I agree with Ralph Peters that Susan Rice should not have said that Bowe Bergdahl served with “honor and distinction.” The rest of what Mr. Peters says is rather appalling.
Too many people want to pre-judge this case, but let’s assume that Bengdahl grew disillusioned with the war effort in Afghanistan, wandered off the base, got captured, and caused the death of several American soldiers who had been tasked with trying to find him. He made a terrible mistake, not necessarily in his assessment of the war, but in how he reacted and how his decision put other people in harm’s way. Even Mr. Peters acknowledges that Mr. Bergdahl payed a terrible price and doesn’t want to see him further punished. Well, he doesn’t want to see him imprisoned anyway.
I understand why saying that Bengdahl served with honor and distinction struck a nerve, but just as we forgive inaccuracies in eulogies we ought to be forgiving of them in descriptions of people who have suffered for five years as a prisoner of war. If Mr. Peters is correct that Bengdahl is “quite possibly the most-hated individual soldier in the history of our military,” that is partly the fault of people like Mr. Peters who have seized on this issue for maximum political advantage. Decent people know that this man has suffered tremendously and don’t want to cause him any more harm. But Mr. Peters is not a decent man.
He revels in giving personal offense and harbors deep feelings of inadequacy:
Both President Obama and Ms. Rice seem to think that the crime of desertion in wartime is kind of like skipping class. They have no idea of how great a sin desertion in the face of the enemy is to those in our military. The only worse sin is to side actively with the enemy and kill your brothers in arms. This is not sleeping in on Monday morning and ducking Gender Studies 101.
But compassion, please!
This is a fundamental culture clash. Team Obama and its base cannot comprehend the values still cherished by those young Americans “so dumb” they joined the Army instead of going to prep school and then to Harvard. Values such as duty, honor, country, physical courage, and loyalty to your brothers and sisters in arms have no place in Obama World. (Military people don’t necessarily all like each other, but they know they can depend on each other in battle — the sacred trust Bergdahl violated.)
President Obama did this to himself (and to Bergdahl). This beautifully educated man, who never tires of letting us know how much smarter he is than the rest of us, never stopped to consider that our troops and their families might have been offended by their commander-in-chief staging a love-fest at the White House to celebrate trading five top terrorists for one deserter and featuring not the families of those soldiers (at least six of them) who died in the efforts to find and free Bergdahl, but, instead, giving a starring role on the international stage to Pa Taliban, parent of a deserter and a creature of dubious sympathies (that beard on pops ain’t a tribute to ZZ Top). How do you say “outrageous insult to our vets” in Pashto?
Mr. Peters is correct that previous generations would have shot or hanged Mr. Bengdahl rather than securing his freedom. He doesn’t seem to think that should have changed.
Or, if we were in good spirits, we merely used a branding iron to burn a large D into their cheeks or foreheads. Even as we grew more enlightened, desertion brought serious time in a military prison. At hard labor.
All this heat and hyperbole in the service of what?
If he is convicted, I for one do not want him to go to prison. I’m sure he’s paid and paid for betraying his comrades, quite possibly suffering brutal sexual violence. But if he is found guilty, he needs to be formally reduced to the rank of private, stripped of all privileges and entitlements (the taxpayer should not pay for a deserter’s lifelong health care — Bergdahl’s book and film deals can cover that), and he should be given the appropriate prison sentence, which would then be commuted by the president. Thereafter, let Mr. Bergdahl go home and live with himself.
I probably agree that Bengdahl should be court-martialed, reduced in rank to a private and stripped of all privileges and entitlements. But I also know that the moment that the president commutes his sentence, Mr. Peters will be back attacking the president for doing the wrong thing. Because this isn’t about doing the right thing. Clearly, the president did the right thing here. This is just about politics.
“We rescue our soldiers first and ask questions later. If action by justice system is needed, I prefer American justice over Taliban justice.” – Tweet from Harry Reid.
Arguing over whether Bergdahl should face charges or not is simply counterproductive until an investigation is complete. Until then the only thing that needs to be said is we rescue our soldiers
I declare! Ain’t he a peach?
Yeah, I hear that some folks consider that Robert E Lee “served with honor and distinction”, right up until that “treason” thing.
