David Brooks used to be a stoner, but he thinks that the laws he was breaking did no more than subtly encourage him to be more temperate, more prudent, and more self-governing. I think he forgot about the criminal penalties involved.
…Laws profoundly mold culture, so what sort of community do we want our laws to nurture? What sort of individuals and behaviors do our governments want to encourage? I’d say that in healthy societies government wants to subtly tip the scale to favor temperate, prudent, self-governing citizenship. In those societies, government subtly encourages the highest pleasures, like enjoying the arts or being in nature, and discourages lesser pleasures, like being stoned.
In legalizing weed, citizens of Colorado are, indeed, enhancing individual freedom. But they are also nurturing a moral ecology in which it is a bit harder to be the sort of person most of us want to be.
What about the moral ecology of arresting black kids for smoking weed and letting nice Jewish kids like David Brooks off with a warning? Back in June, the ACLU released a comprehensive report (.pdf) on the racial disparities in marijuana penalties.
The report also finds that, on average, a Black person is 3.73 times more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession than a white person, even though Blacks and whites use marijuana at similar rates. Such racial disparities in marijuana possession arrests exist in all regions of the country, in counties large and small, urban and rural, wealthy and poor, and with large and small Black populations. Indeed, in over 96% of counties with more than 30,000 people in which at least 2% of the residents are Black, Blacks are arrested at higher rates than whites for marijuana possession.
Is that the kind of moral ecology we want? What kind of community do these laws nurture, David?
Since Mr. Brooks grew up in New York, let’s examine how subtle the drug laws were for the people who were actually, you know, arrested for selling marijuana to kids like David.
Under the Rockefeller drug laws, the penalty for selling two ounces (57 g) or more of heroin, morphine, “raw or prepared opium,” cocaine, or cannabis or possessing four ounces (113 g) or more of the same substances, was a minimum of 15 years to life in prison, and a maximum of 25 years to life in prison.
Yeah, even possessing four ounces of Mary Jane in the 1970’s of David Brooks’ hormonal blossoming could land you in Sing Sing for 15 to life. But this was not too likely to happen to you if you were a nice Jewish boy with an acceptance letter to the University of Chicago in your back pocket. And, in any case, little David finished his preparatory schooling the public way, at Radnor High in the Blue-Blooded Main Line Philly suburbs.
But we were talking about New York, and culture, and drug laws, and subtly sending messages through drug laws for the edification and refinement of the culture, and being “the sort of person most of us want to be.”
On that:
Between 1997 and 2007, [NYC] police arrested and jailed about 205,000 blacks, 122,000 Latinos and 59,000 whites for possessing small amounts of marijuana. Blacks accounted for about 52 percent of the arrests, though they represented only 26 percent of the city’s population over that time span. Latinos accounted for 31 percent of the arrests but 27 percent of the population. Whites represented only 15 percent of those arrested, despite comprising 35 percent of the population.
Government surveys of high school seniors and young adults 18 to 25 consistently show that young whites use marijuana more often than young blacks and Latinos. The arrests also are heavily skewed by gender. About 91 percent of people arrested were male.
“The numbers speak for themselves,” said Donna Lieberman, executive director of the NYCLU. “The NYPD routinely targets young men based on their skin color and where they live. Arresting and jailing thousands for marijuana possession does not create safer streets. It only fosters distrust between the police and community and strips hundreds of thousands of young New Yorkers of their dignity.”
The arrests, which cost taxpayers up to $90 million a year, are indicative of the NYPD’s broken windows approach to law enforcement, in which police focus on minor offenses as a method of reducing crime. This approach, also called quality of life policing, has caused a dramatic spike in stop-and-frisk encounters between police and city residents.
When David Brooks was a pimply-faced teen, he and his friends smoked pot which resulted in, as Brooks put it, “moments of uninhibited frolic” that deepened their friendships.
We can all relate.
But if Brooks had seen the inside of the walls at Sing Sing back then, he’d be singing a different tune today.
This is typical (sociopathic) Conservative “Superiority-complex” behavior by Bobo.
Once Conservatives climb a step up on the ladder, they always want to make sure to pull that ladder up with them, so no one else can take that step.
And once they’re on top, they want to take that ladder up with them, so that no one else can follow – unless they’re deemed acceptable and desirable. Or, necessary, in the case of minorities, who are needed as “beards” to display more than one color in the box of crayons – “Peach.”
Besides, Bobo and HIS friends were responsible pot-smoking kids having their “moments of uninhibited frolic!”
Not like, you know, those “Blah’s” and other minorities.
They’ll want to riot!
So, yes, Bobo and his bud’s had their fun – but they can’t allow others to have that same fun, because they won’t be able to handle it.
They’re not as responsible as Bobo and his responsible bud’s.
It’s a shame, that.
Basically, what Bobo’s saying is what was said for centuries about Native Americans:
“That the white man can always handle his whiskey!
