Pretend you’re an insurance agent. Someone comes to you and wants to buy fire insurance for their home. Upon questioning, you realize that their home is actually on fire as you speak. Do you sell that individual fire insurance at any price? Of course not. He has a pre-existing condition (his house is on fire), and there is no rate you could set that would possibly be profitable to your company unless that rate were more than what it would cost to repair the home. And, in that case, it would be cheaper for your customer to repair his home himself than to ask you to do it for him. You don’t sell insurance against things that have already happened.
But what if the government came along, as it did in Washington state in 1993, and said that your insurance company must provide health insurance to everyone who applies for it even if they have diabetes or cancer or Lou Gehrig’s disease? Wouldn’t that just put your company out of business? The answer is, yes, that would put your company out of business unless it refused to sell any more health insurance policies in that state. And that’s what happened in Washington state, where by 1999 it was no longer possible to buy an individual policy. Was the Washington state legislature really that stupid and short-sighted? Well, not exactly.
The original plan was to have an individual mandate, just like the one in the president’s Affordable Care Act. But when the Republicans took control of the state legislature after the 1994 elections, they got rid of the mandate without getting rid of the provision that the insurance companies must accept all applicants. Why did spiking the mandate wind up destroying the individual market for insurance in the whole state? Because the mandate assured that the insurance companies would have hundreds of thousands of new healthy customers who would cost so little to insure that it would make it possible to cover cancer and diabetes patients and still be profitable. In fact, this is the only way anyone has been able to come with that we can cover everyone with private insurance without bankrupting the insurance industry or having everyone pay impossibly high rates.
Speculation is running high that the Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS) will soon strike down the individual mandate in the president’s Affordable Care Act. If they do, they will leave us no option but to create a Medicate For All plan. And this is true whether they let the rest of the Act stand or they strike the whole thing from the books.
If the SCOTUS rules that the individual mandate is unconstitutional, it will destroy the only private means anyone has come up with to make sure that everyone can have access to medical care. Even if the subsides for the poor remain in place, meaning that no one will be denied care because they can’t afford it, the insurance companies can’t remain profitable if they are required to cover people with pre-existing conditions unless those costs are offset by tens of millions of relatively healthy customers. Ezra Klein provides proof of this here. This isn’t a matter of choice on the insurance industry’s part. It is just the nature of underwriting.
It is not possible to have a private health insurance industry that covers people with pre-existing conditions unless there is also an individual mandate requirement. Under those circumstances, the government would be forced to do away with its insistence that people with pre-existing conditions get coverage. And if the health care reforms don’t cover people with pre-existing conditions then not only will people with cancer and diabetes and other chronic diseases go bankrupt or go without treatment, but we won’t see any downward trend in the cost of health care. Without the mandate, people will wait until they get sick to seek insurance (which they will be denied) and treatment (which the insured will have to pay for with higher premiums). And we’ll go back to a system where getting sick while uninsured lands you in bankruptcy court.
In an attempt to avoid all this havoc, the SCOTUS could strike down the Affordable Care Act in its entirety. And then we will be left with all the old problems and no way to solve them through any kind of private-public partnership.
If only the mandate is struck down, or if the whole bill is struck down, we’ll have no other way forward but a single-payer system like Medicare. Without the mandate, private health insurance that covers everyone is impossible.
A Medicare for All system, on the other hand, has no need for private insurance companies. To be sure, they could still offer supplemental plans for those who want bells and whistles, but if people pay for their health care through taxes or tax withholdings, then we avoid any constitutional problem. We avoid any underwriting problem. People are covered regardless of whether or not they are employed or they’re sick.
But the most important thing is that, without the individual mandate, the left will have no other mechanism or avenue to push for if we want to make sure people get adequate health care. The Democrats will become the single-payer party. Is that what the conservative Justices on the Supreme Court want?
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Without the mandate and subsequently a functional Health Care system, the US will fall further and surely faster into a death spiral of American health which will pound our economy, education and global standing.
And without a big win in November, there will be no chance of a single payer fix in our lifetimes. It’s that simple.
With Ginsberg’s tea leaves this weekend and now Scalia comments from his book today, it ain’t lookin good.
I’d say it’s looking outright dismal for both the mandate and for any sort of public option plan…unless, as Booman says, we end up electing a hell of a lot of Ds.
Up until today I had an inkling of hope now I’m in abject terror of what’s about to happen.
Then you better not red Kevin Drum’s piece on this ubject today…
If they do, they will leave us no option but to create a Medicate For All plan.
Well, there is the option of the “Let ’em Die” plan the Republicans were cheering for in the primaries.
