As Steve M. reminds us, Gov. Chris Christie has a 26% approval rating in New Jersey, and that means that he’d actively harm Trump’s chances of winning the Garden State if he were to join his ticket. It’s possible that Trump doesn’t know this, but it’s as close to an iron-clad fact as you can find in politics. The people of New Jersey are totally over Chris Christie and have far less than zero interest in pushing him onto the national stage for the next four to eight years.
Yet, Chistie is still the state’s governor, which is the problem, and which also creates a conflict with the other duties he’s taken on for the real estate bankruptcy expert.
Already, Mr. Christie has begun the task of designing a government on Mr. Trump’s behalf. Tapped to lead Mr. Trump’s transition efforts, Mr. Christie has taken a role that some of his allies liken to that of a White House chief of staff, soliciting views on what a potential Trump administration should look like.
Mr. Christie has taken the transition process firmly in hand, according to people familiar with his activities….
In addition to serving as a kind of head of transition for a prospective Trump administration and as a de facto chief of staff, Christie is also trying to schmooze big money Republican donors. So far, at least, he seems to be having little success. But, regardless, it’s impossible not to imagine that New Jersey is currently operating with an absentee governor.
Now, Trump seems to suffer from every single subtype of narcissistic personality disorder (I’m not kidding), so he simply doesn’t think like a normal person with good mental health. Steve M. speculates that Trump has taken a shine to Christie because people like to have “a funny fat guy” around, but I personally think he was won over to Christie by watching him dice Marco Rubio like a whitefish.
And it didn’t hurt that Christie endorsed Trump despite the predictable reaction from mainstream Republican elites:
What the fuck, Chris Christie?
— Liz Mair (@LizMair) February 26, 2016
In a clinical sense, Christie thereby provided Trump with narcissistic supply.
The narcissistic manager will have two main sources of narcissistic supply: inanimate (status symbols like cars, gadgets or office views); and animate (flattery and attention from colleagues and subordinates). Teammates may find everyday offers of support swiftly turn them into enabling sources of permanent supply, unless they are very careful to maintain proper boundaries. The narcissistic manager’s need to protect such supply networks will prevent objective decision-making. Such a manager will evaluate long-term strategies according to their potential for gaining personal attention.
It was evident at the first Trump-Christie joint press conference in Mar-a-Lago that proper boundaries would not be maintained. It was so obvious, actually, that Christie had to hold another press conference back in his home state to assure people that he had not been taken hostage by Donald Trump.
Some people think Trump says nice things about Vladimir Putin because he admires him as a strong man, or because he’s long been interested in making real estate deals in Moscow and Azerbaijan. And those could be important factors, but probably the most significant cause of Trump’s pro-Putin behavior is that Putin gave him an injection of narcissistic supply.
“He is a bright and talented person without any doubt,” Putin said, adding that Trump is “an outstanding and talented personality.”
And in remarks closely mirroring Trump’s assessment of the campaign, the Russian leader called Trump “the absolute leader of the presidential race,” according to the Russian TASS news agency.
And you know what happens when you say something just a little nice about a narcissist?
“People with narcissistic personality disorder tend to exaggerate their skills and accomplishments as well as their level of intimacy with people they consider to be high-status.”
“I think he [Russian President Vladimir Putin] said some really nice things. He called me a genius. He said Trump’s a genius. Okay. So, you know, that’s nice.” —Donald Trump, interview with Bill O’Reilly, April 28, 2016
Actually, Putin didn’t call him a genius. In fact, Putin went out of his way to clarify that he only called him “bright” and not “brilliant.”
But that doesn’t matter to Trump because the most important thing is that someone with high status praised him, and he makes sure to cultivate that kind of person.
(“Psychologist Heinz Kohut saw those with narcissistic personality disorder as disintegrating mentally when cut off from a regular source of narcissistic supply”)
It’s a variant on the old saw, “Keep your allies close and keep your ego-strokers closer.”
