What pushed the putsch against Erdogan and what next? | Gulf News |
He weathered anti-government protests that lasted for months in 2013. He escaped the flames that engulfed some of his ministers in a corruption investigation nearly three years ago.
And now Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has survived a military coup – a boast many of his predecessors ousted in previous army takeovers cannot share.
– What prompted the coup? –
In recent years, critics, foreign governments and Turkish citizens have expressed concerns about a steady decline into authoritarianism under Erdogan.
According to Aykan Erdemir, senior fellow at Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD) in Washington, the coup was a result of many factors including the military’s fear of the new system.
He explained that the reasons for the coup included “one of the latest developments (that) has been the bill redesigning the high courts as well as Erdogan’s refusal to be impartial”.
– Why did the coup fail? –
For Sinan Ulgen, director of the Edam think tank and visiting scholar at Carnegie Europe, this was not a coup by the full army as in previous cases, but undertaken by a clique who themselves held the top general hostage.
“This was beyond the chain of command – a relatively small group in the army, who even hijacked the military top brass. It was not an operation designed by the army and it showed. Without the full support of the army, they lacked the assets and capabilities.”
Erdemir said the era of successful coups – as in 1960, 1971 and 1980 – is over with the public largely hostile to the prospect. This time the country put on more of a show of solidarity, with even the three opposition parties in parliament swiftly condemning the attempted putsch.
Political parties do not have “fond memories” of the previous coup d’etats given their bitter experiences under military rulers, said Erdemir.
Ulgen added: “When people realised it did not have backing of the army, it was easier to be against the coup.”
Indeed the sheer odds stacked against the coup spawned conspiracy theories with the hashtag #Darbedegiltiyatro (It’s not a coup it’s theatre) trending on Twitter.
Natalie Martin, politics and international relations lecturer at Nottingham Trent University in Britain, said it appeared “almost meant to fail”, something which created suspicions. “It is entirely possible it’s a false flag coup,” she said.
- ○ Syria: Erdogan’s False Flag Invasion Plans Revealed on YouTube – March 2014
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○ Brotherhood|Salafist Split Interferes In Clinton’s War on Syria – July 2012
[UPDATE1:] Aviation Report: Night of the Coup
It was reported that coup supporting aircraft and helicopters opened fire at:
- Police Special Operations Forces headquarters at Golbasi (bombed by F-16. 47 policemen killed)
- Police Aviation Division headquarters at Golbasi
- Turkish Grand National Assembly building (TBMM)
- Turkish Police general headquarters
- MIT (national intelligence organization) headquarters at Yenimahalle
- TurkSAT (state satellite operator) headquarters at Golbasi
- Presidental Palace at Bestepe
For a few hours, coup F-16s flew over Ankara at very high speeds, often breaking the sound barrier at very low altitudes, releasing flares.
It was reported also that F-16s from both sides entered dogfight over Ankara and Istanbul, however no aircraft has been shot down according to the reports obtained thus far. Interestingly, one of the coup plotters aboard a “rebel” F-16 was the pilot who shot down the Russian Su-24 Fencer that had violated the Turkish airspace back in November 2015.
F-16s from Dalaman, Erzurum and Balikesir took off to intercept coup F-16s that according to the reports were as many as 6.
Merzifon 5MJB, which is one of the closest MJB’s to Ankara was at renovation and closed. All its fighters were temporarily based in Erzurum.
Meanwhile, “Asena 02” left Ankara and climbed to max operational altitude, circling over Kastamonu. Asena 03 took over its role of supporting coup F-16s. A couple of arriving F-16s were directed to Asena 02 to shoot it down, but did not do so probably due to the fact that it was flying over residential areas.
At least one AH-1 Cobra, probably an AH-1W type opened fire with its 20mm gun to protesting crowd and TBMM. This helicopter or another one repotedly opened fire at TurkSAT (State satellite operator) headquarters at Golbasi. This helicopter was reportedly shot down by a loyalist F-16.
A S-70A opened fire at the front gates of MIT campus. Reportedly tried to insert commandos to take over the facility and kidnap Hakan Fidan, head of the service. This helicopter is reportedly shot down (not confirmed).
One or two Air Force AS532 CSAR helicopters raided a wedding ceremony of a high rank general in Istanbul which was attended by many generals. CSAR commandos kidnapped them.
8 cargo aircraft (C-160 and A400M included – one using callsign “Esem 26” was in the air when the takeover unfolded) took off from Kayseri and landed at Malatya 7MJB. They were full of weapons to be used by coup.