True…but unless the Democratic base starts showing a similar enthusiasm for the “Let ‘Em Die” plan, I doubt the Democratic Party will move in that direction.
As Tarheel Dem points out further down this thread, another advantage of being the “Medicare For All” party is that most Americans like Medicare.
Yup. The Democrats will “me, too” that.
Medicare for all?
From a party terrified of the shadow of its own New Deal and Great Society past?
Phooey.
Will they? I certainly hope you’re right, but I’m less sure of it than you are.
The Democrats will become the single-payer party. Is that what the conservative Justices on the Supreme Court want? I doubt they care very much, just as I doubt I’ll live to see single-payer.
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democrats say a lot of things during campaign season.
Card check, for example. That was fun, watching people get their hopes up.
Hey, what’s that? A Republican candidate doesn’t give a shit about the lives of cancer patients?!
Great news! Quick, let’s take advantage!
What? Oh…oh, some firebagging asshole decided to show up and bitch about Democrats instead? Well, that sure makes sense in this context, right? It’s just what the doctor ordered! Well played, brendan.
Well played.
Every though I agree with you, please don’t just throw ‘asshole’ around willy-nilly. It violates the policies of the site.
I apologize, but that was such a bizarre nonsequitur. Card check?
What?
He couldn’t have at least gone with the ol’ public option standby? Or at least something health care related?
In “A Brief History of Neoliberalism”, David Harvey discussed the dual loyalties of the Democratic Party over the last 30 years to its base (namely voters who still believe in the New Deal and Great Society, labor, civil rights, and so on) and the corporate interests that increasingly bankroll its candidates. One consequence – and it really didn’t take Harvey to make this point – is that its constituents receive mixed messages (e.g., promises that would seem consistent with what members of its base want, but lack of follow-through, as you are noting; or watered-down rhetoric that seems like a light version of what the GOP’s jet set wants). Under the circumstances, I can understand why those who might identify with its base would be skeptical about any Democratic promises for Single Payer, should such promises even be uttered in the first place. Card check was another example. It sure sounded nice, and would have been great if it had been allowed to happen.
Note, of course, that this is not to say that the DP is as bad as the GOP, or some such twaddle (those wishing to twist my words thusly or to imply that I am part of the minions of some rival gated community blog can kindly Cheney themselves), but merely to suggest that a party with a track record of conflicting loyalties is going to leave those whom it needs most – its base supporters – confused, cynical, and perhaps slightly less than enthusiastic. I doubt this will change in the foreseeable future, and I doubt that loyalists’ attempts at browbeating the skeptics into conformity and submission will help period.
Um, no offense, but the premise of this post has a gaping, gaping hole in the middle.
You’re focusing solely on nationwide possibilities. But there’s a reason that the Massachusetts mandate has passed the Roberts court’s “constitutional muster” (blech).
The constitutional challenge is to the federal government’s ability to mandate. The individual states can (and most will) do it for themselves if the ACA is struck down.
This whole thing boils down to southern states not wanting to provide care and coverage to minorities. There’s no honest objection to the mandate from the Right. If the Act should be hammered, we’re far more likely to see dozens of individual Massachusettses than nationwide single payer.
that’s not a hole because I’m talking about the national party and what official stance they will take if the mandate is struck down. Their official stance will be Medicare for All. That is won’t happen right away is beside the point. It will be the only way forward for the national party. They are not going to run on convincing the Alabama state legislature to create a Vermont system. Or even a Massachusetts system.
If the ACA is struck down, how does that affect the President’s chances in November? Invalidating the entire ACA seems like a writ-large version of the honking Romney bus or Munro’s interruption, i.e. organized ratfucking at every level–with Roberts, Alito, Thomas, Scalia, and Kennedy the ratfuckers-in-chief in this case.
And the GOP base will eat that shit up. Who cares who their candidate is, as long as Obama looks weak/foolish/beaten/etc. They will vote for whomever can promise to humiliate the president. The whole Obama term–well, the good parts of it–can then be cast as some freakish muslikenyasocialist aberration and subsequently totally devalued and reversed by a Romney administration. Blame all the bad stuff on the black guy and promise to never let that happen again.
Won’t this be a fun fall campaign season. Good goddamn.
It will mobilize both bases. It will probably motivate ours more because we didn’t get what we wanted.
But it will hand Romney a cudgel to beat us with. And it will be a heavy cudgel.
The thing that’s so frustrating to me is that it will effectively legitimize all the Tea Party griping about how anything Obama does is “unconstitutional.” All that bullshit whining about his DREAM executive order will be validated. All their bullshit whining will be validated, period. That’s completely unacceptable to me.
