Raw Story, November 27, 2015 Mississippi man guns down Waffle House waitress after she asks him not to smoke
Police said Johnny Mount was eating about 1 a.m. at the restaurant in Biloxi, Mississippi, when he lit a cigarette, reported WLOX-TV.
A waitress asked the 45-year-old Mount to put out the cigarette or smoke outside, and he began arguing with her.
Police said Mount then pulled out a 9 mm handgun he had concealed under his shirt and shot the 52-year-old waitress in the head.
She was taken to a nearby hospital but died from her wounds.
Raw Story, November 27, 2015 UPDATE: Gunman who opened fire at Colorado Planned Parenthood taken into custody
An active shooter was reported at a Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood facility at about 11:45 a.m. local time. Police said the gunman shot at passing cars from the parking lot of a clinic in Colorado Springs, reported KRDO-TV.
… [All those in the mall offices, stores, and restaurants sheltered in place throughout the attack]
UPDATE 5:14 p.m. local time: A gunman who opened fire Friday afternoon at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado has been taken into custody, according to CBS News. The man apparently surrendered after a more than 4-hour stand-off with police. According to reporters on the scene, 11 people, including 5 police officers, have been hospitalized with injuries.
UPDATE:
The Gazette – 2 reportedly killed, gunman detained in Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting [Updated to 3 killed. Identity of murderer still being withheld other than he’s an older white man with gray hair and beard]
Multiple news outlets are reporting fatalities in Friday’s shooting at a Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood building. Gazette news partner KKTV reports that a University of Colorado at Colorado Springs officer was killed; 9News in Denver reported that one offficer and one civilian are dead.
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Eleven people were taken to hospitals, including five law enforcement officers.
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While perfectly descriptive, does the use of “domestic” to label in-home murders and violence by partners and ex-partners soften the horror? The attack on PP was terrorism. Possibly Xtrian terrorism, fetus-fetish-fanatic (or f-f-fascist) terrorism. To call it “domestic” terrorism doesn’t quite capture home-grown terrorism for me.
I prefer “Christian terrorism” to “domestic terrorism” when religion is clearly at the root. Clive Bundy and Timothy McVeigh were domestic terrorists.
Similarly “Muslim terrorism” describes the Charlie Hebdo massacre, but not 9-11 which appears to me to have been more political than religious, although politics is often mixed with religion especially in the Middle East.
Bundy is a Mormon-terrorist. All his notions derive from his version of Mormonism. wrt McVeigh:
As much, if not more, “Christian” as the Paris terrorists were/are “Muslim.” However, their primary identification is with violence against some perceived other or enemy. Like Brevik. Shallow or perverted thinking.
The Advocate —Two young children, parents dead in apparent murder-suicide in Marrero Sunday morning . 2 and 4 year old children and 40 year old mother stabbed to death.
Note to GOP governors:
These are not Syrian refugees.
Note to GOP Congress, stop demonizing Planned Parenthood. Note to the Fundie-Fanatic-Fascist GOP POTUS candidates why do you hate the freedom of women to make their own reproductive decisions?
They fear women’s independence because they know women are smarter, although I couldn’t prove it by Kathleen Parker or Sarah Palin.
Women aren’t smarter than men. It’s just that women, on average, have to be more practical about money if the family is to be housed, clothed and fed. Men have different priorities; their “entertainment” money comes off the top. Off the bottom for women.
Difficult to exercise power over a woman if she’s independent. And maybe that “power over” desire/impulse isn’t a strictly male thing. Women have been known to dominate their man and children and fear the independence of either.
That entertainment money part hit home. I was being squeezed by my employer in the late ’80s (wasn’t everyone?) and my father found out that I had no money at all in my wallet, because for me my family responsibilities come first. I was astounded when he told me that no matter what (and we had some very hard times when I was a kid) he took 20% off the top of his paycheck and give the rest to my Mom to run the household. He spent the 20% on booze and cigarettes, not other women. My Dad never did that.
I told him I couldn’t do that, my wife and daughter came first. He started giving me cash whenever I visited. It was very embarrassing for a forty year old man to have his father slipping him a fiver like I was still a teenager.
Consider that financial assistance as restitution.
I used the term “entertainment” because the form in individual cases varies too widely and “vice” has become archaic and that doesn’t capture all the ways that men squander money that is needed by his family. There’s a middle section in the movie “Howard and Melvin” that beautifully captures this.
Will Mississippi give Johnny Mount the death penalty he so richly deserves?
Is this why the Tea Party craves concealed carry so much?