This is the sense in which Chris Christie makes sense as a running mate for Trump. Even if Christie won’t help him win New Jersey or the Electoral College and therefore the election, he feeds something that Trump requires like the rest of us require oxygen.
And, while Indiana Gov. Mike Pence might have had a warm meeting with Trump “Saturday morning at Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, N.J.,” I am just not seeing how Pence can fill that same role.
I’m pretty firmly convinced at this point that the best predictor of what Trump will do is to look at what classic narcissists do. As we’ve seen with Trump’s business practices, he is “fraudulent, deceptive, arrogant, and exploitive” in his dealings and routinely engages in “pathological lying and swindling.”
He perfectly fits the definition of an Elitist Narcissist:
Elitist narcissist: Feels privileged and empowered by virtue of special childhood status and pseudo achievements; entitled façade bears little relation to reality; seeks favored and good life; is upwardly mobile; cultivates special status and advantages by association.
In his dealings with competitors, both business and political, he’s often “callous, brutal, rancorous, aggressive, biting, merciless, vicious, cruel, spiteful; hateful and jealous,” which are all descriptors of a Malignant Narcissist.
He hits all the marks of a Compensatory Narcissist: “Seeks to counteract or cancel out deep feelings of inferiority and lack of self-esteem; offsets deficits by creating illusions of being superior, exceptional, admirable, noteworthy; self-worth results from self-enhancement.” We can see this in how he lies about his Wharton Business degree and constantly assures us that he has one of the highest I.Q. scores.
Sorry losers and haters, but my I.Q. is one of the highest -and you all know it! Please don't feel so stupid or insecure,it's not your fault
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 9, 2013
Even his personal relationships appear narcissistic.
Amorous narcissist: Sexually seductive, enticing, beguiling, tantalizing; glib and clever; disinclines real intimacy; indulges hedonistic desires; bewitches and inveigles others; pathological lying and swindling.
What Trump does, he does to feed his own demons. Trying to discern some greater strategy (he’s a Democratic plant!) is always going to be fruitless.
It’s possible that he’ll listen to some key advisors and make a veep pick that makes a modicum of sense, but I doubt it. Everything about him suggests that his running mate must fill the role that Christie is already filling quite well.
Er, isn’t New Jersey glad to have CC busy elsewhere? Not enacting his malice.
If you think that, you don’t know NJ. Tomorrow he might even be reelected as governor. No kidding.
Not a chance.
will the Dems bother to run a candidate for governor this election?
I’m depressed enough. lol
If you enjoy black humor, check out the comments from NJ voters…http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/01/njs_possible_candidates_for_governor_in_2017.html#0
NJ’s gubernatorial election is in 2017.
Christie cannot run because of term limits.
As Trump has serious issues(Mental) that numerous various country leaders have addressed concerns over. Is it really rational upon the part of the USA to expect the world to accept a Trump Presidency?
“Rational”? I’m not sure how relevant that word is to the current status of our electoral process.
Oh my God, that Trump tweet where he pathetically bragged about his IQ…he is pushing satire to its limits. You simply can’t make up more ridiculous stuff than what come out of his campaign every week.
I’m amused with the term “swindling” being used to describe an aspect of amorous narcissism. I’m also amused by the idea that The Donald could be “…Sexually seductive, enticing, beguiling, tantalizing…” at all. Eye of the beholder, I guess.
Me, I think the “seduction” of his trophy wives/girlfriends was modeled on some of Tony Montana’s techniques:
Isn’t that romantic.
Trump learned well the nonsensical yelling at the media and the treatment of women as property:
Hey, Donald needs to pick up more Hispanic/Latino votes in Florida…Trump/Montana 2016! It’s a cohesive ticket.
I embedded the wrong video for the second placement- here’s a link to it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs8I_mlOG2Q
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before going off in another direction, I think the above makes good sense.
