No, I’m not making a prediction. She hasn’t lost the nomination battle for 2016, not yet anyway. However what she did do today, or what I should more accurately say, is she lost my respect. Back in 2011, at a speech she, in her capacity as Secretary of State, was giving for international internet freedom, a worthy cause. During the speech, Ray McGovern, a retired CIA agent who became a political activist against the wars fought in our name in the Middle east, stood up and tuned his back on her, a silent form of protest. For that he was arrested for disorderly conduct. From the transcript of the Democracy NOW broadcast about the incident:
RAY McGOVERN: Well, I was pounced upon. I was blindsided, really. I was looking straight to the back, minding my own business, the only offense being standing up when everyone else was sitting down. And without any warning, I was pounced upon by and what I call large-manhandled by a fellow who looked like an NFL football player in plain dress. I don’t know who he was. That’s why you hear me screaming, “Who are you? Who are you?” I never did get the answer to that. So it was really quite abrupt, quite violent. […]
[T]hey put two sets of handcuffs on me very roughly. They were the iron or the steel handcuffs. They dug into my wrists. Well, you could see some of the stuff right here. And they put it behind my back, of course, and I started bleeding profusely over my pants. We have the pants; they’re full of blood. When somebody said, “Is that his blood?” one of the cops said, “No, no, I pricked my finger.” Right.
Now that was bad enough, violating his 1st amendment right to dissent, and eventually the charges against him were dropped. But what followed next was much worse. From the lawsuit filed by McGovern against the US State Department:
The complaint continues: [After McGovern’s arrest]”The Department of State then opened an investigation into Plaintiff McGovern, including specifically his lawful, protected political beliefs, activities, statements and associations which it kept open for nearly seven months, despite all charges having been dropped against Mr. McGovern and despite having determined that Mr. McGovern was engaged in no criminal activity.”
As the complaint states: “The Department of State issued a Be On The Lookout Alert (‘BOLO Alert’) for the then- 71-year-old McGOVERN which described his ‘considerable amount of political activism, primarily anti-war,’ displayed his picture and directed law enforcement that if Mr. McGOVERN was encountered, ‘USE CAUTION, stop’ and question him and contact the Department of State Diplomatic Security Command Center.”
That is the type of thing one would expect of a person who was suspected of committing violent acts of terrorism, or of making threats against the US government or its officials, not an antiwar activist who served in the military – the Army – and then the CIA. All he did was turn his back on Hillary Clinton and he was arrested in a brutal fashion, and then a political vendetta was carried out against him. A BOLO Alert is no small matter. Any trigger happy police officer or law enforcement official who saw him was required to stop, treat him as a dangerous individual, and immediately contact the Security apparatus at the State Department. That would scare the hell out of me if my name ever got put on such a list.
Of course, McGovern was never officially informed of the order, but his encounters with law enforcement must have led him to suspect that he was on some sort of government watch list. Ultimately, it took a Freedom of Information Act request to discover this wrongful action by our government.
McGovern was targeted by the State Department because he turned his back on Hillary Clinton, nothing more. Luckily, we have some good news. The Judge in his case ruled in McGovern’s favor and issued an injunction requiring the government to remove him from the BOLO watch list.
The PCJF filed a civil rights lawsuit on behalf of Mr. McGovern challenging the arrest and brutality, and seeking an injunction against the State Department related to its issuing a “Be On the Look-Out” (BOLO) alert against Mr. McGovern which directed agents to stop and question him on sight.
We have obtained the relief sought in the litigation against the Department of State and confirmed that the BOLO alert is now rescinded and that the U.S. State Department has advised other law enforcement that it is non-operational.
The reasons cited for issuing a BOLO alert against Ray included his “political activism, primarily anti-war” — a clearly unconstitutional basis. […]
The PCJF discovered the unconstitutional BOLO alert issued by the State Department through a Freedom of Information Act demand, and filed a lawsuit, pro bono, on Mr. McGovern’s behalf earlier this year.
