I opened up the New York Times and was something in between amused and ashamed to see the headlines. I couldn’t help but laugh at our president’s humiliation and naked incompetence, but at the same time, this is my country that is face-planting on the international stage.
Of course, I also feel a sense of trepidatious relief knowing that many people who have been senselessly targeted as terrorist threats are getting at least a temporary reprieve. I haven’t read the judge’s entire opinion yet, so I’m flying by the seat of my pants here, but it seems that this wouldn’t have happened if the administration had been halfway convincing in arguing that racism and religious bigotry aren’t the primary motivations behind the Muslim ban.
The president obviously has broad powers to keep the country safe, and were there some actual reason to make emergency changes in our immigration policies, I doubt that judges would keep curtailing and overruling Trump’s executive order. But the administration hasn’t hidden from the fact that this is a “ban” of Muslims that isn’t intended to inconvenience Christians or members of other religious faiths.
There are enough comments from Trump and other members of his staff to make it quite clear that this is part of a wider policy aimed at keeping Muslims out (in the immediate, narrow sense) and slowing the browning of America (in the long-term, wider sense). This was the rationale acting Attorney General Sally Yates used when she refused to enforce the executive order.
My role is different from that of the Office of Legal Counsel (OLC), which, through administrations of both parties, has reviewed Executive Orders for form and legality before they are issued. OLC’s review is limited to the narrow question of whether, in OLC’s view, a proposed Executive Order is lawful on its face and properly drafted. Its review does not take account of statements made by an administration or it surrogates close in time to the issuance of an Executive Order that may bear on the order’s purpose. And importantly, it does not address whether any policy choice embodied in an Executive Order is wise or just.
Similarly, in litigation, DOJ Civil Division lawyers are charged with advancing reasonable legal arguments that can be made supporting an Executive Order. But my role as leader of this institution is different and broader. My responsibility is to ensure that the position of the Department of Justice is not only legally defensible, but is informed by our best view of what the law is after consideration of all the facts.
Some examples of “statements made by the administration or its surrogates close in time to the issuance of an Executive Order” were contained in interviews given by Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani. Just as the executive order was being announced, Trump sat down with David Brody of CBN News and said explicitly that his intention was to give Christians priority in immigration:
DAVID BRODY: “Persecuted Christians, we’ve talked about this, the refugees overseas. The refugee program, or the refugee changes you’re looking to make. As it relates to persecuted Christians, do you see them as kind of a priority here?”
PRESIDENT TRUMP: “Yes.”
DAVID BRODY: “You do?”
PRESIDENT TRUMP: “They’ve been horribly treated. Do you know if you were a Christian in Syria it was impossible, at least very tough to get into the United States? If you were a Muslim you could come in, but if you were a Christian, it was almost impossible and the reason that was so unfair, everybody was persecuted in all fairness, but they were chopping off the heads of everybody but more so the Christians. And I thought it was very, very unfair. So we are going to help them.”
Sally Yates was also responding to an appearance Rudy Giuliani made on Fox News where he made the following remarks:
“Okay. I’ll tell you the whole history of it. So when [Trump] first announced it he said, “Muslim ban.” He called me up and said, “Put a commission together, show me the right way to do it legally.” I put a commission together with Judge Mukasey, with Congressman McCaul, Pete King, a whole group of other very expert lawyers on this. And what we did was we focused on, instead of religion, danger. The areas of the world that create danger for us. Which is a factual basis. Not a religious basis. Perfectly legal, perfectly sensible, and that’s what the ban is based on. It’s not based on religion. It’s based on places where there are substantial evidence that people are sending terrorists into our country.
That’s a naked admission that the “danger” is a cover for the actual discriminatory intent of the order. In truth, the order itself contains language that states that once the suspended refugee program is resumed, it will “prioritize refugee claims made by individuals on the basis of religious-based persecution, provided that the religion of the individual is a minority religion in the individual’s country of nationality.” The overall picture is transparent enough that it has undercut the attempt to carve out a legal justification, and that is what Sally Yates and many federal judges have responded to in their findings that the order is unconstitutional.
In the latest example, the judge identifies both problems:
The federal government was “arguing that we have to protect the U.S. from individuals from these countries, and there’s no support for that,” said the judge, James Robart of Federal District Court for the Western District of Washington, an appointee of President George W. Bush, in a decision delivered from the bench…
Judge Robart temporarily barred the administration from enforcing two parts of Mr. Trump’s order: its 90-day suspension of entry into the United States of people from the seven countries — Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen — and its limits on accepting refugees, including “any action that prioritizes the refugee claims of certain religious minorities.”