Coup F-16s searched for President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s plane, TC-ATA around Istanbul to shoot it down. According to some media reports TuAF loyalist F-16s had the plane in their sights: it’s unclear whether they had a real lock-on, rather that they probably were searching the sky for the Gulfstream IV.
H/T to Arda Mevlutoglu for widely contributing to this post. Additional info from @CivMilAir and @Avischarf
Support from the Salafist countries UAE, Kuwait, KSA and Egypt?
○ Egypt blocks UN Security Council condemnation of Turkey violence: Reuters
○ ‘Recep Tayyip Vanishes’ Read Egypt Headlines On Turkey Coup Bid
Strange order of events at Incirlik AFB … Turkey putting pressure on Obama to deliver the head of Gülen?
○ US, Turkey Differ Over How to Fight IS From Incirlik Air Base | VOA – July 30, 2015 |
The Guardian:
Is anything known about General Erdal Ozturk other than that he’s been detained and accused of being a leader in the coup attempt?
according to my reading of him, Obama loves being threatened by tin horn dictators
Kerry and Obama appeared to be caught so flat-footed on the attempted coup that provisionally I’m concluding that the administration had no advance information. That doesn’t mean that the USG had no involvement; only that the WH didn’t. (Or perhaps even now I’m not cynical enough about Obama. OTOH, he surely wouldn’t have approved a Bay of Pigs type operation that had almost no chance to succeed.
So I’m currently left with:
An Erdogan fake coup to complete the purge of Gulenists from the Judiciary (and the few who might exist in the Army)
A Gulen/CIA/US Air Force backed coup by a gang of stupidos.
–Or– glory hunters responding to:
Good choices, all three, but I’m inclined to door #1.
Ready-to-go with the purge list is either a tell or evidence of how skilled Erdogan and/or his team are exploiting serendipitous opportunities. Sore of like The Patriot Act sitting on a shelf and ready to go should the right moment present itself.
Completely disagree but we have completely different views of Obama. imo this is a play by Erdogan to solidify his sole rule in light of potential Syria agreement; analogous to ISIS ramping up the terrorist attacks. Obama must get a Syria agreement before Jan 2017 for reasons that are obvious on these threads
How so?
2017: whoever wins has a different FP in mind than Obama hence something must be settled before then; current Syria diplomacy, I assume, is in line with Iran, Syrian chem weapons etc – a very complex and pragmatic agreement of well-defined scope. some kind of agreement re: Ukraine will be included, at least that’s what I’ve read and assume to be correct.
Erdogan has been in the middle, playing both sides and more or less slow walking if not sabotaging what Russia and USA [Obama/ Kerry anyway, not the PNC holdovers] are trying to work out. As ISIS is contained, he loses his leverage so he’s making his play now and assuming Obama needs him for Syria agreement. pitiful
Kerry and Lavrov has been doing a lot of jaw-jaw. So, tend to agree with your current FP take on Obama.
Erdogan does seem to be hedging his bets by playing all sides in order not to be left out regardless of who next comes into power. However, with the attempted coup increasing his internal power, expect to see him move some of his pieces in the direction of HRC, Israel, and KSA. All three are transparent enough to recognize their enmity towards Russia, Iran, and Syria.
Personally think that Obama has run out of time. In part because SOS Clinton screwed up so much during her tenure, but he’s responsible of that.
Obama isn’t quite as transparent on “his kind of dictator” as Clinton is. More tepid on many than Clinton’s “love em” or “hate em” positions.
But my question was really about our differing opinions wrt to Obama.
I think you’re wearing too much tinfoil. Erdogan didn’t arrange this coup; it almost took him down and he was saved by a public uprising, which he couldn’t have counted on. No way he would have risked it. Were he to arrange something it would have been a Reichstag fire: very dramatic but not actually a threat to the government.
I don’t think it’s Gulen either as they’d have drummed up some public and institutional support for the coup. Most likely it’s what it seems to be on the face of it: some junior officers without external support tried a coup. That used to be a very routine story.
Yes, Erdogan jumped on it, but I don’t see that indicates he planned it. Of course he kept an enemies list. It’s easy to understand the concept “never waste a good crisis” and it doesn’t apply only to crises you create.
well, I can see you might think that if you haven’t been following Erdogan’s consolidation of power. Here’s what Carne Ross re-tweeted
https://twitter.com/carneross
Someone over at the Orange Place noticed that the “public uprising” had only men demonstrating. interesting since Turkish women are no slouches.
did he risk anything? what risk did he run – he was out of town. presumably if it was a false coup, the actors were his
sorry, if you follow the carne Ross twitter link here’s what you see:
Erdogan’s counter-coup isn’t against the military or even the coup-plotters. It’s against democracy.