What Senator Clinton should do is issue an apology to Mr. McGovern. I don’t care if she had direct knowledge of this action by her subordinates, or not. She was in charge of the State Department and she bears the ultimate responsibility for what was done to Ray McGovern, and she should be held accountable for what happened to him on her watch. The least she can do is take responsibility and issue an apology. I don’t expect that to happen, but until she does, I will not support her run for the Presidency should she declare herself a candidate.
Update: For the record, not only would it be the right thing to do, I believe it would be the politically smart move as well.
This is pretty shocking. I don’t care who was in charge of the State Department at that moment in time, this gentleman definitely deserves an apology.
Good for you for your apology below, sir. That was very stand-up of you.
Isn’t it a bit early in the political season for trivial pursuit?
At this rate you’ll no doubt have an infinite number of reasons for your opposition to Mrs. Clinton.
I just hope you won’t be a wingnut about it.
As far as the victim, his cause is just and justice should be his.
I am not a wingnut. I just find this deeply disturbing. If she didn’t know anything about the BOLO order against McGovern she should say so, but then issue an apology to him. It’s the right thing to do. We are either a nation of laws or we are not. This was a lawless abuse of power by someone at the State Department on her watch. The standup thing to do is to issue an apology. I also think it is the politically smart thing to do in the long run.
You’re right: McGovern was obviously guilty of Lèse-majesté. He’s lucky to have kept his head.
Sadly, between open season on black males and people being killed by police officers, it is beginning to look like we are not.
We’re still a nation of laws. We’re so much a nation of laws that we have two sets of them: one for the right sort of people and the other for everyone else.
No argument about McGovern.
As far as Hillary. I prefer to think strategically. Whenever I read something from the Bush/Cheney years I literally feel sick to my stomach. The horrors they perpetuated are legion.
Strategically, right now Hillary’s popularity is distracting Republicans at Midterms and I like that a lot. They excite their base by going after Benghazi, but they also stimulate Democrats by acting so crazy. Kos has a diary up about Democrats beating the pants off Republicans in fundraising and having a clear advantage in TV ads going into these final days. It’s caused the Kochs to change strategy. Anything that brings out the GOP crazy can work to our advantage.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/09/26/1332345/-Senate-Dems-have-more-money-because-Citizens-Unite
d-is-killing-Republicans
The awareness of the Kochs influence on politics is growing and in 2016 there will be more Republicans up for the Senate than Democrats. I want a Democrat in the White House. The GOP and Democrats are not the same. No frigging way. And a strong Democrat will pull in governors, representatives, senators and other state offices. If Hillary is our candidate I will absolutely vote for her. There are too many absolutely vital reasons to have Democrats in office that are so much more important. Climate change for one.
I don’t see that it works to Democrats advantage to want to throw out a candidate because of one thing or one area. I don’t think it works to want to get rid of a candidate because of our emotions. We can’t want the outside world to change so that we feel better. There will always be something to be pissed off about. McGovern isn’t the first time this type of thing has happened. It makes me want to know what in the system is creating that situation and how we can change it.
Meanwhile, the huge grassroots movement created around the “first ever” aspect of a potential Clinton campaign is sending its troops to 14 states to work on the mid-terms.
That’s a good thing.
Tom, agree. I see a lot of hopeful signs for the grassroots registration and GOTV. I know OFA is working for it. There’s this
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/09/25/in-a-first-dccc-helps-register-more-
than-60000-new-voters/
“House Democrats, flush with campaign cash, have crafted an unprecedented field operation this year that has registered tens of thousands of voters — including several thousand in critical states — for the first time.”
Structurally, the best possible thing is happening at “the top” – the melding to the Obama and Clinton operations to create something really new and broad.
The press is covering the personalities and numbers so far (shocker!) but that Democratic synthesis is the BIG STORY put there right now.