In other words, there’s no support for Giuliani’s “danger” and there’s therefore no structure beneath the rationale for making a “law respecting an establishment of religion.” While the First Amendment only specifically precludes Congress from passing laws that preference one religion over another, in practice the prohibition applies to the Executive Branch and their policies and orders as well.
Giuliani was correct to argue that this could be overcome in a true national security crisis, but that might only work if the danger is real and can’t be addressed in a narrower way. To prevail in court, the administration will probably have to demonstrate that there is an imminent threat of attack from Muslims (and only Muslims) that originates from citizens of the countries listed in the Executive Order (and only those countries), and that the only way to stop this ticking time bomb is simply to deny entry to all Muslims from just those countries.
It will be more difficult to make those arguments because everyone can see they are contrived and dishonest attempts to provide legal cover for a policy that has nothing to do with any known plot.
Ironically, Trump is losing here because he was too honest and didn’t lie well enough.
It may be the first time in his life that he’s had that experience.
What the heck is Rudy’s agenda? He’s leaking damaging (to the R’s) inside info on national TV. Why isn’t the great pumpkin down on him like a ton of bricks?
Love the twitter word usage: “the opinion of this so-called judge”!
His agenda is, as always, to feed his own ego by preening before the right-wing crazies. Their approbation is his oxygen. It’s the reason he stood before a tony New York dinner crowd and made jokes about “the Mexicans” in the kitchen (to stunned silence).
His whole life, he’s wanted those cheering crowds, and Trump’s caravan delivered them once he joined up. He just can’t keep his mouth shut in these instances; it just feels too good to get those “attaboys” from the Alt-Right.
On Sept. 19, 2007 in London, Rudolph Giuliani received the “Medal of Freedom” award from former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. The “Iron Lady,” who helped Ronald Reagan bring down the U.S.S.R.’s “Evil Empire,” will honor the ex-mayor after he delivers a speech to the Atlantic Bridge, a conservative British-American think tank. The award is a coup for Giuliani as he vies for the Republican nomination for the White House and comes at the expense of GOP rivals John McCain, Mitt Romney and Fred Thompson. But Atlantic Bridge U.S. executive director Scott Syfert insisted the selection of Giuliani had nothing to do with politics.
[Source: The Margareth Thatcher Foundation – Atlantic Bridge]
The chaos, the “big lies” are deliberate, not signs of bumbling. It’s all Bannon’s handiwork.
One of the things I am finding interesting is that public support for unconstitutionally restricting the civil and traveling rights of Muslims has been going down in the wake of the Administration’s clownishly hateful statements and EO implementation. That’s a relief; many pre-election polls showed majorities of Americans in support of violating the Constitution in this area. These public polling changes are far from getting us to safe harbor, but they’re important.
It reminds me of the change in public opinion among Californians in the wake of the passage of the unconstitutional Proposition 187. The California GOP won that campaign on Election Day in 1994, but implementation of the Proposition was blocked by the Courts and their Party experienced a catastrophic and escalating loss of support in subsequent elections. These days, Republicans in California are utterly uncompetitive in Statewide elections and the Democrats have supermajorities in the State Legislature.
One of the next Executive Order the Trump Administration is planning to put across is fairly similar to the concepts of Prop 187.
That is interesting (and heartening).
If only we weren’t in such a goddamned fact-challenged, truth-challenged environment…I mean, people shouldn’t need the courts to explain basic civics to them.
If every time someone does something egregious, illegal or untoward, people are sent on television to contrive whatever outlandish, ridiculous defense of what was done…and the worst outlets amplify this nonsense (while ignoring everything else) while even the best merely “present both sides” as if it’s some kind of reasonable high school debate (with the positions carefully chosen by teachers for maximum chin-stroking and balance) rather than mooring themselves to reality and exposing one “side” as completely beyond the pale (which they can’t do because it’s “bias” or — now — “fake”)…if that’s the way the system is working, and nobody has any scruples about it (nobody says, yes, this is buttering my bread, but it’s wrong)…then this is the result. The public is stranded in a no-man’s-land of nonsense and the “rule of law” disappears from view until a “so-called judge” locates it again.