But them Red Injuns?
Well, everyone know that them Injun’s can’t be allowed anywhere near that stuff, less’n they go crazy!”
SSDD!
Brooks displays not only sociopathic tendencies, but an astonishing absence of self-awareness and knowledge of politics and policy. Let me point out this portion of today’s piffle:
“I’d say that in healthy societies government wants to subtly tip the scale to favor temperate, prudent, self-governing citizenship. In those societies, government subtly encourages the highest pleasures, like enjoying the arts or being in nature, and discourages lesser pleasures, like being stoned.”
…or other “lesser pleasures” like participating in corrupt political maneuvers which conspire to tear down regulatory strucures, or like creating “exotic” financial products which secretly undermine your investors and thoughtlessly destroy the economy while enriching you even more obscenely in the near- and long-term.
I remember this FUCKER going on the PBS News Hour when Congress was seeking remedies to the financial disaster in 2008. Here’s an accurate paraphrase of what David said: “If you ask these CEO’s to explain the mechanisms of these financial products, they can’t do it- they’re too complicated. If they can’t explain them, I certainly don’t think that members of Congress can understand them, and Congress shouldn’t regulate things they don’t understand.”
My mouth hung open as I heard him say this. Such pure and annihilating sociopathy! Mark Shields and Jim Lehrer took no particular note of the horribleness and stupidity of this statement; perhaps they chuckled in conspirational cynicism.
Brooks is one of the most prominent enablers of our unhealthy society. He has many companions who also have giant megaphones in our media, allowing them each to pour out their particular poison.
Dave’s old friend ain’t taking the abuse lying down:
JAYZOOS!!!
BooMan, thanks for that link.
Even the GREAT Charles Pierce won’t be able to top that brutal and hysterical takedown!!!
Bobo is possibly the most pompous ass to ever have a newspaper column.
AND THAT’S SAYING SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The whole thing reads like satire to me, but I’d be happy to be wrong.
Dare I say it? Dave’s friend is a much better writer than dave will ever be.
I am looking forward to David’s response to his old pal’s blog post.
But now the Daily Caller says Brooks denies ever knowing this guy.
http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/03/dude-who-smoked-pot-with-david-brooks-surfaces-and-writes-about-it
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Reminds me of a movie from the 70s (caution: not family-friendly…)
Also, where does he get off categorizing “the arts” and “being in nature” as the “highest” pleasures and being stoned as the “lowest”? As if Colerige, William Blake, Aldous Huxley, Mick Jagger, John Lennon, Cole Porter, Vincent Van Gogh etc. just, you know, had it wrong.
The combination of condescension and naivité is, as always, infuriating.
Can somebody provide a decent explanation of why nearly all of these millionaire columnists are so incredibly stupid?
It’s part of the requirement of getting that job, sorta a job description ….
stupid as shi-ite,
apply here to write total drivel
for mega bucks,
must have an appropriate college degree.
Bobo knew he fit that to a Tee
And just as with his fellow former stoner Ruth Marcus, not one word of criticism will leave even the slightest impression.
BooMan, I hope you’ll forgive me for going off topic, but I wanted to post a quick thank you to the person here (no idea who it was!) who first recommended Dave Zirin.
I am not much of a sports person, but I think he’s one of the best bloggers around.
Zirin is great for those of us that know little and have little interest in sports.
Did he really give it up? Now I know why so much of his stuff reads like YAFfer-stoners.
Yes, privilege has its privilege. You never have to say you’re sorry. But in the Southern sense, you really are.
If Brooks had seen the inside of Sing-Sing (remember the “Scared Straight” program that preceded DARE), he likely would still be there.
A few years back I got into an internet argument about legalizing marijuana. I felt it should be legal for exactly the same arguments you are making re our ludicrous sentencing laws and the discriminatory application. Not to mention the revenue potential of taxing the (legal) sales. But I was told that I was a naif and had no sense of priorities.
Glad to see the majority of my fellow Coloradans, at least, have come to have the same viewpoint as me. Also have to point out the absurdity of some of the pundits arguing that marijuana mobs would be rioting on Wednesday if the stores ran out. In fact everything has been peaceful and mellow and a lot of pot is being sold.
As for Bobo – what a colossal dick that guy is.
It’s as if the great experiment in prohibition (18th Amendment) taught us nothing. Of course we didn’t learn from the Vietnam War disaster either.
High Demand: Price of legal marijuana soars in Colorado.
At those prices, not going to see the end of the black market any time soon. Or we might as well let BigTobacco take over and deliver as good a product for a fraction of the price.
(I’m old enough to remember $70 for a kilo of standard grade pot.)
It’s not the supply and demand of pot that is setting those prices, it is the number of state tax certifiers they have to inspect the baggies. (According to a state official interviewed New Year’s Eve on CNN, FWIW).