Few see it because….Hillary bad! … or…. Obama disappointing! (Two lame views, to me) Lots of shouting and feet-stamping. Meanwhile, millions of rank and file Dems (and some independents) are busily organizing.
omg another one (or a sock puppet)
You’d have a better point if Clinton was only a liar, only a corporatist, only a DLC type, or only a hawk.
My point isn’t Hillary exactly. My point is that we are the only ones that can handle our own feelings. We can’t change the outside world so that we feel better. When I say I like to think strategically, I mean I like to look at the reasons why something is happening. If the government is intolerant of whistleblowers – why? And what can be done to change that system. And I absolutely do believe that my chance for change is with Democrats, not Republicans.
I’m not saying not deal with the specific McGovern situation. I’m describing my interest and perspective.
I may be wrong, but I can see this coming back to bite her in 2016. You want to wait until after the mid-terms for her apology? Fine, but she should still give one. And I for one want to see other candidates in the primaries going against her. Many of her positions are antagonistic to my positions, such as wealth and income inequality and climate change. I fear she is also much more hawkish than Obama and fear a Clinton Presidency would lead to more wars. If she wins the nomination fine, I’ll consider my options then. But I don’t wish to have her anointed the candidate without a vigorous debate in the primaries because of the presence of other viable, strong candidates. Biden would be just as appealing to the demographic to which Clinton supposedly appeals, and I trust him more.
We are not in the primaries, Steven, we are at midterms. And she has been a big distraction for Republicans which I just love. The GOP realize they are sounding crazy and say this new Benghazi special committee will be more fact based. We’ll see.
As far as Hillary. She’s old and we don’t even know if she will run. But by God she’s got the GOP in a tizzy and I relish it.
Now is now. Primaries are a whole nother thing.
I understand your point. As I said, after midterms she should address this.
I’m not talking about whether she should address McGovern now or not. I was just talking about strategy for the midterms and how I see her possible candidacy working to the benefit of Democrats. I want Democrats to win in the midterms. You gave your view point and I am giving mine, that’s all.
I’m one of those people who thinks government is good. I want to see a strong, healthy government because I can vote for the people in it and they are responsive to citizens. Yes, it gets out of balance, but it can also be brought back in balance. Life is change.
I also find it interesting to change a system to resolve problems. That’s my personal interest and also from my education. I was trained in systems theory for psychological behavior. Simplifying: the bad child acts out the problems in the family system and in intervening with the family, they find a new balance.
who said the GOP and democrats were the same? are you claiming that Hillary is the only democrat who can win? who are the R’s going to run? they have no bench.
It would surprise me if Ray McGovern hadn’t been on multiple lists long ago. This was essentially a public announcement by the State Department as to the limits of dissent.
Well being on a BOLO list is pretty serious stuff. It’s like having a target on your back everywhere you go because it requires law enforcement to stop you. And this did not happen – the BOLO – until after he stood up at her speech. Then a 7 month investigation to provide the paperwork to “justify” the BOLO alert.
I mean even if he didn’t know, this happened on his watch – like plenty of other bad things.
I think the case is a bad one, but I also think its political usefulness to bring down Hillary Clinton is near zero.
On a related topic. The world President Hillary Rodham Clinton will inherit.
The Hill: State Department: Assad must go for ISIS to be defeated
Of the countries targeted for regime change by the neo-cons, Obama has taken out Gadhafi and now targets Assad. One can only ask “Is Iran next?” If it is, there will be at the start of Hillary Clinton’s Presidency a belt of chaos that extends from Pakistan through Libya and Sudan. Unless President Obama can throw one of those last-minute rope-a-dope punches that characterized both political campaigns.
BooMan said that it would be a difficult strategy to implement. Refusing the assistance of Russia and Iran and coercing the assistance of UAE and Saudi Arabia makes it extremely difficult.
Once again, fire John Brennan.
interesting. but is that person talking out of turn? does she speak for John Kerry and our president? maybe a little sabotage of his initiative?
Hillary needs to shed her pomp, its irritating. Joe is looking better and better.