The fate of nations ultimately rests of the quality of their political establishment, and it often matters more, in the end, what a Talleyrand or Kissinger actually does than even what a monarch or dictator or president might think at any given time. The character of a people probably matters less than the leadership they produce, and since the leadership’s control of information makes them largely responsible for the opinions and passions of the people, what they choose to “teach” the people is largely determinative of the people’s character.
Representative government is less some magic way of overcoming these dynamics than a way for there to be some accountability and self-correction in the system. It’s also much easier to govern when the governed consent to be governed, and the more consent you can generate, the more freedom, rights and security the establishment can provide. In any nation or political society, there is a system of laws and norms that more or less perfectly provide for freedom, rights, and security, and when the system malfunctions, the consent begins to disappear. When dissent arises, security is diminished and it becomes necessary to chip away at rights and freedoms to restore it, if possible. In an extreme case, civil war is required to restore consent and therefore security and thereby freedoms and rights. In less extreme cases, a goodly dose of repression and brutality and terror can manufacture consent, but it does so by giving up on providing freedom, rights, or the true security that comes with the ability to express your real conscience.
We used to see the latter situations in places like Libya, Iraq, and Syria, and now we see the former.
Keep this in mind when reading Jeff Greenfield’s piece in Politico about the Republican establishment bolting the party if Donald Trump is the nominee to back a third-party candidate. Greenfield has talked to many people who are accustomed to providing leadership to the nation not through any formal arrangement whereby the people selected them as representatives, but more as individuals with the money and connections that confers actual power. These aren’t just kingmakers in the traditional sense, and their predicament is partly that they seem to have lost their kingmaking ability. More importantly, they are part of a class of people whose opinions shape what actually happens when the government has to make big decisions. We might wish that these people didn’t exist, but they always do, in every society. And, if they’re a rotten lot of selfish short-sighted bastards, national ruin is likely to follow in short order. If, on the other hand, they have wisdom and generosity of heart, they are likely to steady the ship of state.
On the right, the establishment in this country is trying to come to terms with the fact that the Republican Party seems increasingly poised to nominate someone who it would simply be irresponsible to make president of the United States. And, as greedy and short-sighted as they may be, and as much responsibility for their own predicament as they may have, they aren’t prepared to argue that Donald Trump would be an acceptable leader.
As Greenfield points out, Trump’s Republican opponents have called him everything from “unhinged” to a “drunk driver” to “a cancer on conservatism.” The word “fascist” is being used to describe Trumpism with increasingly frequency, and just as often on the right as on the left.
This is not the usual rhetoric of intraparty battles, the kind of thing that gets resolved in handshakes under the convention banners. These are stake-in-the-ground positions, strongly suggesting that a Trump nomination would create a fissure within the party as deep and indivisible as any in American political history, driven both by ideology and by questions of personal character.
Indeed, it would be a fissure so deep that, if the operatives I talked with are right, Trump running as a Republican could well face a third-party run—from the Republicans themselves.
It’s true that personal character is a big part of the objection to Trump, but it’s more than that. There’s an ideological component, certainly, because Trump isn’t a consistent conservative by any means. But, whatever low opinion you may have of the Republican establishment, they also have a basic feeling of responsibility for the well-being of the nation. As much as they might dislike Hillary Clinton, and as frequently that they will predict that she’d be a disaster as a president, they seem to agree that she’d be less of a risk than Trump.
Says one self-described “structural, sycophantic Republican” who has been involved at high levels of GOP campaigns for decades: “Hillary would be bad for the country—he’d be worse.”
The objection isn’t wholly high-minded. There is a real instinct for self-preservation at play, too, because it is widely assumed that Trump would not actually become president; he would lose, and bring other Republican candidates down with him.
But what kind of defections? Based on the folks I’ve talked with, it could take different forms. One is a simple, quiet step away from any work on behalf of the top of the ticket. That’s what the self-described “structural, sycophantic Republican”—will do. While he fervently hopes Trump will meet the fate of past front-runners like [Rudy] Giuliani and [Newt] Gingrich, he says that in the event of Trump’s victory, “I would put all my heart, soul and energy into saving the Senate. I’d work to turn out votes so that [Kelly] Ayotte and [Pat] Toomey and [Ron] Johnson survive. In the end, every Republican, every conservative, knows what a disaster it would be to have Clinton as president. So the key is to make sure the checks and balances were in place.”