All bullshit. First condemn Jr. and The Dark One for their crimes (also the other Rice) and then someone might have the moral authourity to quibble about a lowly soldier. A court martial? You’re kidding.
“I’m sure he’s paid and paid for betraying his comrades, quite possibly suffering brutal sexual violence.“
Always with the projection!
More hated than Bendict Arnold? Really?
And it looks like the number of soldiers who died d/t Bergdahl’s actions is, wait for it, zero.
I don’t know, and neither does Mr. Peters, if Bergdahl deserted. And at this point in time, it is irrelevant.
One thing is obvious, except to people blinded to common sense by their hatred of all things Obama. Bergdahl did not desert to the Taliban. If he had, the Taliban would have been shouting that fact from the rooftops.
And it is amazing how so many people that were asking for prayers to be said for Bergdahl, and exhorting the President to do everything possible to get him returned, never mentioned all this desertion crap, etc. before. The facts as we know them weren’t different 3 years ago, 1 year ago, 6 months ago than they are now.
More hated than http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bales
I don’t doubt that.
As Rear Admiral John F. Kirby said, “When youre in the Navy, and you go overboard, it doesn’t matter if you were pushed, fell or jumped. We’re going to turn the ship around and pick you up.”
End of story.
Chief Wright answered this seditious bastard and his pals better than anyone else has thus far:
It is obvious to anyone with any reasoning capacity whatsoever.
I think everyone would greatly appreciate it if the folks howling about Bergdahl’s release could please go through the active duty roster of the military and let us all know ahead of time who is worthy of repatriation should they be captured or killed. Save us all a lot of time and money, and the troops would be a lot happier knowing their status before leaving base, I’m sure.
Perhaps we should just start the “do not rescue or recover” list with anyone who has publicly or privately had misgivings about the efficacy of their service or whether the mission was worthwhile, as Bergdahl apparently expressed. We want to be sure we have only the gung-hoest of the gung-ho among our fightin’ men and women.
In 2009, Peters suggested (on Fox, where else?) thatthe Taliban should just kill Bergdahl:
I want to be clear. If, when the facts are in, we find out that through some convoluted chain of events, he really was captured by the Taliban, I’m with him. But, if he walked away from his post and his buddies in wartime, I don’t care how hard it sounds, as far as I’m concerned, the Taliban can save us a lot of legal hassles and legal bills.
Ah, I knew someone said that on Fox but hadn’t put two and two together.
Another installment of, Republicans are patriots because they support the troops.
I thought that one of the founding attributes of the USA was the fact that you were considered innocent until found guilty. In this case anyone that is screaming about this soldiers guilt. Prior to the military even filing charges is doing so for 15 minutes of fame,Attention, political favoritism of their base.
Wait until after the trial, if there is one where all the facts will come out.
By the way either way this is a win/win for the military. If found guilty the soldier will be punished/ if found innocent, he was not left behind. Either way soldiers are assured the USA will bring them back home.
Side note on trading the 5 Taliban members.As we are pulling out of Afghanistan and closing Gitmo. Just what do these people think we are going to do with prisoners in Gitmo that have never been charged or brought to trial? I know the GOP answer is to line them all up and after having them dig a large trench shoot them all.
Point is these people will be free very soon.
Closing Gitmo? I haven’t heard anything about that yet.
once the President declares the war on terror over or the AUMF is repealed there is no longer any legal authority for it to be open as a prison any longer
Just like we don’t mention that John McCain, POW, crashed several planes before the one from which he was captured.
POW’s are sacrosanct. American tradition for at least 75 years. Why is the GOP breaking that tradition now. Oh yeah.
Since there’s been no article 32 investigation which would lead to courts martial it doesn’t matter he’s guilty and that’s the end of it.
Does that about cover it? Guilty by accusation without an investigation and trial still makes one guilty.
Apparently he didn’t break through five years imprisonment and undoubtedly torture. That’s serving “with honor and distinction” to me!
He wandered off the base unarmed. Possibly desertion, but more likely, considering the high suicide rate of Afghan veterans, he just snapped and wandered off because he couldn’t take it any more. I wouldn’t castigate him for that. We call it PTSD and treat it.
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