John McCain held a townhall meeting near Phoenix today and was berated by his own constituents, many of whom completely disagree with ever letting undocumented workers become citizens, and some of whom would prefer to shoot them. All in all, it’s just one more brick in the wall that is being erected to isolate the Republican Party from anything resembling majority rule. They cannot tame the beast they created in their effort to beat Obama.
The party is becoming incoherent. On health care, the Supreme Court ruling that upheld ObamaCare also allowed the states to opt out of the Medicaid expansion. It shouldn’t matter. Opting out of the Medicaid expansion is a fiscally irresponsible thing to do. It doesn’t make economic sense for any governor to turn down massive amounts of federal money that will cover their citizens and drive down costs at hospitals and everywhere else. The vast majority of Republican governors are opting out anyway.
Then there is the issue of the health insurance exchanges. Governors can build their own exchanges, they can partner with the federal government, or they can let the federal government create their exchanges for them. Almost all Republican governors have opted to let the federal government build their exchanges, essentially abdicating their responsibility and giving up on having any influence.
The Obama administration says they are on track to have all the exchanges built by the new year. What’s ironic is that you can look at the 2012 Electoral College map and reverse the blue and red states. Blue states are exercising their sovereign right to regulate the health insurance industry (within some federal guidelines) while Red states are being taken over completely by a Democratic administration. Why?
Basically, the GOP has been driven mad and is hewing to its ideology when it makes the least sense (rejecting Medicaid funding), while rejecting it’s ideology when it makes the least sense (retaining state control over federal policy).
Christ, at this point Ramesh Ponnuru is making sense. He points out that the GOP orthodoxy on income taxes is totally out of date.
When Reagan cut rates for everyone, the top tax rate was 70 percent and the income tax was the biggest tax most people paid. Now neither of those things is true: For most of the last decade the top rate has been 35 percent, and the payroll tax is larger than the income tax for most people. Yet Republicans have treated the income tax as the same impediment to economic growth and middle-class millstone that it was in Reagan’s day. House Republicans have repeatedly voted to bring the top rate down still further, to 25 percent.
A Republican Party attentive to today’s problems rather than yesterday’s would work to lighten the burden of the payroll tax, not just the income tax.
Part of that whole disastrous 47% rhetoric was based on the phenomenon Ponnuru points out. The Republicans have forced income taxes to such a low level that most people don’t see them as a big deal. But the GOP still acts like it is 1980. This same situation is spread throughout our political landscape. Bashing gays was popular, until it wasn’t. The pro-life position was viable for a major party to take until the loons started passing actual restrictions. You could win by wrapping patriotism in a flag and having it carry a cross, until you couldn’t. You could make Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson your whipping boys until a black man became president and a black man took over the Justice Department. (Fucking check mate).
The conservative act is old. It’s crazy.
And it is still powerful enough to screw everything up.
Thank god Roberts was sane and patriotic enough to uphold the ACA last year, but fuck him for that ridiculous opinion that created this whole goddamn Medicare mess.
Medicaid.
Boo, may I put in a constituent’s request for a comment “edit” option in the next site remodel?
The thing is, Roberts will go back to being the corporate tool he is when the decision on the upcoming Monsanto case is released. A position in which the Obama DOJ will agree with Roberts BTW.
What makes you think Roberts wasn’t a corporate tool with the ACA case?
Look, I know that 99% of the GOP had worked themselves into a frenzy thinking that the ACA was the next Holocaust, but the health care leaders actually like it a lot. In addition, the whole reason ACA was passed was that enough people in power realized that if they didn’t put in some stopgap fix and costs kept rising eventually there would be a groundswell for a real fix – namely, single payer. Killing off ACA would mean creating a strong movement for single payer that this time wouldn’t be fobbed off with a weak health care solution.
He’s always been a corporate tool. It was just that a lot of people were surprised by Roberts ruling. I wasn’t when I found out that the national Chamber of Commerce took no position on ObamaCare. The Chamber was stuck. They wanted it overturned because they could then make fun of the President, but obviously some of their membership(insurance companies) wanted it because of the loads of federal money coming their way.
the health care leaders actually like it a lot
Sure they did, like when they donated $102 million to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce in 2009-10 to kill the ACA: http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/politics-elections/232573-report-insurers-gave-us-chamber-100-m
illion-to-fight-healthcare-reform
The organization representing health insurance companies provided 40% of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce’s funding in 2009, while the Chamber was leading the charge against health care reform:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-17/insurers-gave-u-s-chamber-86-million-used-to-oppose-obama-s
-health-law.html
This, of course, is because of how much they loved it.
And their stock prices skyrocketed the day it passed.
Maybe what they were campaigning against wasn’t exactly the same bill that was passed. Maybe they got some changes they wanted.
John McCain held a townhall meeting near Phoenix today and was berated by his own constituents …
A townhall held in a 98% white gated community type place. So these people were Rush/Faux listeners/watchers on steroids.
They cannot tame the beast they created in their effort to beat Obama.
Oh no. They’ve been nurturing this ugly little beast for far longer than the last four years.
I was going to say the same thing. This began in 1987 with the end of the Fairness Doctrine. Suddenly they were given freedom to turn over entire newspapers, radio stations, and later TV channels to the John Bircher / Jerry Falwell radical fringe.
It took a little while for the momentum to build, but once it did the frankenvoter they created could not be stopped. At first they enjoyed a lot of success – the smearing of Dukakis, with big win in 1994, getting the entire media complex to jump on board the Whitewater/Drudge bandwagon in the 90s, stealing an election in 2000, and getting a lot of elected Democrats to vote their way in a vain attempt to appease the frankenvoter.