188 members of top courts are sought for arrest, 2,745 judges sacked, ~ 3,000 army officers detained in post-coup crackdown in Turkey.
He’s had these purge lists prepared for some time. No way this is credible Intel in such a short time. No chance.
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What do judges have to do with a military coup?
2,745 judges removed? #Islamist #Erdogan using coup attempt as excuse to purge govt & military, & replace w/#Islamists.
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the country cleansing of political opponents accelerates..
etc
I totally get that Erdogan is using this to eliminate what’s left of Turkish democracy, I just don’t think it’s plausible that he set this up. It would have been far too risky. He’s just seizing an opportunity and using it to the fullest.
From my latest post – How Erdogan Nurtured the Violent AKP Mob.
Soldiers – many of whom were clueless teenage conscripts who apparently thought they were part of a training exercise – were rounded up, beaten, stripped and, according to some reports, lynched. [By Gray Wolves supporters of Erdogan’s AKP? – Oui]
The reputation of Turkish soldiers – previously adored, almost sanctified in a fiercely nationalistic young republic – has been turned on its head. We now have a situation where violent mobs are sanctioned as “protecting democracy” by the president, whose prestige and power is now cemented more firmly than ever.
○ Two F-16s harassed Erdogan’s plane while en route to Istanbul, locked their radars on his plane but didn’t fire | Reuters |
well, you could be right, though seems too tentative and poorly thought out to me, hence more like a show-coup; hoping more info is forthcoming.
yes, I think you’re right it was a real failed coup. here’s an assessment from Juan Cole’s website.
http://www.juancole.com/2016/07/turkish-coup-imagined.html
Perhaps. WaPo:
There’s a huge difference between donning a “tinfoil hat” and entertaining plausible hypotheses based on what little information is available.
I only offered three possible hypotheses and didn’t hang my hat on any of them. Nor did I assert that any one of the three would ultimately be shown to be correct.
Your take that the plotters were incompetent junior officers begs a few questions. There was coordination between the army and air force. Generally beyond the means of junior officers. Who are these so-called junior officers aligned with? Erdogan has fingered the Gulen Movement, but outsiders, for good reasons, don’t find that plausible.
I love how they change their Constitution willy-nilly and retroactively. Erdogan and Putin are traitors to their people.
It’s not as if their Constitutions are old and have withstood many challenges over a couple of centuries. Nor as if the US Constitution hasn’t been subverted by other legal means. “The Patriot” Act — cough, cough.
BBC
General Ozturk Not to be confused with General Erdal Ozturk who has also been detained.
It’s becoming clear key US allies involved in the Syrian War are left in the dark. Kerry now in a leading role to solve the war by quiet diplomacy … he and Lavrov don’t want “spoilers” to unso their effort. Gulf States, Turkey, Gulen and a coup by military to get rid of Erdogan all connected to Syrian conflict? Will all KSA supported rebel groups in Syria be targeted? The closure of Incirlik a counter putsch by Erdogan in opposition to Kerry/Lavrov plan for Syria. Erdogan making nice with Israel and Moscow just a few days earlier …
○ Obama urges rule of law in Turkey, U.S. warns of damage to relations
○ Turkish PM has warned there can be no solution to the Syrian conflict or the threat from terrorists while Assad remains
○ Turkey Adopts Double-Edged Approach Toward Syria
very good to hear
“Empty Quiver” – Does US still have full operational control over nuclear weapons at Turkey’s Incirlik air base?
“The USAF maintains all of the B61s all the time and is responsible for their security. In the event of war, we merely help the Turks hand
them on their F-16s and unlock the arming mechanism. One of the worries in this situation is that Erdogan might sense a reluctance by the
U.S. to continue the NATO sharing program, in which case he may choose to snatch ‘his’ B61s and try to figure out how to unlock them.”
[Source: PavewayIV @MoA]
NATO: B61 Nuclear Arms Security Procedure
○ The Kennedy Years: U.S. to Install Locks on Atom Weapons as Extra Safeguard
○ NRDC: U.S. Nuclear Weapons in Europe
interesting discussions here.
