Deal With Iran Is Near

17 Comments

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   TarheelDem on July 13, 2015 at 2:53 pm

   In order to get it past Congress, Iran cannot be seen as being too happy.

   In order for Rouhani to get it past his hardliners, the US cannot be seen as being too happy.

   Ugh! We got a deal that neither of us like but both can live with doesn’t really inspire ratification either.

   The domestic politics on both sides is hard, very hard.

   The benefits of a deal in good faith are immense.

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     rikyrah on July 13, 2015 at 3:32 pm

     The benefits of a deal in good faith are immense.

     It really would be a complete re-set in the Middle East.

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       TarheelDem on July 13, 2015 at 6:26 pm

       The real reset would be normalization of relations with Iran after 36 years.

       That would make the Fifth Fleet stationed in Bahrain capable of moving elsewhere.

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   rikyrah on July 13, 2015 at 3:31 pm

   just post after it’s done…on pins and needles right now.

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   Raypc800 on July 13, 2015 at 3:48 pm

   Ah but the great country of Israel has already put out a large dog whistle to attract the attention of numerous politicians. That they have bought and paid for here in the USA Congress.To let them all know that Israel does not approve of the deal at all. Watch the show when it is announced.

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   Minneloushe on July 13, 2015 at 4:44 pm

   I agree 100% with Tarheel Dem. A Persian friend of mine feels that a deal was pretty much done already by the weekend deadline, but that Kerry and Zarif have arranged to help one another by allowing each side to show clearly to its own idiots that they have wrung the last possible drop of blood from the other side’s stone.

   There will be dancing in the streets in Tehran, as there was after the interim framework agreement was signed.

   Rouhani is not Ahmedinejad. It is time for us to re-align our Middle East policy. Iran has a strong civil society that will be reinforced by the agreement; Saudi Arabia is run by a few families and exports Waha’abist Islamist Jihad, while Iran has been clearly moving away from Theocracy.

   Both Iran and the US have a long way to go to become true egalitarian, democratic states; despite our increasing plutocratic appearances, we still have more of a democracy than Iran. Congress cannot really oust Obama; but Khamenei can yank Rouhani at any time. Considering that, the Iranian president has been very brave, I think.

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     Davis X Machina on July 13, 2015 at 5:17 pm

     Wait, isn’t this deal only good until Hillary bombs Iran?

     Because everyone knows she’s going to bomb Iran, right?

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       TarheelDem on July 13, 2015 at 6:29 pm

       Don’t think that it is only Republicans in the foreign policy establishment who are throwing sand in the gears. In the current political climate in DC, it is hard to distinguish judgement from political expediency.

       For Obama and Kerry, getting a good faith deal is personal and historic.  The other players have other agendas.

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   Parallax on July 13, 2015 at 6:41 pm

   When and if the deal is announced, it will be a monumental moment. We’vve been paying for the Mossadegh coup since the Shah was deposed. This will be a turning point. Iran and the U.S. are natural allies. It took a president with real wisdom to recognize it.

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   on July 13, 2015 at 7:14 pm

   Considering the slowed economy and general lack of demand for petroleum how can they agree to a treaty that would put Iran back in the oil business?

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   BooMan on July 13, 2015 at 9:28 pm

   gird your loins. I think an announcement is coming.

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   The Voice In The Wilderness on July 13, 2015 at 10:29 pm

   And when the Senate rejects it?

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   IL JimP on July 13, 2015 at 10:56 pm

   this deal doesn’t need to be approved by Congress right? I thought it wasn’t going to be a treaty since so many parties are involved

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    LosGatosCA on July 14, 2015 at 12:39 am

    The CIA couldn’t have hacked his Twitter accoiunt in an attempt to . . . . .

    • scuttle the deal
    • show the Iranians whose boss
    • just to fuck with them

    etc.

    Amirite?

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    Oui on July 14, 2015 at 2:17 am

    Last ditch effort by Bibi Netanyahu … after losing most allies in the world, does this arrogant sob think anyone is listening? Look at his recent twitter posts in English: The Islamic State of Iran – just like ISIS, but much bigger. ISIS was a creation out of the Iraq War vortex, initiated by George Bush with the support of PM Ariel Sharon. Netanyahu is no friend of the United States and never ended his antagonizing policy set by the White House [Haaretz article pdf] under president Obama.

    Netanyahu tweets in Farsi against Iran nuclear deal

    In an 11th-hour escalation of his lobbying against an expected nuclear deal between Iran and six world powers, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu turned to the Iranian public with a new Farsi-language Twitter account.

    Israel, not a party to the negotiations with Iran, has tried with little effect to get the terms imposed on its arch-foe toughened up. The talks, held in Vienna, appeared close to yielding a deal ahead of a midnight deadline.

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    Netanyahu's Farsi language Twitter profile

    Tweets posted on Netanyahu’s new account, @IsraeliPM_Farsi, restated his argument that such a deal would “pave the way for Iran to get nuclear bombs and billions of dollars for terrorism” and that the Iranian leadership should not be engaged diplomatically while it orchestrates anti-US “hate marches” on the streets of Tehran.

    Netanyahu has a popular following on Twitter and often tweets videos and photos with messages critical of the Iranian government and nuclear negotiations.

    Meir Javedanfar, an Iranian-born Israeli analyst, said Netanyahu’s aggressive rhetoric could backfire with his Iranian audience. “I’m worried … Netanyahu is going to cause more damage if he continues with the same messages,” he said.

    The account quickly gained more than 900 followers, with many users mocking him and saying there was a grammatical mistake.

    ○ Israel and U.S. at odds over timetables and red lines for Iran | Haaretz 2012 |

    My recent diaries on Iran nuclear deal:
    ○ Netanyahu Has Failed Miserably …
    ○ Obama’s FP Legacy: On Verge of Reaching Iran Nuclear Deal

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    Oui on July 14, 2015 at 2:28 am

    Iranian diplomat says Iran, 6 major powers have reached nuclear deal – Reuters

    Iran and six leading world powers have reached a conclusive deal on the Iranian nuclear industry, an Iranian diplomat said as quoted by Reuters.

    “All the hard work has paid off and we sealed a deal. God bless our people,” the diplomat told Reuters on condition of anonymity. The breakthrough was confirmed by a European diplomat, who told TASS that it would be announced “soon.”

    As soon as the deal is officially announced it will bring an end the 12-year dispute over Tehran’s nuclear program and related economic sanctions. Foreign ministers and officials from Iran, the United States, the UK, France, Germany, Russia and China have gathered in Vienna, twice postponing the deadline in the course of the past two weeks, in a bid to make a long-term deal on Iranian nuclear program.

    The lengthy negotiations remained deadlocked due to a lack of confidence in the purpose of Tehran’s nuclear activities, which the country claims to remain solely peaceful. The Western countries had accused the country of seeking a way of creating its own nuclear weapons.

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    IL JimP on July 14, 2015 at 9:24 am

    looks like it’s a UN Security Council resolution not a treaty so Senate will not need to ratify anything