Refusing to work for the top of the ticket while trying to reduce the down-ballot damage is a minimalist reaction. That’s basically what much of the Democratic establishment opted for in 1972 when they didn’t feel that they could support George McGovern. And they had some success with that strategy.
A more radical countermeasure, however, is to run an actual third-party candidate against Trump, knowing full-well that it will assure that the Democrats retain the presidency.
Dan Schnur spent a lifetime in the vineyards of the Republican Party, working in the Reagan and Bush presidential campaigns and serving as communications director for the California Republican Party. He’s now an independent and heads the Unruh Institute of Politics at USC. He argues “a Trump nomination would virtually guarantee a third-party campaign from a more traditional Republican candidate.”
Why a Republican? The short answer is to save the party over the long term. “It’s impossible to conceive that Republican leaders would simply forfeit their party to him,” he says. “Even without the formal party apparatus, they’d need to fly their flag behind an alternative, if only to keep the GOP brand somewhat viable for the future. Otherwise, it would be toxic for a long, long time.”
Here’s Romney’s top strategist, Stu Stevens:
“I think a third candidate would be very likely on many state ballots,” he says. “First of all, I think most GOP voters would want an alternative to vote for out of conscience. But Trump would also be devastating to the party and other GOP candidates. A solid conservative third candidate would give options to senators like [Kelly] Ayotte, [Ron] Johnson and [Mark] Kirk to run with someone else and still be opposed to Hillary. In fact, I think it’s plausible such a candidate could beat Trump in many states.”
Over the weekend, the New York Times published a piece by popular historian Kevin Baker that is well worth reading. It’s basically a review of the interplay of political parties since the country’s inception, and a repudiation of the idea that the system works better when the two main parties offer clear distinctions to the voters. His most compelling example comes from 1944 when Wendell Wilkie approached FDR about joining forces to create a new political party that would shut out the conservatives.
DURING the tumultuous wartime summer of 1944, President Franklin D. Roosevelt fielded an incredible proposal. His Republican opponent from 1940, Wendell Willkie, would quit his party and join the president in a new, liberal coalition.
Both men had grown deeply frustrated with the conservative factions of their own parties. The more isolationist Republican “Old Guard” had just blocked Willkie’s bid to win his party’s nomination again, and scoffed in particular at his idea for a postwar “world government.” A coalition, Roosevelt told a close adviser, would enable the Democrats “to get rid of its reactionary elements in the South, and to attract to it the liberals in the Republican Party,” while “leaving the conservatives in both parties to join together as they see fit.”
Roosevelt elaborated: “We ought to have two real parties — one liberal and the other conservative. As it is now, each party is split by dissenters.”
Baker views this idea as misguided and devotes most of his essay to explaining why, but the need was perceived at the time by the establishment of both parties because events were too fraught to leave the conservatives in charge of something as powerful as one of our two viable political parties.
The situation today is similar in some ways, but also quite different.
I can’t see Mitt Romney going to Hillary Clinton and suggesting that they join forces to sideline Trump or some other equally deranged and more consistently conservative Republican nominee. Yet, the need is definitely there, especially on the right. The Democrats are struggling with their own populist uprising, but it’s not over something as morally urgent as Jim Crow. Consent is beginning to crumble on both sides, though, and anti-government acts are becoming more frequent leading to a diminished sense of security and the predictable need to ramp up countermeasures that diminish the rights and freedoms of the people.
There’s a growing consensus that our establishment has failed us and isn’t worthy. Self-correction has broken down. Accountability is in short supply.
We can’t abolish the establishment. They are always with us in every society. But they need to –we need them to– get their act together.
