This is just a quick piece. I am not going to try to fully re-litigate President Obama’s decision to not enforce his red line in Syria. However, I want to begin by noting one of the most critical pieces of information in this entire debate. The president was being pushed to go to war by virtually everyone, and his own Intelligence Chief wouldn’t swear to him that Assad was responsible for the Sarin attack.
Obama was also unsettled by a surprise visit early in the week from James Clapper, his director of national intelligence, who interrupted the President’s Daily Brief, the threat report Obama receives each morning from Clapper’s analysts, to make clear that the intelligence on Syria’s use of sarin gas, while robust, was not a “slam dunk.” He chose the term carefully. Clapper, the chief of an intelligence community traumatized by its failures in the run-up to the Iraq War, was not going to overpromise, in the manner of the onetime CIA director George Tenet, who famously guaranteed George W. Bush a “slam dunk” in Iraq.
In fact, when John Kerry tried to present the evidence to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, his performance was so risible and inept that I was on the verge of giving up entirely on the Obama administration.
This should be the beginning point for judging what the president did about his “red line.”
But it nowhere enters into the conversation when Washington Post columnist Jackson Diehl discusses this history. Obama’s failure to attack a country over something he isn’t sure they are actually responsible for doing is cast as the cause of all manner of worldwide aggression.
…I heard from dozens of foreign ministers and other senior officials of U.S. allies as they visited Washington in the months and years that followed. Japanese, South Koreans, Singaporeans and even Indians confided that they were convinced that Obama’s failure to use force against the regime of Bashar al-Assad was directly responsible for China’s subsequent burst of aggression in territorial disputes in the East China Sea and South China Sea.
Poles, Lithuanians and French drew a line between the backdown and Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. As for the Sunni Arabs, Turks and Israelis, it is an article of faith that Obama’s decision accelerated the catastrophe that Syria, and much of the rest of the Middle East, has become.
Amazingly, Jackson Diehl doesn’t provide one quote or even a link to substantiate his allegations. Instead, he circles the square with this:
If Indians and Japanese, Poles and Latvians, Israelis and Saudis are convinced that the United States damaged its deterrence and invited aggression — and that they must adjust their own policies accordingly — it almost doesn’t matter if Obama is right in insisting that Putin and Xi Jinping took no cues from him. The global conventional wisdom has created its own reality.
Let me translate this for you. Diehl is saying, “It doesn’t really matter if what I’m saying is true because everyone in the world believes it to be true, which I can’t substantiate with even a measly quote from an anonymous deputy foreign minister from some emirate or another. But everyone believes it is true even though I can’t be bothered to find a single link on the whole internet to demonstrate that anyone believes it is true. But it’s true that people believe it even if it isn’t actually true, and this is all Obama’s fault because he didn’t attack first and ask questions later.”
I promised not to re-litigate the whole history here, but there are two additional points that ought to be considered.
First, people scoffed at Gaddafi and Assad when they said their opponents were terrorists and al-Qaeda sympathizers. But, when it came to actual fighting power their claims were true, as soon became obvious. So, supporting the overthrow of either of them comes with a cost that you might be willing to pay or might not be willing to pay. At a certain point, it became obvious that the Israelis and the Russians and the Iranians and the Syrian Christians were right, and Assad was better than the alternative. People like Jackson Diehl didn’t want to hear that. They just wanted Obama to follow through on a threat he had made.
Second, what Obama actually did instead of “bombing the shit” out of Syria was work with Russia to remove their stockpile of chemical weapons so the folks we were supposed to be supporting couldn’t get their hands on them. You know, because the folks we were supposed to be supporting were indistinguishable from al-Qaeda.
So, Obama didn’t start a war with a county over an issue his Intelligence Director couldn’t vouch for; he didn’t do everything he could do put al Qaeda in charge of Syria, and he made sure that if al Qaeda did take over all of Syria that they wouldn’t have Assad’s weapons of mass destruction to play with.
But he supposedly showed weakness and lack of resolve!
No wonder Obama is pleased with his decision and contemptuous of the “Washington Playbook” that Jackson Diehl tries to enforce.
Was John Kerry channeling Ronald Reagan’s unbalanced cold warrior performance that he put on at the Iceland summit for Gorby? I did wonder. Or that he was nuts.
I think Obama and Putin have reached an agreement that Assad stays to stabilize the place. A secular govt is the only hope for the displaced minorities in the north to return home.
War can never fail. It can only be failed. Only constant war can keep the peace. War is peace.
Now give me a think-tank job.
I have often been disappointed in President Obama. I have the usual complaints that you hear: didn’t prosecute war criminals, didn’t send any banksters to jail, stayed true to his bipartisan brand even when the GOP went to treasonous levels of sabotage, and so on. And worst, he rode a progressive Movement to office, and then instantly dropped it like a hot potato and morphed into the ultimate insider.