So appropriations for the tax agents will determine the quantity that is legalized. And no doubt what happens to black market prices will be reflected back somehow into the state’s allocation between tax agents and law enforcement.
Fascinating experiment. Who is wholesaling to the retailers. In SC, the liquor stores are privately owned but (I guess it still is the case) that the state owned the wholesaler. In NC and a lot of other states, the state owns all of the liquor stores.
From that, you’d think that this country has zero experience in food/drug inspection and revenue tax stamps.
It’s essentially no more complicated than a blend of what has worked for alcohol and tobacco. No reason why individual states can’t choose their own model as they do with alcohol. PA could modify its state owned liquor and wine stores to liquor, wine, and pot. (Or let the beer and pop stores sell the pot in one ounce baggies and bars sell by the joint.) Anywhere alcohol and tobacco is sold in CA could also sell marijuana.
Unlike alcohol and tobacco production, IMHO it would be preferable to begin state oversight at the farm level for three reasons: 1) a decent income for good farmers 2) product safety and 3) production and/or farm size limits per farmer to preclude the development of pot barons. Local or regional farmers’ coops for processing, grading, and distribution would also be a good idea.
$400 for an ounce of high-end cannabis is cheap compared to the black market.
that can’t last. It will soon look like here in California where the low and competitive medical prices drive everyone’s pricing. Weed is significantly cheaper now than 10 years ago.
this was supposed to be a reply to marie2
What was the price ten years ago in CA and what is it today?
While I’ve always been an advocate for legalization, have never appreciated the drug. And even if I did, I’m much too poor, thrifty, or cheap to spend more than few dollars for an occasional cheap thrill.
The product doesn’t cost all the much to produce. It’s all the middlemen each adding a 100% or more mark-up that drives the price up to ridiculous levels. Legalization, regulation, and taxation, in a normal market environment should cut that price by at least 50%. It should be somewhat in line with the price of a bottle of wine.
in Los Angeles, the medical price ranges from 75 to 300 per oz. These are publicly advertised prices. Non-medical prices that I might somehow have heard about tend toward the high end of this range, 250 – 300, with prices very similar to the medical price of the same strain. Before medical pot was available I heard numbers in the $350-400 range, and today’s $300 stuff is much stronger too.
Costs a lot to be a kid these days.
My reference point is from the mid-1970s when I had a friend that was a dealer. Minimum wage was $2.50/hour. This dealer once came into a supply of primo so-called Colombian green buds and Acapulco gold buds at the same time. Set the one ounce prices at $30 for the green and $35 for the gold. Later mentioned to me that the supply was moving faster than usual, I pointed out that it indicated an undercutting the market and it would be best to raise the prices. Sales didn’t slow down when the dealer went to $35 and $40.
Yes, I know the stuff sold today is reportedly stronger — but as strong as hashish that wasn’t exactly an unseen commodity back then?
I’d say that in healthy societies government wants to subtly tip the scale to favor temperate, prudent, self-governing citizenship. In those societies, government subtly encourages the highest pleasures, like enjoying the arts or being in nature, and discourages lesser pleasures, like being stoned.
WTF!? I’m absolutely speechless. Could this sentence possibly be more condescending or myopic?
Moreover, until this moment I did not know that Bobo was a proponent of “subtly tipping the Government scale” to support “the Arts,” and turning every impoverished, inner-city black kid in America into a devotee of Brian Sewell’s Grand Tour of Italy (2006). (A pretty good DVD set, BTW). I mean, I assume that The Apollo Theater isn’t what Bobo has in mind, as there isn’t much “nature” in Harlem.
Then again, could Bobo really be suggesting that the Government bring back the Federal Art Project? I think not, because direct infusion of federal funds to promote the arts and help put Americans back to work is anything but “subtle”: Why, that would be socialism, maybe even communism!
This drivel could only be written by Bobo. What is remarkable is that you can actually see the blinders in his brain channeling his view to his own fantasy world.
Never have smoked pot, never will. Legality has nothing to do with it–for one thing, as a Latino male I wouldn’t be getting off with a warning. For another I have no desire to chill out in that manner–I like thinking and I like being in control of myself. I don’t even drink that much for similar reasons.
I’ve had some of the best moments of introspection and enlightenment while high on cannabis.
If you don’t think you can think on cannabis, you’ve been brainwashed into a bunch of bullshit.
One of the reasons that cannabis remains illegal is that unlike alcohol, speed, and other legal drugs, cannabis can actually increases your cognitive thinking and let you see/hear/taste/feel things in a way you, literally, cannot imagine.
Cannabis doesn’t make people stupid and lazy.
Stupid and lazy people who use cannabis just happen to be stupid, lazy, and high.
No one I’ve ever known who has used cannabis evidenced increased cognition. From law school to high school. Not that everyone started acting stupid or anything either, obviously.
Still, having deep/profound/introspective thoughts is not really what I’m talking about here. I don’t need help for that.