So, we don’t need the old guard Republicans to run a third-party candidate to protect their brand. What we need is something more like what Wilkie and Roosevelt envisioned, which is a new consensus that is built to address the root causes of this populist revolt and deal with it in a way that is satisfactory enough to restore our belief in the system. Without that, consent will continue to wither, along with our freedoms and rights.
Now, as then, conservatives need to be sidelined so that responsible people can make the urgent decisions that need to be made.
You act like a populist revolt is obviously a bad thing. But put that aside, have you seen anywhere, on any side, a real acknowledgement by elites that its they who have failed? We have Pharma Bro and Tim Cook calling taxes crap. And of course the real question for me is whether technology can prevent any revolt in the end.
A right-wing populist revolt is a very bad thing indeed.
“Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.”
I don’t believe that even though you can find the aphorism is some ancient book.
Annotated edition: Republicans like to cite the Bible. A celebrated Biblical verse describes their establishment’s dilemma. Having sown racist wingnuttery, it now reaps the harvest of a racist wingnut frontrunner. The irony does not depend upon the truth value of the verse.
The conservative establishment has long since lost any interest in acting like an establishment.
When the Supreme Court said that money is speech, let it flow over elections like the Flood, they pronounced it good. Now everyone who can amass the money can run a candidate of their own (see Rubio, Marco).
When Clear Channel bought up most of the radio markets in the country, they pronounced it good. Now they have to answer to scum like Limbaugh, and can never, ever criticize him.
When their party (and a compliant, douchey, bathetic media) tried to take down Bill Clinton, they pronounced it good. Now the idiotic constitution-wavers in their party are the majority.
I’m hoping they have a come to Jesus moment, but I don’t think they’ve suffered nearly enough. I don’t think getting absolutely clobbered in 2016 would be nearly enough. I don’t know what would be enough.
“…whatever low opinion you may have of the Republican establishment, they also have a basic feeling of responsibility for the well-being of the nation…”
Really???
Which Republican establishment is that? The establishment that attempted to impeach a sitting president for getting a blow job?
The establishment that shut down the government twice in 6 years?
The establishment that declared on the day of inauguration that the mission was to be sure to do ANYTHING to defeat that president in four years?
The establishment that started a war, based on lies, so that the R’s could win a mid-term election and W could resolve some daddy issues?
The establishment that pulled the October surprise in 1980 risking world nuclear holocaust to get Reagan elected?
Please tell me exactly WHY I should believe that this establishment has a basic feeling of responsibility? Because, quite frankly, I DON’T SEE IT.
Let’s get one thing straight: the only reason why the GOP establishment is against Trump is because of general election polls and demographic trends. If Trump polled better for the general and/or the year was, say, 1980 or even 1996 they’d be considerably more sanguine about the possibility of a Trump Presidency.
Because, let’s face it, as much of a jerkwad Trump is he’s still not as big of a clown as Ronald Reagan was, governorship or not. That chicken has already been fucked.
Yea, if they can’t pick their own ignorant, xenophobic, bigoted, corrupt, science denying, fundamentalist candidate themselves they are going to take their football and go home. You have to wonder what bothers them more- that Trump might cost them votes or they can’t pull his strings and make his mouth move.
You know what will happen if Trump wins the Republican nomination? Republicans will salute and vote for him. No one of significance will run as a third party candidate. And sadly, he will have a decent chance of winning the election.
Yes — because objectively there’s not a single 2016 GOP POTUS candidate that it would be “responsible” to nominate.
This. My biggest problem with Trumpnado is the media pursing their collective lips in disgust because the “responsible, ‘real Republican’ candidates aren’t getting the attention Trump is. As if any of them are “better” than Trump. The establishment just doesn’t like that Trump is not Atwatering while using his inside voice.
I was nodding along until your final two paragraphs. Since locating an economically liberal Republican set is probably as unlikely as finding a dodo bird, I presume you are looking to elide that root cause of liberal disaffection and wave social issues at us.
Unfortunately, need and likelihood do not necessarily go together.
That is our problem right now.
Yes, I don’t see how any kind of consensus involving the current Republican establishment is going to be an improvement over the mess that we’ve got right now. Certainly we don’t need any consensus that involves returning Ayotte, Johnson, and Kirk to the Senate.
