik Hasan and Jared Lee Loughner had been unable to obtain semiautomatic weapons and been forced to resort to knives or swords or clubs? How many inner city gangs would be able to obtain guns from straw man purchasers if we actually cracked down on the people who sell guns to them.
After all we passed laws cracking down on drunk drivers and that has saved lives. We made wearing wearing seat belts mandatory for everyone and that has saved lives. We have laws that make it mandatory for people to pass tests demonstrating that they know the laws about driving and can pass a driving test before being allowed to drive on eon our streets and roads and that has saved lives. Those were all reasonable restrictions on the right to own or operate a motor vehicle on our roads and highways. Yet we allow anyone to buy a gun at a gun show in a “private sale” without a background check. Does that make any sense to you, because it doesn’t to me.
We even have checks on our greatest freedom, the right to free speech. We don’t permit people to incite a riot with violent rhetoric or threaten the lives of others or permit them to spread lies and slanders against innocent people and allow them to claim that their speech is protected by the first amendment. We recognize that when it comes to free speech, that right also comes with great responsibilities. Shouldn’t the second amendment also be subject to similar rational restrictions in the interest of public safety and the general welfare of the people?
No law can be a panacea for the the plague of gun violence in our country, but every life is precious, or at least that’s what the Pro-Life people say. So I say to all of you, if stricter laws and stricter enforcement of existing laws make harder for criminals, mentally unstable individuals and individuals with a history of violence (or those who make threats of violence against others) were passed and enforced, even if they only saved one life, wouldn’t that be worth it? If the gun show/private sale loophole to our current system of background checks was eliminated, would that really infringe on the rights of the vast majority of gun owners who are responsible citizens? If extended gun clips for semi-automatic weapons were restricted to a no more than ten bullets would that really violate your rights under the Second Amendment?
Think before you answer “no” to those questions, because as the old public service slogan about using seat belts (or driving drunk) says “the life you save could be your own.”
Sorry, Steven. Nothing is going to be done. More will die. There will be several school massacres this year. Nothing will be done. Insane clowns will kill dozens at a mall. Nothing will happen, except the NRA will say that it is not the guns. Children will kill other children, and the NRA will say that the gun is not the problem.
Nope, nothing will happen.
The other day on NPR, there was a story about a military guy who had both PTSD and a clear schizophrenic episode (and I know from clear, here). He was sent to treatment facility. Nothing helped. He was sent home to the trailer his father lived in. The father had six guns, including some very advanced military-style ordinance. And you’ll never in a MILLION YEARS guess what happened? NEVER!! You would NEVER guess that this schizophrenic highly-trained military person would end up in a shooting standoff with cops.
Not even NPR questioned the presence of guns at a house with a schizophrenic military guy.
I have to try. Nothing changes without effort. Will anything happen this year, the next year, the year after that? No.
But I’ll keep trying anyway.
I used to care about this issue. But only three things will happen with gun control. More people will be slaughtered, every year. And gun laws will get laxer and laxer. Democrats who advocate responsible gun laws will lose their elections.
Take the obvious situation where the US gun shops are supplying the insane drug wars in Mexico. The evidence here is simply cold dead certain. And yet morons who support the NRA and the RKBA oppose even learning about this. Before I got booted at DK, I used to “debate” the RKBA thugs. Even there it is thug city to even say “gun advocates should advocate responsibility”.
I admire your interest here. But it is a useless waste of time and effort and PASSION.
But, Steven, if you limit gun clips to only ten bullets, then, how can a man (it always seems to be men involved in these murderous rampages) really vent his anger? The business of America is business and the sacred deity of this land is profits. That Christianity bit is just an illusion. So when people sell extended gun clips and automatic weapons to others they are just doing what is natural for American businessmen. Oh, the fatalities and what not? Just collateral damage from exercising a basic right protected, as you know, by the US Constitution. My only question is how do people in this nation sleep at night?
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gun nutsSecond Amendment supporters will guarantee that nothing gets done.I do not own any type of fire arm. Every wing nut and veteran I work with has between two and ten. I may buy a weapon to protect myself from them. These assholes are crazy. I want to be in a position to return fire if they bring down this democracy. To be replaced with a military dictatorship or a one party fascist regime. We may already be there and its nerve racking not being armed. The Repugs are fully loaded think about that. We may have no choice.
fortunately, it is very easy to acquire a gun if you ever need one.
Hopefully the Repugs are too lazy for armed conflict. I know I am plus I need to loose a lot of weight before the civil war. Just sayin.
damn make that “lose” weight. We need more intuitive spell checks too!
Hey, Salunga, where can I get one of those “intuitive spell checks”? Sounds like a great idea!
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