You know I oppose general gun bans, but this jerk had absolutely no reason to be carrying a gun in that diner. If the neighborhood was that dangerous that had to be armed why would he sit and eat there instead of somewhere else? No, frankly the gun was an extension of his penis and when a woman gave him orders his penis was under attack.
Colorado Springs police sound very restrained. If five Chicago cops were wounded in a stand off, you can bet that he would have been shot resisting arrest, even if they had to put a gun in his dead hand afterward.
The CS LEO restraint does seem to be unusual. Should be SOP. Hope it is in this case. However, something else may be operative here. As a hotbed of fundies, they wouldn’t want to risk blowing away one of their own. The wingers are currently calling this terrorist-murderer a hero. Those folks are armed and odds are high that at least one of them wouldn’t hesitate to take out a cop involved in an extrajudicial killing of fundie warrior. Have any of these anti-abortion killers not been taken alive?
They make me wish they were right about the existence of Hell.
Police restraint certainly took place at the scene of this case. Interesting but sadly unsurprising that almost none of the response from the right wing that I have read has called for the death penalty for this cop and civilian killer, or expressed wishes that the cops had blown him away at the scene. It’s always culture warfare for most of them, and moral relativism is shown to be awfully bipartisan, again.
The cops weren’t the only ones with agency at the scene, though. The shooter surrendered and decided not to finish with a suicide-by-cop or suicide by his own hand, and I’m going to guess that this guy will end up taking the self-appointed title of King Godbotherer. Martyrdom isn’t just for Muslims, after all.
So far looks as if he had a loose connection to reality. However, his target was PP; so, he had absorbed rightwing Xtrain demonization of a woman’s healthcare clinic and those that promulgate that hate bear responsibility for that. As do all merchants of hate when anyone of their listeners take it upon themselves to do what the hatemongers call for.
As far as I’m concerned, ALL mass murderers are delusionally ill. I agree there needs to be legal standards to ascertain when a person is completely mentally disabled, but even when murderers don’t meet the legal standards, we can say that each and every one of them lacked justification for their acts.
I concede the need to establish motive for the criminal, but I’m fascinated by the media’s interest in understanding “WHY?” mass murderers did what they did. It’s not as if we’re really going to stop doing the thing that the murderer was provoked by and wants stopped; it’s a pure delusion all around.
The murderer was in extreme psychological and emotional pain, couldn’t deal with his pain, and wanted out from the life he was living. That’s the bottom line for almost everyone in these cases. It’s beyond offensive that he needs to kill others to deal with his pain, though.
If that were the case we would only convict professional contract killers. And a case could be made that they are mentally ill also. No, we have to keep the loose legal standard, “Did you know what you were doing? Did you know it was against the law?”. Punishment can be argued separately.
I totally agree that we need legal standards to establish sanity.
Thanks for collecting this in a diary, M3, now I am up to date on the various murderous activities of our madhouse this weekend. By Sunday night, you could probably post 5 more!
I think the first step is to get the corporate media to simply start using the word “terrorist” when describing killings like the PP gun violence attack. There is no other word for them unless one categorically refuses to report on the reality. Maybe when/if that happens we can move on to the next step: “Christianist terrorist” or “Christian terror”, which is simply the mirror image of how our GOoPer prez he-roes demand that Muslim terror be denominated.
As for the loathsome psychotic Mr Mount, I guess this is what Biloxians and their gun right allies are quite prepared to put up with, ad infinitum. In Gun Nation one has a measurable non-trivial chance of being killed in gun violence whenever one goes out for coffee. That is what we live with, and foreign tourists need to understand that reality.
And the poor schmoes who have to deal personally with the deranged public (like this unfortunate waitress) have an even greater danger of being killed for angering a (male) gun nut. Simply “disrespecting” a gun nut or challenging their shit gets you killed. That’s (your) price for (their) Freeeedum!
And we never add up the collective cost of gun freedom for a few. Just the cost of medical care and law enforcement required in response to the mayhem perpetrated by one man in Colorado Springs yesterday is enormous. We can’t even measure the cost of the trauma on all those people.
So, three days on, what is publicly known about CS PP killer? His story is slowly being pieced together but the profile isn’t yet consistent.
The Post and Courier adds more to what has been reported by other media.
Far more serious than the other disputes that appear on this record later.
[The four children is consistent with Dear, Sr.’s obituary.]
This is different from what the NYTimes obtained from the third wife, Pamela Ross. Ms. Ross also claimed that she and Dear had a sixteen year relationship when they divorced in 2000 and sometime after their divorce, their son lived with Dear. Ms. Ross is under the impression that Dear lived a number of years in KY and graduated from a college somewhere in the Midwest.