I mean, aside from heading off the threat of Trump, the status quo is already unacceptable, and Hillary Clinton plus a Republican Congress is a recipe for continued gridlock and stasis, at best. The one thing that makes the idea of a Clinton presidency palatable (to me, at least) is the idea that she just might, conceivably, have a Democratic Congress to work with. God forbid the Democratic establishment should decide it’s more important to stop Trump.
Clinton plus a Republican Congress is TTP on steroids.
But, whatever low opinion you may have of the Republican establishment, they also have a basic feeling of responsibility for the well-being of the nation.
Hahahahahahaha!! You can’t really believe that, do you? Not after what you know Yertle the Turtle & Co. did the day Obama was elected(or was it his inauguration day)?
I suppose you might say they have a feeling of responsibility for the well-being of the nation as they conceive it. But yes, this post does immediately follow one in which the Republican establishment were characterized as a furious army of destructive trolls.
Boo:
Any chance you’re interested in running for PA-06? I hear the DCCC tried, and failed, to recruit a former GOPer to run.
If that is not typical. Maybe they need to change their label. Drop the “Democratic”.
Where would I get the money to do that?
Do a Kickstarter and see what your intertube status nets as political candidate?
How much would you need? You certainly could raise $250,000 since you’re an internet celebrity, right? Correct me if I’m wrong but the deadline for the primary is approximately Valentine’s Day. I have to see how much the filing fee is. But if it’s something like $50 or $100, I might do it myself. What would I run on? Bernie’s platform would do pretty well, I think. Given what happened in 2008, and the new district lines, I could probably get 35% with out trying. It’s a starting base.
Boo, if nobody files as a democrat, I’ll pay your filing fee.
Shit happens, people get arrested for white slavery, people die, people do drugs and go crazy, the top of the list could do drugs and go crazy …. no congressional seat should be allowed to run without a D on the other side. You don’t have to campaign unless something happens to make you competitive … then you’ll be able to find the $$$ from Hillary & Co to make a run.
We have one party which is an excellent fit for the unelected class of people whose opinions shape what actually happens when the government has to make big decisions.
Why haven’t they all joined that party?
We point fingers at the Republicans, but we live, institutionally and culturally, in a two-party system. When the party of the ‘left’ rejects everything everything even moderately-uncomfortably leftist (first example that springs to mind; if we were the right, the two-tour-serving Marine preacher named Reverend Wright would’ve become a -hero-) where is the other party supposed to go?
“But, whatever low opinion you may have of the Republican establishment, they also have a basic feeling of responsibility for the well-being of the nation.”
No offense intended, but please provide specific examples, preferably with links, that prove this. Not snark, just would love to be educated (really).
I surely don’t see it. I’m not all that convinced that the Democratic establishment (DNC, Debbie WS, et al) have the well-being of the nation in mind, either. Just saying.
The “establishment” – imo – is mainly made up of different factions of the .0001% who vie and jockey with one another for different forms of power. Deep State, along with their “front” peeps, the Alphabets & MIC, really run the show. These psychopaths are not responsible in any way, except to enrich and enhance their greedy selves, damn the torpedoes full speed ahead.
Must say that, from where I sit, the R-Branch of the UniParty does seem particularly & especially delusional, selfish and, actually, stupid.
As pointed out in the prior post, they’re totally against anything from the recent Paris Climate Summit, based allegedly on the usual canard that it’s bc of the dreaded BLAH in “our” White House, who “wants” it. Of course, every single other nation on the planet wants at least some of those measures to happen, and we witness the bigger developing nations, such as China & India, actually taking serious steps to make measurable changes. Yet it’s the GOP who continues to be the ONE entity marching to the beat of their own personal “drummers” vapidly with cupidity insisting that THEY, and only they, are the ones with the super secret knowledge that all of this is LIEbrul hoax that can be ignored ad nauseum in to infinity.
The R-Team takes their “responsibility” to the nation seriously? No offense, but: BAH-loney. Not even close.
