Given that it is the great Bard’s 400th. Anniversary, a Shakespearean soliloquy seems apposite. What are the arguments for and against a British exit from the EU, and what are the views of Booman Tribune contributors on the subject?
President Obama has just swung by on his way back from being snubbed in Saudi Arabia, before giving Merkel some much needed succour on the refugee problem. His emphatic endorsement of Britain staying within the EU inspired Brexit lead campaigner Boris Johnson to the heights of Trumpian abuse. Basically Obama said Britain should stay in the EU to maximise its global influence, and suggested that the UK would have to go to the back of the queue if it wanted bi-lateral trade deals post Brexit. And in case anyone should think that Obama is on the way out and therefor cannot speak for the USA on this issue, it should be noted that Eight former republican and Democratic Treasury Secretaries have just written a letter endorsing his point of view.
This struck at the heart of the Brexit case – which has always maintained that Britain could have all the benefits of EU market access, without the costs of EU membership. Britain, the argument goes, is so important in its own right, that other countries including the rump EU Block would be falling over themselves to cut bilateral trade deals with a newly independent UK.
To those who suggested he shouldn’t be interfering in an internal UK debate, Obama noted that there where thousands of Americans in European graves giving testimony to the fact that no Nation is an Island….
And that, perhaps, has been part of the problem. The debate appears to have been carried out largely within England amongst English nationalists who want to wrest more political power back from “Brussels Bureaucrats” with little regard to the impact of Brexit on Scotland, Wales, and N. Ireland; and on the millions of British expats living abroad – many of them within the EU.
Opinion polls are giving the remain side a slim lead, although that has risen from 2 to 7% since Obama’s intervention. However, they were notoriously wrong when predicting the result of the last general election and can be influenced by day-to-day events and media coverage. Experience in Ireland and elsewhere suggests that referenda often become referenda on the popularity of the Government of the day, almost without regard to the substantial issue being voted on. In addition, the more committed side tend to prevail, especial in a lower turnout vote. No one can claim that the no side are not vociferous in their cause, with many simplistic and counter-factual arguments to make their case.
For many it simply comes down to a case of identity: Do you want to be British or European? And there is little doubt that there is a lack of identification with the European project, particularly amongst older, English, and less educated voters.
Cameron’s political problems with the Budget, the Panama papers, and the refugee crisis could not have come at a worse time for the remain campaign – as has the move to the right in many central and eastern European EU members. Everywhere, Xenophobia and nationalism seems to be on the rise, perhaps as austerity has sapped the legitimacy of ruling elites and made people more fearful of their own circumstances.
But perhaps more crucial still has been the loss of any vision in the European project: It has become, at best, a technocratic endeavour devoid of any rallying cry beyond the fast fading memories of the Second World War and its aftermath. As W.B Yeats said of an earlier era:
“Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity”
Some analysts have suggested that the Brexit referendum is just yet another gambit by the UK to renegotiate the terms of membership to it’s own advantage and to force the EU to remodel itself more in the UK’s image. The suggestion is that the UK Government may not necessarily trigger the two year exit negotiations provided for by Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty, but seek to negotiate a better deal for the UK to be put to the electorate again in another referendum in due course.
Again the Irish experience of referenda may be instructive: After initially rejecting the Lisbon Treaty in a low turnout Referendum, the Irish Government negotiated some minor clarifications (which seemed so minor, they have escaped almost everyone’s memory) and put the Treaty to a Referendum again. Despite much resentment that people were being asked to vote again on substantially the same Treaty until they gave the right answer, the Referendum was passed the second time around in a higher turn-out vote.
I think there is a great flaw in this analogy. First of all, there will be great resentment that people are being asked to vote on essentially the same question twice. Many who voted to remain first time around might change their vote to exit in protest at this abuse of democracy.
Secondly, there is no guarantee that the terms of membership on offer as a result of the negotiations will be substantially better from the point of view of UK voters who wish to leave the EU. The damage done to the UK and EU economies by the ensuing prolonged uncertainty are unlikely to make continued membership more attractive. Indeed, the EU will be in an existential crisis at that point, with threats of exit by other nations gathering force should the UK be seen to get an even more advantageous deal. Why would the EU reward those threatening to disintegrate the Union? Indeed, why should Frankfurt and other financial services centres go out of their way to help their major competitors in London?
My guess is that the EU could be quite vindictive towards the UK in those circumstances, and make Brexit as difficult and painful as possible. Anything else would be to encourage others to go down the same route. Any Brexiteers who think they can get a better or even good deal for the UK post a successful vote for Brexit might be in for a very rude shock indeed. The EU leadership might just grow a backbone when its own future existence and stability is threatened. The UK might not even get the deal currently available to Norway or Switzerland, and thus the current UK Treasury median estimate of a 6.2% reduction in GDP (equivalent to a £4,300 loss per annum per household) on exit may prove to be unduly optimistic.
