While it’s the Republicans who keep bewailing their presidential candidates, a new Gallup poll is excellent news for whichever crackpot or pretend-crackpot wins the Republican nomination:
In thinking about the 2012 presidential election, 45% of Democrats and independents who lean Democratic say they are more enthusiastic about voting than usual, while nearly as many, 44%, are less enthusiastic. This is in sharp contrast to 2008 and, to a lesser extent, 2004, when the great majority of Democrats expressed heightened enthusiasm about voting.
That enthusiasm peaked at 73 percent in 2004 and 79 percent in 2008. This week’s numbers look more like 2000, when “more enthusiastic” Democratic responders peaked at 40 percent. That enthusiasm gap – far more than Ralph Nader’s two percent – cost Al Gore an election he should have won in a walk, in a time with the most peace and prosperity the U.S. has seen in a generation (at least). Obama, needless to say, doesn’t have that advantage.
It gets worse:
The difference between Democrats’ enthusiasm and Republicans’ enthusiasm can be summarized by plotting the difference in the two groups’ net enthusiasm scores — that is, the percentage of each group saying they are more enthusiastic minus the percentage less enthusiastic.
Democrats’ net enthusiasm (+1) now trails Republicans’ net enthusiasm (+28) by 27 percentage points. By contrast, Democrats held the advantage on net enthusiasm throughout 2008 — on several occasions, by better than 40-point margins….The current balance of enthusiasm among Republicans and Democrats is similar to what Gallup found in the first few months of 2000.
This seems, basically, like a quantification of common sense. It’s no secret that Obama isn’t firing up his base, which is angry with him for any number of reasons above and beyond the ongoing financial morass which would normally doom any re-election effort. We’ve seen it in this past month in the tepid public response to the Obama jobs bill. The White House has been trying without a lot of real visible success to whip up both public and congressional enthusiasm for Obama’s bill – a program which, while constrained by both Obama’s temperment and political reality, would still do a lot to improve many real lives in concrete, meaningful ways.
Meanwhile, the Occupy Wall Street protests, which have generally involved a few hundred people at a time, have been sucking up enormous progressive media oxygen, pro and con, in the last week – far more than the jobs bill is getting, for an action that has no concrete outcome in mind and that will, even if highly successful, directly, materially improve the lives of nobody. (It would make some of us feel better, however…)
There are a lot of reasons for this contrasting reception. Probably the biggest was teased out by another recent Gallup poll: a record number of Americans, not just those on the right, no longer thinks government can solve our problems. That isn’t just necessarily an ideological disposition: it is also, among many on the left, an assessment that the Democrats, as now personified by Obama, can’t solve our problems, and the Republicans, as personified by an endless teevee parade of lunatics treated as though they are sober and sane, could not care less about them.
Candidate Obama in 2008 was the best example in a generation of the political truism that optimism sells. In 2012, nobody is optimistic. Both Obama and his eventual opponent will be running primarily on the appeal that they’re not their opponent. The difference is that for the Republican nominee, anybody other than Romney or Huntsman will have an enthusiastic base who knows, despite the general election nods to centrism, that He (or She) Is One Of Us.
In 2011, almost nobody is saying that about Obama. Now, 12 months is a long time in politics, and Obama will have a lot of money to polish his image. He is a prodigiously talented campaigner, too. But most Americans’ impressions of him, for better or worse, are pretty set at this point – a point in which Democrats are a lot less enthusiastic about their guy than Republicans are about whomever their nominee might be. And if poll results hold, it’s also bad news for the Democrats’ hopes of holding onto either the House or Senate.
Unless Obama can change a lot of perceptions of him in the next year, the fact that electing a Republican is the surest way to destroy what’s left of the economic well-being of most of the country won’t be just Obama’s best argument. It will be his only argument.
What’s the point of living then?
If the Democrats lose in 2012 because the so-called “base” is dispirited, I hope the Democrats go into the market for a new base. If the base isn’t going to help the party defeat the greatest political evil of a generation, what good are they?
” If the base isn’t going to help the party defeat the greatest political evil of a generation, what good are they?”
I think that’s exactly the question.
For Sending A Message, that’s what. And isn’t that what politics is about at the end of the day, isn’t it?
I mean, it’s not like politics is about policies. It’s about feelings. How I feel. About me. And the world I live in. And telling people about that, by my choices in
consumer goodspoliticians?This is the BRILLIANT strategy that Obama has been charting to much failure. Obama has been trying to make the new D party base a bunch of “sensible,” “moderate” “adults” who don’t stand for politics. Who knew that the purple people eater strategy would ever become a political strategy? It sounds stupid in theory (to me) and it has turned out to be political malpractice. But hope springs eternal when it doesn’t hit the fan.
I think the democratic party can not be lost
I agree with the central point here: absent increased voter enthusiasm, Obama doesn’t have much of a chance next November.
But I’d suggest that enthusiasm is a second order factor. First, if unemployment drops below 8% by September, and median personal income rises a few percentage points in the next 12 months, Obama’s reelection chances increase dramatically and, I would wager, Democratic voter enthusiasm would increase significantly as a result.