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there’s good convention coverage on Yahoo news from Andrew Romano; this is from the most recent
following up on the discussion from a few days ago here, http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2016/6/29/18258/3379 ,
of the four people mentioned, Ditka, France and Tyson have all publicly declined the invitation; Knight hasn’t been heard from.
Don King would be just the guy. I wonder what Serena thinks of this callout?
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Some convention news that I hadn’t known is about the financing.
Bernie Sanders is now raising campaign funds to pay for his delegates to attend the Dem convention.
Trump has no money and delegates who want to go to Cleveland are on their own. From a California message to a prospective delegate:
Transcript of discussions between senior campaign staff and The Donald:
“Mr. Trump, our campaign still needs a few African-Americans to speak for your candidacy at the Convention.”
“Let’s get Dr. Carson up there. He can speak to The Blacks.”
“Unfortunately, he’s leaked support. The latest polling has Ben less popular with African-Americans than David Duke.”
“Oh, that’s BAD. Not good.”
“Right. We need someone else. Our outreach to Mike Tyson didn’t work out.”
“Well, let me think…..Hmmmmm…..Tough one…..O.J.? No, that’d be a bad look…..OK, Serena Williams spoke with me at the U.S. Open and another time at a celebrity fundraiser. Call her agent, she’ll do it.”
“Right on it, sir.”
“Hope, make sure to leak to the press that we want Serena at the Convention. That’ll help our negotiations. She’ll LOVE it.”
Funding was also a factor for delegates to attend county and state conventions.
Only reason I went to our state convention was that it was downtown. Didnt go to national because I knew I couldnt afford it.
Trump, getting high on his own narcissistic supply!
The other person who could give Trump as much supply would be Sarah Palin. Christie will figuratively kiss Trump’s ass. Palin might literally do it! Of course, she’d want some in return, which reminds me of another saying about people with Trump’s condition–you can’t out-asshole a narcissist.
When Trump crosses the event horizon, the Boo-Trib FP will lose 75% of its content. Could also lead to many brain lesions.
Nah, they’ll just switch to pitching Republican members of Congress in after him. But first things first.
Why single out Trump as special?
Several of our politicians with national name recognition meet the criteria for all subtypes of narcissistic personality disorder.
Trump just seems to trumpet his characteristics in the
fashion of what used to be labeled immature personality disorder.
At least I do not think that Trump also meets all the criteria for another major disorder, such as dis- sociative identity disorder ( multiple personality disorder)the way one politician seems to do.
Why single Trump out?
You’re joking, surely.
nice!
Now that would be interesting, having candidates running for president with multiple personality disorders.
Bob, we live in interesting times.
christie…palin…toss a coin. they’d both make good anvils.
Constant”) rears its ugly head again?
Except, pathetically, Christie’s support falls a percentage point short of even the usually reliable crazies!
Psycho- analyzing candidates is a fun and traditional practice.
Lets take the DSM 5 out and diagnose the candidates!!!
Or, their supporters, since that is quite the topic here lately?
Lobbying Group Holds `White Trash Reception’ On Capitol Hill
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/07/09/513181/white-trash-reception/
The Psychology of Why Hillary Clinton Supporters are Still So Angry at Bernie Sanders (ouch)
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/06/the-psychology-of-why-hillary-clinton-supporters-a.ht
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I am sure our fellow posters can find an analysis of Sanders supporters to contribute.
Or, the elites who don’t like any of us very much and have had enough of this “democracy”! How American Politics Went Insane
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/07/how-american-politics-went-insane/485570/
Will indies exceed 50% after this election is over?
I read the link as to why Hillary supporters are so angry at Sanders (and his supporters). Although I’d never characterized it so explicitly, the article seems pretty much on point.
The cognitive dissonance between who H. Clinton is and what she actually stands for versus what many of her supporters pretend she is is fascinating. There’s plenty of gender identity politics, as if sex organs will somehow determine that we’ll have a more peaceful, mothering executive branch. Maggie Thatcher would argue otherwise from her grave.
