Casual Observation

12 Comments

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   centerfielddj on November 30, 2015 at 4:30 pm

   I read this summary a few minutes before you laid down this post. How these…people who are Trump supporters expect to maintain the respect of the members of their church and gain the interest of those they hope to attract to their church is waaaay beyond me.

   Also, too, this is the sort of thing that happens when you don’t have a well-constructed, well-supported, professional campaign team. I expect this sort of embarrassing “miscommunication” to continue to happen to the Donald’s campaign. In the future, these misunderstandings will most likely be with organizations and individuals much more important to the GOP base than a bunch of black church leaders. It’s one of the many things I expect will prevent Trump from gaining the nomination.

   What do you want to bet that Trump insults these black church leaders in the next 24 hours and his poll numbers bump up among white evangelicals? It’s been racism before Dominionism for these people so far; don’t see how that trend will end with this.

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     MNPundit on November 30, 2015 at 5:11 pm

     Uh it was planned. Most people heare he was endorsed by black pastors. Then if you say he wasnt, it was lies, all it does is reinforce the lie.

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   aarrgghh on November 30, 2015 at 4:48 pm

   to be fair, money and fame are not small things and they can make up for a lot of injustices. it’s the sins one has to commit in acquiring them that make them problematic.

   one of my rotating email sigs reads:

   “what you have become is the price you paid to get what you used to want.” — mignon mclaughlin, 1963

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   Marie3 on November 30, 2015 at 6:20 pm

   Come on Martin — this is America and our primary principles are money and fame.  And the ordinary bloke believes if they get within spitting distance of wealth or celebrity that it will rub off on to themselves.  They’ll stand in line in the rain for hours just to get near the rich and famous for three seconds.  

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     n1cholas on November 30, 2015 at 7:30 pm

     What you describe is classic Mammon worship.

     Which, unsurprisingly, describes much of American Christianity.

     AmericanChristians^TM just wrap up Mammon in a Jesus-suit, tear out the New Testament, and start screaming at you about Leviticus and Deuteronomy.

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   TarheelDem on November 30, 2015 at 9:02 pm

   Trump is not the first nor likely the last to understand that the way to too many preachers’ endorsement is through an overly generous check in the church offering plate.  The preacher (and his board of deacons/trustees/directors) can decide where that money goes.

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     Marie3 on November 30, 2015 at 9:38 pm

     Most would happily provide the endorsement for a ride on Trump’s private jet to any vacation spot.

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       TarheelDem on December 1, 2015 at 9:25 am

       Where was the conference with Trump, and who paid for the travel expenses?

       That is the way I see it happening on a Trumpjet.

       The offering contribution is the way that I have seen it played at the local level.  Preachers who are politically active get large donations from developers that they can direct at their discretion.  Those donations sometimes go for the parsonage, sometimes to augment the pastor’s salary, sometimes for new gizmos for the church building, sometimes for the pastor’s car.  Rarely for anything that could be called programmatic ministry.

       And we are talking all ethnic groups and pretty much all denominations here.

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         Indianadem on December 1, 2015 at 10:17 pm

         Makes me wonder just a little what the inflated value of 30 pieces of silver would be these days.

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   rikyrah on November 30, 2015 at 10:22 pm

   2 piece and a biscuit slave catchers on the pole.

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   Bloix on December 1, 2015 at 10:56 am

   Do you know what the prosperity gospel is? It’s affinity fraud. These people were fraudsters before they heard of Trump.

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   rikyrah on December 1, 2015 at 12:10 pm

   zizi brought it to Fast Talking Dyson

   she brought RECEIPTS!

   ……………………..

   m.e. dyson misses prez obama’s forest for symbolic trees

   by @zizii2

   Dyson says: “Yes She Can”

   In this very title lies the crux of a derailed argument that Michael Eric Dyson’s latest travelogue pushes in the New Republic about President Obama vs. SOS Hillary Clinton. How does Dyson arrive at this grand flourish? He traveled with Mrs. Clinton from New York to Atlanta, observed her interaction with the “old Black Guard,” Black Lives Matter activists, and concluded: “Yes She Can.” Can, What? Stay tuned.

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   But first, some cold hard FACTS before we indulge Dyson any further. In case he missed it, Prez Obama ALWAYS says: “Yes WE Can”, not “Yes I can”. He never lost sight of the collective effort required to drive the disparate gears that grind within this country toward the collective good.

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   And Contrary to Dyson’s erasure of the Obama Administration’s tangible achievements for Americans, and especially minorities, this is where we have been these past 7 years in three key areas: a) Economy & Employment, b) Healthcare, c) Incarceration rates

   http://theobamadiary.com/2015/12/01/m-e-dyson-misses-prez-obamas-forest-for-symbolic-trees/