But when it comes to foreign policy, his restraint is so important in the face of constant MIC pressure. I can’t believe how we went from “Vietnam Syndrome” to Gulf War 1 all the way to “we must constantly bomb the fuck out of countries where we wish for regime change.”
This is what happens when the neocon Iraq war architects get a huge pass from the MSM and the beltway gatekeepers. After they visited disaster upon this nation, we desperately needed them to be discredited forever. Instead, arms sales to the Middle East are through the roof, and GOP candidates sound like a bunch of Curtis Lemay’s with bad aim. Sickening.
I agree with much of what you say. I remain disappointed with a lot of ObamaCo, and I really was emphatically not in favor of the “kinetic action” against Libya, albeit it was mainly France that took the lead there.
That said, I really appreciated much of what Obama did vis Syria and feel it was a smart move.
The NeoCons, and I include HRC in this group, have gone full metal jacket nuts, imo. All they want to do is bomb the sh*t out of everywhere in some attempt to prove that Team USA! USA! USA! is to be kowtowed to. I think it’s a sign of weakness, myself, and it’s clearly bankrupting our nation, whilst enriching the 1% at the expense of US taxpayers.
I remember looking at a graph and the US by far did the most bombings of Libya.
Well, that’s exactly the problem all of our POTUS’s face, isn’t it? The decisions Obama has made have been consistently less violent than both his political adversaries and his own staff have recommended. The preponderance of political pressure is, as usual, for the application of maximal therapeutic violence to achieve the ousting of Assad and the 100% destruction of DAESH/ISIS.
The American people are, thankfully, less convinced than the political class, but that doesn’t mean that the American people are in solid approval of Obama’s actions. He can always be accused of “not doing enough” and “being weak” as long as one terrorist is committing one act anywhere. And you can bet that the 2016 Presidential campaign will only increase that perception.
I can believe that Team USA did more bombings of Libya than anyone else, but my point was that France took the lead in terms of championing the war, er, kinetic action.
Didn’t France end up as the lead by default when Cameron couldn’t get Parliament to go along and that led Obama not to present his to Congress?
No, it was Sarkozy’s project from the start. He was always out front, always spoke first, and the crappy intelligence that overestimated the ability of Libyan “democrats” to take over, as usual, and desperately underestimated the amount of armaments Qadhafi had stored all over the place was French and Italian, not British.
It was also Sarkozy who was suspected of getting illegal campaign contributions from Libya.
Sarkozy’s Re-Election Campaign Could Be Doomed Thanks To These Potentially Bombshell Qaddafi Links – Business Insider
I don’t know if that ever went anyway. Perhaps all evidence was bombed.
Id be more accepting of the tactic if it worked but it never has.
I, too, would like to see at least one measly quote from some foreign dignitary highlighting how their nation was “upset” with Obama’s lack of resolve – or whatever – to bomb the crap out of Syria (or whatever).
I don’t buy it, frankly. My recollection is that his decision was hailed by many as a power play that made sense.
Really, imo, all this is about is that the NeoCon/MIC playbook didn’t get played out. And all THAT is about is MONEY – money in the pockets of greedy 1% pigs, which fleece the US taxpayer for as much as they can get.
Obama’s decision about how he/his Admin handled Syria is one of the decisions I really appreciated. But it’s typical, as I’m totally not a NeoCon, nor have I succumbed to the propaganda Wurlitzer.
Syria has been a slow coup largely driven by the House of Saud and Qatar, with a few Sunni principalities along the Gulf chipping in. The House of Saud has been been trying to create jihads all over the globe, mostly coinciding with US energy interests abroad.
In 2011 Assad chose the gas pipeline originating in Iran, across Iraq and across to the Mediterranean and turned down Qatar’s alternative proposal. In 2011 SOS Clinton approved a big arms deal to Qatar, which is not at war. Suddenly ISIS was born with weapons flowing in their direction from Qatar. (The Clinton Foundation got a nice donation from Qatar, by the way.)
ISIS has been getting lots of its shipments through the frontier with Turkey, convoys of oil trucks going in the other direction to a company in Turkey owned by Erdogan’s son. You know, sort of like how Biden’s son showed up on the board of an energy company in Ukraine after that coup.
When Russia came in it pretty much cut of the trade between Turkey and ISIS by bombing those supply routes.
Essentially, Hillary’s proposal for a no-fly zone would put us directly in confrontation with the Russians. And why a no-fly zone? ISIS has no air force. So she either wants a no-fly zone so that the weapons she sold to Qatar continue to flow to ISIS or to blow them up.
The destruction of Syria was essentially orchestrated by Qatar, the House of Saud and the US.