That is not to say that a Brexit would not also be damaging to the EU as a whole, and particularly to a small, open, economy like Ireland. The UK remains Ireland’s main trading partner, despite Ireland’s trade with the UK going down from 70% of our exports to c. 15% since we entered the EU in 1973. Ireland is the only EU country which shares a land border with the UK and all kinds of administrative and political problems will ensue even if special arrangements are put in place to avoid reigniting the N. Ireland troubles. Dublin will however be keen to capture any FDI which might otherwise have gone to the UK, and the damage to the Irish economy may not be anything like as great as it would have been in years gone by.
All in all, a period of potentially great uncertainty, and hence short term economic damage may ensue if the Referendum is passed. Cameron will probably have to resign and be replaced by Boris Johnson or some other anti-EU figure. Sometimes political decisions are simply not reversible even if they prove to have been manifestly wrong headed. We live in interesting times. Let us hope there are better times and leadership for Europe as a whole in the future.
I hope you get out. No accountability for EU bureaucrats for their insistence upon austerity.
EU bureaucrats don’t decide policy. That is decided by the elected leaders of 28 Governments and (to a lesser extent) by the elected EU Parliament). You are buying into Murdock and Maxwell media inspired propaganda if you think policies are decided and implemented by bureaucrats without prior approval of governments.
The ECB and Eurogroup has been working hard to make that propaganda true.
ECB does in practice decide a lot of policy in the deficit countries, policy that should according to the treaties be set by national parliament or on a European level by the European parliament, the Council of ministers and the Commission. And ECB can hardly be called elected even though the governing council consisting of state central bank managers that has been appointed by state central bank boards that has been appointed by state parliament that has been elected by the people, because with such a long chain there is no way for the people to demand accountability. Which is the intended result.
The Eurogroup may be consisting of elected leaders of state governments, but its informal role and its ability to remove elected leaders and thus representatives in the Eruogroup from the weakest states (most notably Greece) makes its status as democratic body rather weak.
All that said, this does not apply to the UKs austerity. As they are not members of the eurozone, their austerity is a self-inflicted wound.
There is no doubt that the failure of national governments to pursue sensible fiscal policies has given the ECB and inordinate responsibility and role in stimulating growth through monetary policy. But they are trying to counter act austerity, not exacerbate it, in all countries except Greece, which has to be a stain on everyone’s copybook.
In addition the Troika are an artificial construct without any direct legitimacy.
But none of this directly effects the UK, or justifies the usual bashing of Brussels Bureaucrats making decisions over the heads of the UK government.
And who in the UK gives a damn about Greece anyway – except expat Greeks. It’s just another stick to beet the EU with and make Brits feel more smug and superior… It’s not as if the UK has played a positive role in helping the EU or EZ deal with its problems.
The arrogance of Barack Obama knows no boundaries … pushing Anglo-American moral and economic “values” down the throats of European nations … TTIP … upping defence spending to prepare for more wars instigated by neoconservatives, the Pentagon and NATO run by US military with a US commander who is bats crazy. Security trumps protection of privacy of its citizens … corporate power trumps safety precautions .. labor unions to be outphased … trickle down economic wealth is good for Europeans too.
See my diary – Clinton: UK Our Trojan Horse for TTIP Into Europe.
Yes, please … BREXIT is good for Europe and creates a buffer zone for those bat crazies from across the Atlantic. USA has rescinded on its institutions to be considered a democracy where everyone has a vote … inequality is a virtue in American culture … if you don’t agree, you can get your head blown off.
If the Brexit camp is arguing they will have no problems negotiating preferential trade deals with the US, he is entitled to set them straight.
Please don’t post any contrary opinions … Beahmont is back troll rating. 😉
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It doesn’t follow that what Obama says now about any difficulty of possible trade negotiations with a UK outside the EU has any bearing on what he ‘really’ thinks and or how things will turn out in fact. Of course those negotiations will be facilitated and prioritized as much as possible. After all the UK is one of the five eyes, the radiant constellation of the UK and four English-speaking former colonies around the world of basically European antecedents: white.
But more importantly the UK is not going in any way to vote to leave. Never. The Brits are too lethargic and pragmatic to force such a fundamental social and economic change. They actually like things the way the are. All ills can be blamed on the EU, making any inclination to examine the shortcomings of the UK itself redundant because everyone knows the answer: it’s the EU. This self-serving whining has become a fixed feature of the political landscape to the extent that it’s disappearance would cause a political and social panic in London. What I can’t understand is why the other EU members go to such lengths to placate London. Merkel’s groveling, subservient behavior towards Erdogan might throw some light on that!
I admire your confidence. Even the remain side concede the vote is going to be very tight. It all depends on turnout. In a low turnout election the Brexit side win.
They will just keep holding elections until they get the desired results.
Hmmm. Accountability?
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/i-didn-t-think-ttip-could-get-any-scarier-but-then-i-spoke-to-th
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Interesting ….
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I support Brexit for a safer Europe!