The Kevin Baker piece is interesting, but this really just isn’t true:
If they were more concerned about the excesses of power than getting things done, they wouldn’t have taken the trouble to draft a new Constitution. The whole reason for the convention was that nothing was getting done under the Articles of Confederation, and this had much to do with an excessive concern about the excesses of power.
the Republican Party seems increasingly poised to nominate someone who it would simply be irresponsible to make president of the United States.
With a septuagenarian nominee, these folks chose Palin as the VP nominee. If I think for a few minutes, not sure I could come up with any GOP POTUS nomination in the past 75 years that was responsible.
Fox poll fwiw:
Is 45% stupid/racist among Democrats an improvement since the 1940s? Nearly half of them being sufficiently partisan and/or cowed into being PC seems about right.
From the article:…It would represent a more radical kind of shift, with power moving from party officials and office-holders to deeply alienated voters and to their media tribunes.
That is curious. If Bernie had been given same mainstream press coverage for his “outrageous” socialist proposals, I wonder if there would have been a similar shift from Democratic establishment in voters? I kinda doubt it, myself. We have been diluted down to insipid.
The problem is that Sanders, as good as he is at articulating issues and solution proposals, can’t be boiled down into “X is bad; kill/ban X” that feeds into preexisting, emotional biases, most of which have been promulgated for decades. Generations of people hearing “commies are evil and coming to take our goodies away, and therefore, it’s the duty of the US to kill them at home and abroad whenever we can” are predisposed to responding the same way if “Muslim,” “terrorist,” or even Nazi is substituted for “commie.” Red baiting preceded the rise of Hitler and Nazi Germany and there was only a time out on that after Hitler, who was favored by many in this country, gained enough power that Germany was a threat to US.
What does the Democratic party machine think about our future as USA punks? The party machine, that’s what it used to be called. Now it’s the establishment or the elites. Much more posh, country club-like.
‘May the Force be with you.’ How much money did Disney give to the Clinton Foundation to get Hillary Clinton to say that at the end of the debate. Toothpaste is far below her pay grade.
Debbie Wassermann Schultz and Rahm Emmanuel are as party machine as you can get. No kidding!
Um, I’ll go with zero.
Lick my back and I’ll lick yours: that;s more than zero.
Annotated edition: Secretary Clinton made a pop-culture reference to the biggest opening weekend grossing movie of all time, which helps her, not J.J. Abrams; the latter’s donations will buy him other things more useful than the citation of a catch phrase.
does everything have to be a damn conspiracy?
Who needs conspiracy speculations when pols today can take million dollar checks and give a nationally televised shout out for a donor’s product? That’s how the top political elites do business. Not like the amateurs such as the McDonnells and Jesse Jackson Juniors.
Funny how they don’t get it. They’re so assimilated in the corporate system they can’t see how it works.
They get it quite easily when its Koch, etc. money buying Republicans (and vice versa). So, have to conclude that it’s conscious, partisan, willful ignorance. Also known as hypocrisy. What they don’t get is that such hypocrisy damages their chosen political party and politics in general. Then they whine about people not interested in voting for a political party or candidates that are dishonest.
I know how things work, you don’t have some kind of special knowledge.
What you fail to mention is what’s the alternative for this election cycle?
A twist on product placement in films. lol I like the idea of having candidates obliged to wear NASCAR jackets with their sponsor’s patches displayed.
Could Americans handle that much truth? I suspect it wouldn’t bother those that are engaged in politics and/or vote at all and merely confirm for non-voters why voting is meaningless. It likely would lead to more strident partisan fights as to which sponsors are good and which are bad. Heightened by some large multiplier from the current Koch v. Soros spats.
J.J. Abrams, the director of the most recent Star Wars, recently gave a Clinton-supporting super PAC $1,000,000. Yes, one million dollars.
Booman Tribune ~ The Establishment Needs to Get Its Act Together
Seeing how things tend to improve when the elite comes up against the very real prospect of getting violently replaced, I think the last part should be more like: “If, on the other hand, they have a well-founded fear of getting shot if they don’t deliver the conditions for ordinary people to live a decent life, they are likely to steady the ship of state.”