There were reports in the year prior to the gas attacks that Al-Nusra units had been caught by Turkish border officials moving poison gas samples over the border into Syria. At the time Al-Nusra was labeled as a “good rebel group”. I believe that they are on the bad list now.
In the link to Booman’s previous article above, Booman argues regarding Kerry’s “risible and inept performance”…a perfomance, mind you, that was demonstrably part and parcel of the Obama regime’s foreign policy thrust at that moment because John Kerry had been Sec. State for over 9 months by that time:
Indeed you do.
And when you heed the word of another barefaced liar…James Clapper in this instance, a man who had lied to the U.S. Senate about the extent of U.S. covert surveillance not three months before this foofaraw described in Booman’s post, and later claimed that he had given “the least untruthful answer possible” at that hearing (a phrase that sounds like it was written by Donald Rumsfeld, by the way)…when you not only listen to people like that but tacitly approve of their lying by not summarily firing them after they get caught, you “lose the trust of the people” on all details.
Which is where Obama, any and all of his appointees including Hillary Clinton and the entire mainstream Democratic Party now stand in the eyes of an increasing majority of the U.S. population. Any doubt about that statement can be easily assuaged by simply considering the rise of Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders during this primary season. Hell, Clinton’s whole campaign now stands threatened by her waffling on the emails thing. Trump will be all over that particular set of mistakes. That is, he will be if she is not indicted first.
Cicero had it right over 2000 years ago when he said “Mendaci neque quum vera dicit, creditor. ” (“A liar is not to be believed even when he speaks the truth.”)
Obama has hired and tacitly approved of multiple serial liars, and he, his party and the entire country is now reaping what he has sown.
Booman also wrote above:
You missed you chance, Booman.
You really did.
But it’s never too late.
Or…is it?
Later…
AG
Clapper was just lying to the public when he testified. Lying to the boss is kinda different. Guess was a heads up that they could not fix the evidence well enough?
Hire a liar and instruct him to lie. Where’s the surprise when you are lied to by him?
AG
One thing we can say about hiring liars is that Obama has exposed the nature of our ruling class. And that is something to be thankful for, no?
Thankful for his incompetence at sustaining the fix?
I suppose…
AG
Diehl advocated for the 2003 invasion of Iraq in his columns.
The Post’s early advocacy of the Iraqi war was based on his howling for war.
On that point alone he should sit down and STFU for a decade or so.
Oh that means he cannot write his daily column of war cries and bombastic idiocy,
Well I hear Micky D’s hires people to flip burgers,
David Broder can hand the burgers out, and the rest of us would be better of for it.
Or better yet, how ’bout for . . . well . . . forfuckingever!?
for another good article on the “Washington Playbook” check out Vox “How Saudi Arabia captured Washington” http://www.vox.com/2016/3/21/11275354/saudi-arabia-gulf-washington
This new King is feeling his oats. And behaving like a loose cannon.
“It doesn’t mean that he’s bought and paid for,” one of the experts said, referring to a hypothetical think tanker or academic whose work would be funded by Gulf donations. “But at one level there is a kind of silencing effect. It’s more about what doesn’t get written about.”
A timely paper on identifying power in our current set up that notes it is often about what does NOT get discussed.
http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2016/03/goodbye-to-pluralism-studying-power-in-cont
emporary-american-politics.html
I could live with a 3rd Obama foreign policy term easily.
You could die with it just as easily.
AG
But I die faster under a HRC.
Well, there is something to be said about getting it over quickly, isn’t there?
My rule: all those that supported the invasion of Iraq, as Diehl did, have zero credibility on FP. Not going to waste my brain cells and time considering any of their subsequent pronouncements because those will more likely be wrong again and if they aren’t, there are policy makers, writers, and ordinary people that didn’t flub Iraq and get most things right* and therefore, what they say deserves attention. *(Several did squander their fine reputation on Libya and thus, have dropped a notch down on who to read.)
I’ll give Obama a plus for holding back on bombing the shit out of Syria. But I’m not going to put much credence in the reported back or inside story reports on the decision process because this is the sort of stuff that sitting Presidents have been manipulating at least as far back as JFK. In addition to that, any attempt to evaluate Obama’s performance wrt Syria that doesn’t include everything done by his administration 2009 through 2013 is woefully incomplete and may well be a total whitewash US active destruction of Syria and the “unintended consequences. That is a discussion that cannot take place for a long time, if ever.
Wouldn’t it be more topical and interesting to discuss Frank Rich’s latestet There Was no Republican Establishment After All Can we please retire the notion that Donald Trump is hijacking someone else’s party?
Trump may be brasher and more uncouth in his language than standard GOP pols, but he’s not said nor done anything that doesn’t conform to what the GOP has been saying and doing for decades, with one deviation and one seemingly minor exception. He’s even standard issue GOP candidate — the businessman that gonna run government like a business (am I the only one that remembers all the slobbering over the Bush/Cheney businessman team?).
