I admire the reporting that Robert Costa and Phillip Rucker are doing for the Washington Post but their latest piece strikes me as completely delusional. The subject is worthy. They enlist Washington insiders to paint a picture of how Speaker Paul Ryan and President Hillary Clinton might work together (or not) next year. To be blunt, I can’t see Paul Ryan actually being the Speaker of the House next year. And if he is, I can’t see him lasting for very long.
When the House Republicans convened to elect Ryan as their leader and candidate for Speaker of the House, the vote was 200-43, which might sound like an overwhelming endorsement. But it was actually 18 votes shy of a majority of the 435 members of the full House. In the end, when the real vote happened on the House floor, only nine Republicans voted against him and he was elevated to the Speakership with 236 votes. In other words, his opponents relented in the end even though they could have denied him a majority if they had been willing to go to the wall.
The premise here is obviously that the Republicans will retain their majority in the House after next month’s elections, but everyone agrees that the GOP will lose seats. Charlie Cook, for example, has the Democrats definitely netting five seats with another 26 Republican seats in the vulnerable areas of either “toss-up” or “lean Republican.” He only identifies three vulnerable Democratic seats, only one of which (FL-02) is likely to fall. A large percentage of the vulnerable Republican seats are in states like New York and California where the representatives may be quite conservative but aren’t enemies of Paul Ryan. In other words, Ryan faces a world where he has less support within his caucus than he had when he first asked for their endorsement as Speaker.
Add to this, though, that Donald Trump and his team and his supporters are openly warring with Ryan and castigating him as “globalist” who wants open borders, free trade, and immigration reform. Trump’s campaign adviser Steve Bannon went so far as to instruct his staff at Breitbart to destroy Paul Ryan, and that was before Ryan abandoned his boss’s presidential campaign less than thirty days before the election.
The number of Republicans in the House who are angry about Ryan’s decision to ditch Trump is surely larger than the number that initially declined to support his speakership. And the number of them who are going to be terrified of a primary challenge if they support Ryan the next time around is going to be close to one hundred percent.
One final consideration is that House leaders do not always survive presiding over an election in which their party suffers significant losses. In this case, Ryan has a more plausible excuse than Newt Gingrich had after the disappointing 1998 midterms, but he’s not completely immune from criticism that his strategy made some contribution to the results.
Add it all up, and I see very little chance that Ryan would win an election within his own caucus. Too many of them would have reasons to either resent him or to fear the repercussions of voting for him.
There’s also some reason to believe that Ryan wouldn’t want the job. To begin with, he made some remarks late last month that indicated that he’s very frustrated.
“I’m tired of divided government. It doesn’t work very well,” Ryan said. “We’re just at loggerheads. We’ve gotten some good things done. But the big things — poverty, the debt crisis, the economy, health care — these things are stuck in divided government, and that’s why we think a unified Republican government’s the way to go.”
It’s true that he was at least partially making a case for Trump there (an argument he says he will no longer make), but there is also his presidential ambitions to consider. Assuming they are not already as dead as a doornail, spending two or four years working in a bipartisan manner with President Clinton, even if limited to keeping the government open and functioning, would surely polish them off. And don’t forget that Ryan really did not want the job of Speaker in the first place.
If the Republicans do hang on to a narrower majority in the House and Paul Ryan seeks and gains the Speaker’s gavel again in the next Congress, he’ll immediately discover that he simply cannot pass spending bills without resorting to mostly Democratic votes, which will lead rather quickly to the same situation that Boehner found himself in where he was constantly under threat of being deposed. Ryan surely knows all this.
As a result, I doubt Ryan would seek the speakership, doubt that he’d get it if he did seek it, and doubt that he’d keep it if he did get it.
A better result for the GOP would be to lose control of both houses of Congress so that they will not have any responsibility for governing and can go back to being a minority oppositional party. But, if they are so unlucky to win a majority in the House, they’ll discover (whoever they choose for Speaker) that the real majority and the real power isn’t formed by R’s and D’s but by the majority that is actually willing to pass appropriations and keep the government’s doors open. And that majority simply won’t be made up of wholly Republicans in the next Congress or for the foreseeable future. Regardless of what the voters decide, the GOP is incapable of being a governing party.
Boo, you know that’s not true. Boehner and Ryan have needed D votes to do that for six years but have never given the D’s any power. I don’t see how a narrower majority changes that calculation, unless it’s so narrow Pelosi can become speaker with a few votes from retiring R’s.