I’m not sure what i think. The cui bono? argument points straight at Erdogan; he was clearly ready to jump on the opportunity for a purge. But wasn’t he mostly getting what he wanted already? Seems to me a fake coup is a bigger conspiracy than a real one and won’t be kept secret, and will piss off Turkey’s allies (unless it’s a huge conspiracy that all of NATO was in on).
Can never have too much money or power. All we may ever know is that Erdogan seized the moment (all those lovely Turks that put their bodies on the line for a government they loathe) and thus, he gets to write the history. At least in the near term.
[Links and notes added are mine – Oui]
○ Turkey’s Conundrum: Are the Country’s Versions of Secularism and Political Islam Compatible? (2008)
○ Turkey’s Revival of a Dirty `Deep State’ | Consortium News |
The parallels continue …
○ Erdogan: A New Hitler Stands Up by Oui on Nov. 28th 2015
See UPDATE in diary!
○ Young Turks and the Armenian Genocide
○ Turkey brings a gentle version of the Ottoman empire back to the Balkans | The Guardian – April 2013 |
○ Sultan Erdogan of the Emirate of Turkey
○ Erdogan’s dreams of empire are perilous for Turkey
What the hell is Joe Biden talking about? Equal opportunity for minorities in the Unite States as laid down in the American Dream? Or is it just all a fabrication, an Arabian fata morgana …
No, Joe is pivoting in Asia and after the chaos in the Middle East, the US has set its eyes on the Asian Pacific. Good luck Asia.
“Without basic human security, girls and boys across the region will never have the chance to achieve their full potential.”
http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/22/followers-of-a-mysterious-turkish-islamic-cleric-have-donated-heav
ily-to-hillarys-campaign-and-family-charity/
http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/13/new-ties-emerge-between-clinton-and-mysterious-islamic-cleric/
http://heatst.com/politics/how-the-clintons-and-the-rest-of-washington-are-getting-rich-from-the-tur
key-coup/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/11/20/lawmakers-got-suspect-turkish-campaign-cash/759
82732/
It seems, from the above links, that there’s a money path that runs through the Clinton Foundation, but Gulen apparently is bi-partisan, for some reason liking Ayotte and Bush too.
Don’t know if these links were created to intentionally embarrass Clinton. Gulen is apparently a CIA front. So did Erdogan blame them because he didn’t like the way that the US government has been pushing him?
As another poster said, “cui bono” points to Erdogan conducting a false coup to solidify power. I just don’t see him bolting from the US into, say, Russia’s arms or into actual political independence from the US/NATO.
So far it’s just another entertainment stream if you don’t want to watch the death of reason in Cleveland.
Graham E Fuller — The Gulen Movement Is Not a Cult — It’s One of the Most Encouraging Faces of Islam Today. A former spook speaks. Some mop of work would seem to be in order regardless if they were instrumental of the coup or not since Erdogan has fingered them and is busy rooting them out of his government.
(A note (possibly a side note) on Fuller. His daughter was for a number of years married to the uncle of the two men identified as having perpetrated the Boston bombing.) Such tangled webs.)
7/21/16- There are two stories in The Duran that suggest that the coup was known beforehand by Russian intelligence and that they tipped off Erdogan. The original source of the information was the Iranian news service. There are suggestions that the possibility of creating a Kurdish state in northern Syria is something that Erdogan and the US disagree on.
This would go a long way to explaining all the emphasis regarding Gulen.
I’m not sure how accurate it is, but if in fact the US was behind the coup that should pretty much end the Syrian conflict. The rebels can’t continue the war if Erdogan shuts down his border and cuts off aid to the anti-Assad forces.
As fallout, you would expect an end to Turkey’s membership in NATO and the loss of US bases there.
It would also put a damper on US meddling in Crimea and the various states on the east end of the Black Sea. That would suggest a serious spanner in the US’s rollback strategy.
The Turkish Stream (Russian gas to Southern Europe through Turkey) might just get put back on the front burner, and the West’s plans for a pipeline through Syria would be stopped abruptly. That’s what the US would get for backstabbing its ally.
This would, in turn, screw up the US plans for cutting off Russian natural gas to Europe. It would end Ukraine’s usefulness as a strategic wedge into Russia.
Also, since Gulen et al is a CIA construction and by money channels is connected to the Clinton Foundation this would indicate bad news for the neoliberals. It might even create more political problems for Clinton. Not sure how Trump would exploit this, but his public questioning of NATO’s continued existence might be a hint.
I have no idea how true this is, just reporting the rumors, but the vast hole in Western coverage is suggestive. The absence of information in the West may be a tipoff. A new narrative must be written.