Fox’s “we report you decide” slogan in 1996 was brilliant. Until relatively recently Fox polled very well amongst the general populace on fairness and trust issues because so many non-viewers didn’t realize that their slogan had nothing to do with what they were actually a propoganda outfit for extreme conservative views.
But the frankenvoter is now out of control and they can’t fix it. Way too many of their own leaders believe the propoganda – just listen to a CEO or a SCOTUS justice or a leading GOP politician speak on any topic. None of them have any connection with reality regarding science, economics or social science any more. Even those few who generally know better fall for a lot of the propoganda just because they are so seeped in it without other information.
Unfortunately, one of the clear indicators of fascist thinking is total disrespect for democratic processes. We saw this with Citizens United – but that didn’t buy the 2012 election. The next thing the SCOTUS is going to do is throw out or effective neutralize the Voting Rights Act.
And don’t think that their plan to game the Electoral College by giving blue state votes mostly to red state candidates through redistricting has been dropped. It’s lost momentum now but it will be back – with the naysayers on the right pre-neutralized so that it is rammed through.
I just get the feeling that this Tea Party insane GOP beast is going to unravel soon. It’s bursting beyond the echo chamber and the media’s he said she said nonsense, and the GOP has NOTHING to show for all it’s nasty, persistent resistance to anything remotely mainstream. They just completely suck, and I don’t think that they can keep that a secret.
The sooner, the better, but I’ve come to expect nothing.
Mike, My comment below is meant as a reply to yours.
Thanks for the comment. It’s now above this comment, I guess because of getting rated up?
This item corroborates what you’re saying:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/01/07/1177144/-Popularity-of-Tea-Party-hits-record-low-of-30-over
-half-have-a-negative-opinion
The TP controls the House because of gerrymandering, but in truth they are not popular. What this means is that though they can act with relative impunity in the House, the American public is getting very tired of them. They will get more and more unpopular, because the TP will go on doing everything that has already made them unpopular.
In the showdown over the sequester they will fail, simply because the president’s approval is in the low 50s, disapproval in the low 40s; whereas the TP’s favorability among likeley voters, according to that January poll, is 30% and unfavorability 49%. Boner will be forced to waive the Hastert Rule again, and the splits in the GOP will grow deeper.
This suggests the real possibility of kicking their butts in 2014, despite the classic midterm election pattern and despite the gerrymanders. They are vulnerable in their weakest districts. I predict there will be a mighty effort to dislodge them, and it could well succeed.
I agree with most of that. Some sort of implosion is bound to happen.
But… Gerrymandering will keep these nuts secure for another 7-10 years. The implosion is more likely going to look like the sequester and the majority of Americans won
… That is the majority of Americans won’t be able to do a thing about it.
(premature posting)
So we’ve seen this happen before. Party A gerrymanders a state to give themselves a bunch of 55-60% majority districts, putting all of Party B’s voters into a few 90% majority districts. Works well in normal years. But in a big swing year Party A is heavily vulnerable as those 55% districts suddenly are easy pickings for Party B.
This helped the Democrats a lot in 2006. Unfortunately, the Gerrymanders remained. In 2010 when the swing went the other way all those 55 GOP majority districts swung back in bigger numbers than before. The problem was that the Dems didn’t hold on through 2010 so couldn’t fix the Gerrymanders. Now the Gerrymanders are even worse. [snark] Just think, if it wasn’t for people like me writing notes criticizing Obama on blogs the Dems would have won big in 2010. [end snark]
What all this means is that the Dems have an opportunity here – one which I’m sure they’ll fumble but nevertheless it exists. The first opportunity is to expose the GOP extremists for what they are – in a manner that even the establishment press can’t deal with. That would lead to an electoral sweep in 2014. The second is to do what the GOP does in the same situation, use the newly-won state legislatures to redraw the districts to be fair. Fair, not Gerrymandered, because the Dems won’t need to maximize votes, just be sure that the GOP won’t regain a majority-of-seats-despite-minoirty-of-votes in the next swing election.
It’s an achievable scenario, we just don’t know when. But 2014 is possible if a great deal of GOTV is done in strategic districts.
There are vulnerable Democrats as well, of course. According to my “GOP trending inevitably down” argument, vulnerable Republicans are likely to be more vulnerable than vulnerable Democrats in 2014. And then there are the overall demographic trends. But “all politics is local”.
Here’s a very good analysis of how 2014 is looking as of now:
http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/2014-house-ratings-democratic-potential-republ
ican-predictability/
That’s very sharp on how most people don’t really feel the income tax any more. The same could be said for the payroll tax: I was kind of dreading its return this year but it turns out to be completely insignificant next to the jump in the Blue Cross, and I can’t imagine “conservatives” feel it any differently.
remember all the progressives that said that a payroll tax holiday would be impossible to repeal and it would destroy Social Security. They were mainly the same people who complained that the Fiscal Cliff deal raised working folks taxes.
Trolls.
Yes, nothing but trolls. I wanted it extended for one more year, but two years isn’t bad I suppose.
Ponnuru is correct in general about taxes, though. I paid 9% federal income tax in 2012…
Well I have a counter-anecdote. Today we were reviewing financial numbers and someone made a comment about how his taxes went up on January 1. There was some chuckling then the new CFO “joked” about how “no one here voted for Obama”. After the chuckling died down he said “seriously … if anyone here did that will be a big problem.”
Fucking nazis. So fucking stupid … the fucking payroll tax went up because of the GOP you moron.
why are they crazy?
because THEIR PRESIDENT IS BLACK!!