Yeah, I don’t see how Clinton’s election will pour oil on the troubled waters in the house, assuming R’s have the majority. If anything, they’ll be even crazier, given how Trump has whipped their base into a frothing frenzy. Any R that attempts to cross the line and vote with dems would probably be tarred and feathered.
And remember GOP is almost surely going to go with anti HRC in an attempt to restore unity adding yet another disincentive to cooperation.
I for one am sick of the democrats having to do the grunt work for absolutely nothing.
Any chance a dozen or so reps from soon to be blue locally PA, VA and CO would cross over and vote for Pelosi?
None. Remember, GOP Reps in those states come from generally very gerrymandered districts. They’re beholden to the districts, nothing else. It would be a death knell to any of them who crossed the line in such a rebellious manner.
I’m glad to see this analysis, because to many on the left are assuming the House will flip, ignoring the how unlikely that is.
It’s nice to dream, but geeze.
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There are districts in which Latino-Americans and African-Americans allow a Republican a comfortable base, or the lack of activity of these two demographics does. Every Republican has implicitly endorsed Trump in this campaign. PVI alone does not tell the story of what will happen in the House.
And there is also the possibility that less extreme Republican’s white base might be demoralized and stay home as well.
It is possible for Democrats to take back the House. A lot depends on how far Clinton can run up the national sentiment margin before election day. And that presupposes that a lot of voters with determine whether even to vote closer to, on election day, or in the voting booth. It could be that crazy for some voters.
Would love it to happen.
Also, you need to take into account the Trump voters who are very angry with the GOP establishment. There may be, in fact, enough of them that will vote ONLY for Trump and ignore the down-ballot races.
This movie keeps getting better and better.
There is an easy way for both the Trump campaign and Paul Ryan to get their most wished for result. Have their supporters in Ryan’s district not vote for Ryan. If they vote for the Democratic challenger, that leverages 2 votes for every Ryan vote and accelerates and their desired result.
Intensified Democratic get-out-the-vote could do the same thing.
Could the Republicans keep their majority and elect someone from their burn-the-house-down wing that does not care about passing spending bills?
HRC should expect the GOP to continue and this should give her an advantage Obama did not have. She also has Obama who is not going to disappear. It’s going to be different this time.
There’s a significant number of Republican representatives who do not want the house burned down (often because they own substantial portions) and won’t vote for anybody from the Freedom Caucus. If the Freedom Caucus can block a sane Republican and the Republicans have a majority it may not be possible to elect a speaker, which would be a very messy situation.
Which raises the question: who will replace Ryan and how will they approach what promises to be a very difficult–if not impossible–role?
Well, Ryan didn’t have the experience and support that Boehner used to have, so he is in a precarious position. But he seems relieved to go asap. And who could blame him? I would be, “not my circus, not my monkeys” and beat a hasty retreat.
What happens when Hillary does get elected and the real ugliness starts, because we all know that impeachment proceedings will start the moment she puts her hand on the Bible to be sworn in. All the Republican hurt feelings and resentment will reach a fury we have never yet seen.
Ryan will find a place and be fine. But if the Democrats think we’ve seen it all with Trump, there is going to be a shitstorm coming that will make Trump look like a toddler throwing a tantrum.
“we all know that impeachment proceedings will start the moment she puts her hand on the Bible to be sworn in.” Yes, but would that happen if there is a Democratic majority or even split with Kaine as the tie-breaker? Oh, who am I kidding? That wouldn’t stop this current crop of GOP Congresscritters!
The GOP went through the whole impeachment scam even though they knew they’d never get a conviction in the Senate. That should tell you something.
I’m don’t think we can make predictions about the post-Trump world. If Republicans lose the House and the Senate, the temptation to just throw stones will be enormous. But if they control the House, it’s possible Ryan, McConnell and other party leaders will reassess the total-obstruction strategy, realizing it gave rise to the Trump monster and that, if continued, the party will sooner or later (most likely sooner) split (if it hasn’t split already by then).
It’s always difficult to predict seismic shifts and even harder to predict the timing. But at some point even Republicans have to realize the status quo ain’t workin’.
To have impeccable timing. Like or hate him, he got out while the getting was good. I am sure he laughs in his merlot every night at this mess and is glad he isn’t in charge.