If all crap that Trump spouts is bankrupt with the general electorate, then so too is the GOP because it’s all the same crap.
The deviation: Trump’s not doing the GOP religious and family man mumbo jumbo. Most GOP candidates highlight their devotion to their one and only wife and family dragging them out for photo-ops. These families could be hired from GOP central family casting as imagined by a Norman Rockwell wannabe. They pray a lot. About as interesting as warmed over mush.
Trump drags out his hot looking third wife who is comfortable in front of cameras and all his kids from his three marriages. Hey, if a family values candidate like Palin can parade her unwed, pregnant teen on national TV and not get any pushback, Trump can get a pass as well.
The seemingly minor exception. Rich sees it through the lens of Trump taking down and supplanting the GOP elites. Trump has convinced millions of Americans that he will take away the power from the pinheads on high and return it to people below who feel (not wrongly) that they’ve gotten a raw deal. It’s the classic populist pitch, and it will not end well for those who invest their faith in Trump. Doubt that Trump viewed this as anything but a populist appeal to 1) get the nomination and 2) run against Clinton. May not have considered a collective freakout by the GOP establishment.
It’s long been astonishing the extent to which getting things consistently wrong carries so little cost in our pundit class. (I’d offer examples, but the list runs on ad infinitum.)
Meanwhile, getting things consistently right gets you very little either.
So much for the vaunted “meritocracy”.
It’s all in how you define wrong, for those with the money, wrong might mean totally different things than we think it does.
Remember what bush jr’s mama said on public radio after visiting the people who had lost most everything after being evacuated to the Astrodome in Houston from the Super-dome after Katrina.
Former first lady Barbara Bush said:
I’ll bet she cannot concieve just how wrong that statement is.
Many people with money, power and especially privilege especially if they grew up that way, are as clueless as she was there.
We’re speaking in terms of right and wrong that are standard for and easily assessed by ordinary people. Not complex hidden criteria used by those to rationalize their wrong acts because they were advantages or profitable for themselves.
B. Bush was roundly criticized for that statement. Doesn’t matter that from her insulated and privileged position she saw nothing wrong with it. It was patronizing and cruel to those that were victims of Katrina and their victimization was the consequence of years of poverty and neglect.
Jackson Diehl is thus objectively pro-ISIS.
That, too, is in the Washington playbook, as I recall.
Yes, in this case, at least, Obama deserves a ton of credit for not more greatly expanding the war and for helping to get the chemical weapons out – though his insistence on covertly, then overtly arming Assad’s “moderate” opponents, who promptly gave or had those weapons taken away by ISIS, did a whole lot to create the problem in the first place.
But at least he showed some restraint. We won’t be nearly so lucky with the next POTUS – and that’s if Hillary “bomb the shit out of everything” Clinton wins. If Trump wins, there’s a decent chance he’ll just nuke whatever hot spot is in question, making life in the Northern Hemisphere untenable and making climate change irrelevant. #WeAreSoFucked
Obama’s failure to attack Bashar Assad is directly responsible for the crash in value of my pension fund, goddammit. Isn’t that just obvious?
Removal and disposal of chemical weapons from Syria and bringing Syria under agreement with the Organization for Prohibition of Chemical Weapons was one of the best decisions made by this administration. Too bad that US chemical weapons experts aren’t ready to go for global elimination of chemical weapons from nation states.
“The president was being pushed to go to war by virtually everyone, and his own Intelligence Chief wouldn’t swear to him that Assad was responsible for the Sarin attack.”
All I can say is, thanks Obama and thanks Booman.
Remember at the time, I wrote several posts to the effect that not only was there no evidence that Assad was “gassing his own people”, but that there was evidence suggesting more likely candidates?
Well, anyway, I did.
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2013/8/30/10536/9036#17
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2013/9/9/104540/3782#1
I was catching flak from some character known as Quicklund.
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2013/9/15/125158/008#14
There’s a lot of factual material linked there that might take on a new interest now.
It was exactly the same kind of bullshit they used to get us into Iraq. Only Obama wasn’t buying it. He deserves a lot of respect for that.
Where does one end and the other begin in the revolving door of tech and government?
“A few weeks back I suggested that former State Department staffer Jared Cohen, now head of Google Jigsaw (formerly Google Ideas) might be abusing his position at the company to stealthily act as an agent for his former government bosses.
[…]
Newly released Hillary Clinton emails, published on Wikileaks, show that Jared Cohen, head of Google Jigsaw, has been acting as a secret agent for the state department, turning the world’s most powerful tech company into a private arm of the US intelligence services.”
https:/pando.com/2016/03/21/new-clinton-emails-show-how-google-collaborated-us-state-department-try
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