I’m not going to be dishonest and tell you that I have faith that the congressional Intelligence committees, which are both controlled by the Republicans, are going to do an honest investigation of Trump’s ties to the Russians. At the same time, though, it’s going to be tricky for them to handle if they unearth troubling information.
There are a few advantages to doing this in the Intelligence committees rather than a special select investigatory body or through a special prosecutor. On the plus side, the Intelligence committee members and their staffs already have the clearances they need and some basic familiarity with the issues and sensitivities involved. The committees are partisan, but less so than any other committees. They can get started quicker and have a better chance of working with some common purpose than we’d likely see with the alternative scenarios.
On the minus side, most Intelligence hearings are closed to the public, and it’s easier to arrange things so the Democrats feel constrained by the rules of classification against speaking about what they learn. It should be easier to limit the scope of the investigation without inviting outrage.
The Democrats’ main leverage is that it won’t be worth much if the committees issue a final report that they don’t support. The Republicans will try, if possible, to run things in a way that doesn’t immediately alienate the Democratic members and their staff.
There are some signs that it won’t be possible to keep things tightly under wraps.
Moderate Republican Susan Collins, who sits on the Intelligence panel, told Maine Public Wednesday that she wants Flynn to testify. With an 8-7 split between Republicans and Democrats, her vote could be pivotal. She even sounded open to the possibility of looking at Trump’s tax returns as part of the probe…
…”We will get to the bottom of this,” Collins told Maine Public. “I will encourage that there’ll be some public hearings as well as the closed hearings that we’re doing now, and that we issue a report.”
“We’re not,” she added, ”going to exclude anyone from our review.”
The Bloomberg article I’m referencing here mentions that Sens. Tom Cotton and Marco Rubio are taking a tough line on Russia, but I don’t see them as likely problems for the administration. They may want to use the hearings to influence policy, but they won’t want to take the administration down entirely. I believe Susan Collins is a potential headache for them because she’s probably half-considering bolting the GOP as it stands, and she carries a swing-vote that can determine whether the Democrats are empowered or neutered. If the GOP leans too hard on her, she could fall right in Chuck Schumer’s lap.
These are some of the reasons why I think the Senate investigation is more dangerous than the House one.
Overall, this is a shitty way to investigate these issues and I fully expect a whitewash. If there is any hope, it’s that the lead Democrat on the Senate panel, Mark Warner of Virginia, says that this investigation will be the most important thing he’s ever done in the Senate. If he’s that motivated, he’ll be a more powerful force than people might expect. He’s basically the Intelligence Community’s senator, as most of them live in his state, and he’ll be hard to keep in the dark.
The fact that he’s been more cooperative with Trump, on confirmations for example, than most Democrats will give him added credibility and make his complaints resonate a little better.
I guess the GOP’s biggest problem is that the Intelligence Community is rife with people who do not like Trump and do not trust his staff. They’re going to make it very hard to stifle this investigation.
So, the setup here is far from ideal and basically designed to coverup more than it reveals. But things could get interesting nonetheless.
Just a little break to point out Paul Ryan’s Obamcare alternative. Pardon me while I puke.
Just in case anyone is interested in policy instead of personalities and Manchurian candidate fantasies.
Supposedly they held it back because the CBO score is disastrous. It raises the deficit in spite of throwing many millions off insurance. Even for Republicans, that’s quite an accomplishment in bad policy.
The 2015 ACA repeal Bill that President Obama vetoed finally got a non-budgetary CBO analysis, thanks to Senator Schumer and other Congressional Democrats pushing for it. That analysis shows that the real life impacts of that Bill would be even more fantastically awful than we could have imagined.
The analysis shows that the broad private health insurance marketplace would be so damaged by the Bill that not only would almost all of the approximately 20 million ACA beneficiaries lose their insurance, about 10 million more Americans who did not get health insurance directly from ACA benefits would lose their affordable insurance as well. 18 million would lose their coverage in the first year, and the number of lucky duckies would soon grow to 32 million Americans.