This scene came to mind … don’t know why.
All powerful boogeyman. Yes Trump won the presidency and yes Bannon played a part in that; however, Bannon’s mistakes in rolling out these executive orders are hurting Trump’s brand of being a “businessman who knows how to get things done.”
To be blunt, if Priebus had been the one overseeing/writing them instead of Bannon, Trump’s support outside of his core base (which is smaller than the precentage of people who voted for him) wouldn’t be tanking. Why? Because they would have been thoroughly vetted and the roll outs wouldn’t have been disasters. That is the problem Trump is facing. More than his actual policies being unpopular, his core brand is taking a beating because the people he is letting run the show (Bannon) don’t know how the government works so they are making mistake after mistake
Think of the two things that have gone fairly well – the reinstating of the global gag rule and the roll out of the his supreme count pick. Those were overseen by the “establishment” not Bannon.
Go look at the pics of the donald making his phone Australia phone call. What is all that paper on his desk? Doesn’t the leader of the free world have a secretary? Seems like Bannon has decided no one else will get in the Oval Office.
I recall summaries of analyses of the Executive Order right after it was issued. These summaries were gathered by reporters working for conservative and liberal journals, and there seemed to be a general consensus that the EO would be found constitutional.
“But what about all the statements the President and those working with the Administration made where they proudly asserted that religious animus motivated their construction of the Order?”, I thought. It seemed like we were heading to “the law is an ass” conclusion. I am quite relieved to see that, so far, logic and evidence and a finer morality have been upheld by the Federal courts.
I have wondered what the lawyers who are tasked to defend the EO must think each time the President and his surrogates go out there and say “Sure, call it a ban if you want” or “The President asked us to come up with a legal Muslim ban” or “Christians need special status over Muslims”. Most attorneys would have better leverage to exhibit control of their clients’ public behavior, eh?
What is so frightening about all of this is just how many “points” Trump & co. will win if there is a terrorist strike in the US. Won’t matter if the perpetrators are not refugees or not from any of the banned nations, they will be “linked” to them in some way that will course through the alt-right.
Apologies for my cynicism, but I do think the administration is capable of accusing innocent people of plotting terrorism for no other reason than justifying their hardline policies. They’ve already turned one five-year old failed plot into a massacre.
Well, our work is to prevent Trump from building his public support in the wake of a significant terrorist attack by someone claiming sanction by and solidarity with Islam.
I’m beginning to do that now. One of the ways I’m doing that is by reminding people that W. Bush misused his public support in the wake of 9/11, killed thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of Arabs and Persians, and flushed billions of dollars down the toilet while reducing America’s standing and influence in the world. We were made less safe by what Bush did, and Trump’s temperament, lack of experience and penchant for lying makes him much less trustworthy than Bush.
Those are good points. Strangely enough (and sadly to say), this is where entertainment can help normalize the public. We need less 24 and more Aziz Ansari and Asif Mandvi. I know that both are Indian (and likely atheists), but they do come from Muslim backgrounds. That process of normalization can be slow, but sometimes it helps to step back and realize how far we’ve come as a species (current step backwards aside).
There, FTFY.
Don’t inflate the numbers too much or Trump will have to beat them. “Bush only flushed trillions of dollars down the toilet. Sad. We’re gonna flush quadrillions.”
Thanks; that’s a good correction.
Better.
Here is where all of this is leading…towards amending (or totally breaching) the Constitution.
Questions to which I have no answers:
Can they do it?
Have they sufficient votes?
Will what panikwerks is panicking about above…a terrorist attack…pull the final switch for such a possibility?
How easy would it be to pass off a terrorist attack from allies of Trump as an ISIS act?
Have they got a Sirhan Sirhan of their very own already targeted? (“I don’t remember what happened…I’m not sure. Maybe the Rosicrucians brainwashed me…” etc., etc. etc….)
Which “they” and for which target?
HMMMmmm…
This is going to be quick and nasty no matter what the result.
Watch.
AG
Arthur expresses a curious lack of moral clarity about where he stand on a potential escalations by the Trump Administration to breach our Constitution.
One thing’s for sure: the Ron Paul acolyte has made it very clear he will not be putting his body on the line if Trump tries to use the police state to implement violations of civil and voting rights. No, Arthur will be at his keyboard, tut-tutting those Americans who choose to fight. Jazz man’s soft as milk, physically and morally; he’ll prioritize the preservation of his white privilege and relationships with his friends and family who are on the Trump Train over solidarity with other Americans and preservation of the Constitution.