Clinton has essentially announced an air war with the Russians in Syria. And yet people are worried that Trump, who’d probably have problems finding Syria on a map, is the warmonger. Her representatives on the platform committee are all taking the neoliberal positions on issues: Minimum wage? A little more but not too high.
It’s actually rather sad. In social settings I hear the fear of Trump from liberals. I can’t see the him having any chance unless Clinton drops dead or is indicted, and both of those things are damned unlikely, and unless she chooses dead weight for her VP, I’d expect her replacement would do even better than her against Trump.
On the other hand we have that 27% who still think that Obama is coming for their guns. On NPR this a.m. I heard a deputy police chief from Florida saying that Obama is divisive because he doesn’t support cops after some of the unfortunate shootings.
I agree with the others who’ve indicated that anyone who seeks being President is narcissist at some level. But some narcissists are worse than others, not necessarily because their performance is louder.
“Will indies exceed 50% after this election is over?”
If the Oracle of Delphi were still around, the answer would be yes.
The pastebin article neglects to mention fear of Trump. I think that was a strong motivating factor for a chunk of people. Not hard to ve angry at those who dont validate actions you did out of fear.
Does the pastebin article neglect to mention fear of Clinton?
It’s not hard to be angry at those who don’t validate actions you did out of fear, such as choosing to stay home instead of voting.
Well the article is about the irrationality of Hill-shills who let us remember, are pissed off after WINNING.
Great article re Clinton supporters and Sanders
Many people are very invested in no we can’t. It excuses a wide swath of behavior. But if you point out that on substance there are a range of positions that are just wrong they get furious and rapidly descend into the personel. Syria where Clinton has been disastrously wrong and were Obama rejected her advice is one example
You can see it in other threads
yes, very interesting. explains the intensity of the vitriol
It happened weekly in the Bush era.
I was working for legal aid representing patients at a state mental health institution when a famous political figure after being accused of adultery wagged his figure and said “I did not have sex with that woman” on national television.
Most people have some sense of shame that would prevent them from lying in such a manner. So at the time the psychologists and psychiatrists with whom I worked trotted out various theories. The person in question was some type of sociopath, or had borderline personality disorder, or some other illness.
After one such session a psychiatrist look at the group and said: “Well maybe he is just a really good liar”.
Of course this is of no interest to real Democrats ™ who have forgotten this entire episode, and for whom the entire episode does not exist in any other form other than Clinton Hate! ™.
I think it is more important that politicians stop lying about what their ACTIONS do and do not accomplish.
Lying about sex when caught is small beans.
Lying about NAFTA and such was not.
Bill Clinton’s sexcapades are still clearly of interest to RealProgressivesTM, just as they were to RealConservativesTM from the 1990s.
So there’s that.
Nice hippy punching!
Nothing in the world is quite as satisfying, to me, as holding up a mirror to someone and letting them see themselves.
Let’s recap, shall we?
You bring up Bill Clinton’s sexcapades.
You then explicitly criticize people who are going to vote for Hitlery Clinton, based on Bill Clinton’s sexcapades. Brilliant logic and cogent reasoning, that.
I hold up a mirror and show you exactly how your comment, directed back at you looks, and…
Look at that big ol’ bully punchin’ on hippies!
Play that victim card. Slam it down. Cheer in triumph.
Teach me that lesson real, real good.
This is what us funny.
I am voting for Clinton. The legion of sanders voters who aren’t exist primarily in your imagination
What is interesting is the intensity of your hate for the 45 percent of the party who voted for sanders.
Deflection, projection, and denial.
You brought up Bill Clinton, real Democrats ™, and Clinton hate.
I mirrored the statement.
That’s reality.
I supported and voted for Sanders.
That’s also reality.
You lunacy isn’t worth the time