For better or worse, I feel like I’m the inverse of the GOP base; I will support anyone or anything who effectively ratfucks and humiliates the rabid right, be they Democrats or Socialists or Independents or Occupiers or Anonymous or whomever, and I’m not sorry about that. The Democrats embarrass me but I am sick to death of the GOP. Watching them lose is one of my favorite pastimes.
I’ve been telling the rightwingers that since they started whining about the ACA — the next step is that dreaded socialism.
I remain unconvinced they’ll strike it down because of the windfall it represents to their corporate buddies (4-5 of them anyway)in the insurance industry, as well as that “socialism” threat.
They are after all, quite the “political” body these days.
What parts of the Reform would remain in effect if the court zaps the individual mandate? Could the states still get funding to make their own systems? Surely even the scum majority would be able to foresee what happens if the mandate goes and the precondition clause remains. Their masters in the insurance branch of the oligarchy wouldn’t appreciate that. Or having to insure 24 year olds on their parents’ policy.
Just killing the mandate would bring on utter chaos. That’s not what the majority’s bosses want. So it seems to me they’ll destroy the whole thing and we’ll be back where we started, with the only hope of any remedy at all lying with the states — but that, too, will depend of federal funding.
Politically, there’s going to be shock and anger when folks see what’s been taken away. It’s almost inconceivable that there will be relief and cheers from anyone but the usual teabagger idiots, who don’t matter. Who took all the goodies away will be pretty easy for the Dems to point out if they don’t get infested with that “bipartisan” soul parasite again.
Your analogy’s a little off. A pre-existing condition with respect to your house burning down would be: “You house burned down before; therefore, we won’t insure you against future fires.”
If you have diabetes and you’re insured, it’s not as if you can say: “I have diabetes. You will now pay me X amount of dollars to make me whole.” That doesn’t happen. Rather, you’re insured for medical care going forward. Yes, you will presumably require more care going forward than someone without diabetes (unless that person then presents with diabetes), but that’s where the mandate comes in.
Well, the point is that if you need dialysis, that could easily run you $70,000/year for the remainder of your life. You are not insurable. What are you going to do? Pay them more than that in case something else goes wrong?
You don’t buy insurance when you’re on dialysis and people doesn’t sell it to you. It makes no sense on either end.
But we can pretend that you don’t cost $70,000/yr if we have enough healthy people in the system to carry you without losing money.
That’s why it is like waiting until your house is on fire to buy fire insurance.
There should be a means to make pre-existing workable. I’ve never been on a group policy that didn’t cover pre-existing, sometimes after a waiting period, provided you were covered by a policy before you started the new job.
Maybe we could have a window for everyone to buy in, then close the window. Anyone who gambles on being a free rider gets what they’ve got coming to them. Everyone gets to buy a policy when they turn 18 for some window. As for kids, personally I prefer Vermont’s method of the state covering every kid regardless of income. The parents can buy a policy or suffer the consequences.
Maybe with an assigned risk pool to keep the burden fair. Of course, I vastly prefer the Medicare-for-all. Even more, I prefer the German system of mandatory employer coverage with unemployment insurance covering the premiums for the unemployed. Then you have universal coverage and individual choice.
A Medicare for All plan involves two things. (1) Removing the age restriction on coverage; (2) appropriating money to cover the new claims.
And yes the regulations that go along with it and something that ends the endless cycle of Doc Fixes. And maybe higher penalties for fraud.
That legislation will not run to 2000 pages. It maybe won’t be the 35 pages that the single-payer folks put together in 2009 either.
People understand Medicare. What they don’t believe is that the Congress has the will to finance a Medicare for All plan.
The US Senate rules & the Senate Democratic caucus will never allow the Dem party to be for Single Payer. I just never seen it happening and the Health Industry will always pay off enough Dems to make it impossible.
What implications would striking down the individual mandate have on Social Security? That’s a mandate to buy insurance. I understand there’s a difference between being mandated to buy private insurance as opposed to a government-run program, but it doesn’t seem like all that great a divide, if you’re just arguing the Constitutionality of forcing someone to participate in a program that they don’t want to.
I missed most of the oral arguments back when the case was being heard so I don’t know how narrowly they’re arguing this case, but looking at how far they were able to stretch the Citizens United ruling, I wouldn’t put much of anything past them.
If you want to follow that line of argument, the Supreme Court could invalidate the use of the Commerce Clause that underlies most New Deal legislation and a lot of regulation. All it takes is 5-4.
Most analysts are not sure that Justice Kennedy wants to do that yet.
Although apparently Justice Scalia is now ready: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/06/antonin-scalia-book-health-care-wickard-filburn-raich-con
stitution-commerce-clause.php