Moral clarity?
This from a DNC supporter?
Your definition of “moral clarity” is whoever seems to agree with you.
I have no safety net, centerfield. I live as inexpensively as possible in the Bronx and continue my own (perfectly morally clear, to my own eyes) life trying to educate Americans about the history of jazz and latin musics…a totally integrated history.
I am in Sitka, AK right now, finishing up a week of doing just that, at a break-even profit for myself.
Pro bono, essentially.
For the greater good.
Trump and his handlers are busily trying to destroy that culture and history one way, the Obama/Clinton forces another.
I oppose both of them with every breath.
You?
AG
Arthur’s failure to gain a safety net for yourself does not mean he should advocate for the undermining of the safety net for others. His stated interest in ending unemployment insurance and other safety net programs is a position opposed by almost everyone in this community. In its radical conservatism, this view of his is only surpassed by his opposition to civil rights and voting rights laws and enforcements.
And because of his white privilege Arthur will be safe from this treatment moving forward:
Arthur could engage in pro bono work to help us stop this. Instead, he has continued to spend time here kvetching about the protesters and railing against Clinton and Democrats. That doesn’t meet the urgency of the moment. He either wants to join us in stopping Trump and the Republicans or he doesn’t. The best evidence available here shows that he wants to help Trump, despite his protests to the contrary.
I don’t think AG wants to help Trump, I think he wants to convince himself that he’s above it all. As if you can absolve yourself of responsibility by taking a seat in the grandstand of philosophical detachment.
‘Grandstand of philosophical detachment’. I like that, it’s a nice turn of phrase.
To go off track a little….that phrase describes much of libertarianism, and would explain why it’s mainly a philosophy of immature white boys with soft hands. And not a few republicans.
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It’s from “The Iceman Cometh.” Does this sound like anyone you know?
Nice!
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Goodness gracious, Stephen, the quote you share here from O’Neill’s character really does nail down this pernicious ethos.
Pro bono
For the public good.
Been that way all my life.
You?
AG
So true. He’s a horse’s ass.
Arthur’s nihilism and cynicism are so patently obvious, I’ve stopped reading his comments. They’re boring and predictable.
Strange … I rarely disagree with the content of his posts.
Lay off the acid.
I can’t scroll past them fast enough. Total POS.
I just find his smugness insufferable. He’s clearly never entertained an idea that didn’t gurgle up from within his own beautiful mind.
Does anyone know what in the hell Trump is talking about here? Is there any valid argument that it’s harder to immigrate for Syrian Christian than a Muslim?
Someone told him that, at some point (one of the crazies he talks to).
It’s clearly established that Trump filters what he hears, not based on trustworthiness, expertise, knowledge or merit, but on whether it matches up with what he already “knows” (or what will help make the sale — it reminds me of the sleaziest floor-salesmen I’ve seen).
Sounds like utter bullshit to me, i.e., Trump spouting counter-factual nonsense with his standard disregard for whether what he’s saying has even any slightest element of truth to it.
But if I’m right about that, media SHOULD have fact-checked and refuted it by now, if doing their job. Haven’t seen that.
The unmitigated gall:
“WikiLeaks is a publisher that provides a safe means for whistleblowers to make significant disclosures to the public about government or private enterprise. If we have information on any significant power faction or candidate in a globally significant election campaign, we publish it.”
–Julian Assange from the Introduction
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
Assange and WikiLeaks have protected and are assisting white Christian supremacist and nationalist leaders and movements quite consistently. He’s working on getting Marine Le Pen elected in France right now. Assange appears aware that he has to watch how hard he can push this line so he’s released info on Le Pen, but the information is less damaging than the information he’d already been leaking about Le Pen’s opponents, and he doesn’t appear to be working as hard to spin the revelations to create maximum damage to her campaign. All this has helped Le Pen take the lead over all other candidates in the polls.
This guy, his organization, and his associates do not want a pluralistic society and a vibrant, strong, multicultural working class. If they did, they wouldn’t have helped the openly fascistic, racist campaign of Trump by leaving it alone (at best) or conspiring with it (at worst) while propagandizing the American public with the stated intent to damage the campaigns of Clinton and Democrats.