Second, it’s almost always easier to be enthusiastic about “throwing those bums out”, than it is to be about keeping a decent pol in office. So “out party” voters will tend to have higher enthusiasm than incumbent party voters.
are not the problem. Obama’s performance is what has the electorate dispirited.
Can you picture yourself in a crowd chanting “four more years”? And how will Obama answer the question: Are you better off now than you were four years ago?
Obama campaigned on “change” and gave us Bush III instead.
Almost nobody outside the internet left – a vanishingly small segment of the electorate – believes that Obama is remotely comparable to Bush.
Actually, I have seen quite a few crowds of late chanting precisely that, or variations on the theme. The Dem base needs to come to terms with the uncomfortable reality that if the Democrats lose in 2012 there may not be a recognizable America left to save with “real democrats” later. The opposing parties in Germany in the early 1930s were far from perfect, but they were a damn sight better than the brownshirts that took over the country. That is precisely where we are at today.
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Who cares if they lose? Think of the powerful message that would send. We’d never be ignored again, by God.
cost Al Gore an election he should have won in a walk, in a time with the most peace and prosperity the U.S. has seen in a generation (at least).
I disagree with this. The assumption is that a sitting Vice President enjoys an incumbency advantage when he runs to replace an outgoing President. If you look at the history, however, that’s not how it works. Gore lost. Bush won. Humphrey lost. Nixon lost.
Since World War Two, the voters have given the same party the White House three times in a row exactly once. The public gets sick of the ruling party and wants a change, even in good times. The sins of the governing party are right before them, while those of the opposition party are in the past. Meanwhile, whatever good impressions have accrued from that President’s term accrue to him personally, rather than to his party or V.P.
If anything, I think I sitting Vice President actually has a handicap in running for the top spot.
Why would we compare Democratic vs. Republican enthusiasm this year to 2008, instead of 2007? Voter enthusiasm is always higher when there is an actual opponent to run against. In 2008, both sides had that. In 2011, only the Republicans can get fired up about voting against Obama.
OK,finally a comment that said what I was going to say. Thanks Joe, obviously I agree with you. The most important point in this post is “Now 12 months is a long time in politics …” especially when Obama has barely begun campaigning yet.
Uhm, Nader was partially responsible for the enthusiasm gap in 2000. He ran copious ads directly saying that democrats and republicans were exactly the same, and this theme was picked up by everyone in the media. To imply that Nader wasn’t a major factor because of the enthusiasm gap is to forget what was happening during that entire campaign.
Which is why every GOP and firebagger troll is pushing the “They are both the same” nonsense non stop at the moment on message blogs.
we’re in a ping pong period. our politics and politicians are so corrupted by the influence of money that they are incapable of solving the problems our country has, because that would mean campaign finance reform, which won’t happen because our politics and politicians are so corrupted by the influence of money that they are incapable of solving the problems our country has, because that would mean campaign finance reform, which won’t happen because our politics and politicians are so corrupted by the influence of money that they are incapable of solving the problems our country has, because that would mean campaign finance reform, which won’t happen because…
so we’re left with “the republicans didn’t solve the problem, throw the bums out!”, followed by “the democrats didn’t solve the problem, throw the bums out”, followed by “the republicans didn’t solve the problem, throw the bums out!”, followed by “the democrats didn’t solve the problem, throw the bums out”, and so on and so forth.
Brendan:
Why is it you are the only one to grasp why, and how often times, people vote? Saying “I’m an asshole, but the other guy is a bigger asshole” is not going to drive people to the polls. Why people don’t understand that bugs the hell out of me. And it’s not just the “Clap Louder!!” folks either.
it’s just human nature. we have two choices, and when one doesn’t seem to be working, we try the other. And if that one doesn’t work, well we’re back to the first choice again; the one which we know from experience doesn’t work.
i find it fascinating that, given this state of affairs, booman and many of the posters here don’t grasp why young people are turning their backs on electoral politics.
humans are creative and curious people. you can’t tell us “you only have these two choices, both of them bad, one worse” and expect them to start looking for something else.
that should be “us”.
And mind you I’m not necessarily endorsing this, just describing it.
I understand it.
It’s still primarily the Republicans’ fault, and they’re still the greatest threat facing the country, not the Pretzel Guy on Liberty Street.
as you well know, no one is protesting the pretzel guy (unless you have a link that backs up your claim). Why would you stoop to making such an untrue remark, unless you really DON’T understand what’s going on?
They are protesting the bankers, who “own the place” as Dick Durbin admitted.
It’s growing and spreading. I’m sorry if you don’t understand it, but that’s no reason to make silly remakrs like “they’re protesting the pretzel guy.” that doesn’t undermine the 99%ers. that only serves to make you look petty and out of touch.
they’re not protesting the pretzel guy. They’re keeping him from his loyal customers.
actually also not true.
But it’s interesting that you see a bankster’s convenient access to a pretzel as more of a problem than grassroots protest.
You love the grassroots when you want votes… and then you want them to shut up. Typical democrat.
i mean shit man, there are kids being arrested on the brooklyn bridge protesting their condition and your reaction is “of the pretzel guy lost business”.
he probably actually had a good week due to all the extra people. and the pretzel guy is on their side too.
when’s the last time YOU got arrested for something you cared about? who are YOU to make snide remarks?