One of my very biggest laughs about the openly corrupt incompetence of the Republican Congressional leadership is the new House rule which increases the obligations of the CBO to run strict budget analyses of all proposed Bills, but specifically excludes the ACA replacement Bill from any budget analysis.
It’s like they’ve installed big neon signs over the front door of the Speaker’s office flashing “WE’RE TOTAL FRAUDS”.
The only thing that will provide credibility for this investigation is facts, not complaints. And classification is keeping those facts from the American people. I don’t expect that to change unless toward the end of the investigation some member of Congress sacrifices their career by reading the facts into the Congressional Record.
My own sense is that the facts are ambiguous and require a politicized reading one way or the other to come to a conclusion. That is not good material for impeachment from a minority position. And does not show the prospect of the majority party sacrificing their President.
My opinion of Susan Collins (and John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and Mark Warner as well) is that they are all talk. When it comes to the crucial vote, they fall into line with their caucus.
‘…impeachment from a minority position.’ Has any Democrat been even suggesting the possibility? The Democratic strategy: we’ll just sit on our hands basically watching Donald Trump put the country through the paper shredder, only later to profit by conjuring a sparkling Democratic victory in 2018, How good will that go? Today the die will be cast in Atlanta.
Well, some of this is knowable, as opposed to open to interpretation.
It is possible to look at unexamined collected intelligence and figure out if certain people traveled to certain places and perhaps even met with certain people. Some conversations are saved at NSA but no one knows to look at them yet. Same for other electronic communications. There are financial investigations that, though complex, can unravel shell corporations or discern true ownership. There are more straightforward banking transactions to examine. There are people speaking under oath, some of whom may be looking to avoid charges, or to get out of prior perjurious testimony.
There is the server in Trump Tower to figure out.
There are actual hackers to identify and perhaps to arrest.
On the margins, much of it can be interpreted politically, but some of it may be much more black and white.
Indeed. Why is none of this already out there? Guess at least some part of the Deep State likes Trump just fine.
Marcy Wheeler has and excellent suggestion:
Are Democrats ready to risk “Senate comity” to push for that small step?
It’s not clear to me why such intercepts would remain unpublished for the public to consider when the means could remain classified. But much holding back is likely to happen.
Bald assertions w/o evidence from unnamed sources reported as solid fact is all we’ve had so far, and it’s likely the final report would stay on that track.
I don’t see a Sam Ervin or Lowell Weicker in the bunch. Collins, the kindiegarten teacher, is not exactly the reincarnation of Margaret Chase Smith. Warner has been a nonentity so far in the senate, and it doesn’t inspire confidence that he’s been a softie on Trump appointees. Would he have the courage to insist on a real investigation w/full public disclosure, or would he have the cojones to go against the current anti-Putin grain and call out as suspicious or very weak the so-called evidence he’s given?
Of course, Ervin surprised people with his aggressiveness on that senate comm’ee, so it’s possible Warner and even Collins could step up as a profile in courage. But I doubt if history will repeat. Or even rhyme.
Again, Warner’s aggressiveness (it it actually manifests) is probably a reflection of the fact that he’s the senator representing Langley.
I think that most people will be taking a wrong position on this development…a position that assumes disagreement between the parties, a position that has been fed to them by the interested Deep State-controlled and allied media.
I believe that both parties…in a Permanent Government/Deep State sense…want to get rid of Trump as fast as they can possibly do so without immense negative repercussions, and I further believe that this congressional investigation is the beginning of an endgame towards which the intelligence people have been working since it became even possible that Trump might win the presidency.
He’s going down, one way or another.
Now it’s only a matter of how and when.
This is the neatest, cleanest, least dangerous solution. The old wet work days are far behind us…or so I hope.
Now we have informational assassinations.
Virtual assassinations.
Is all of the “information” necessarily true?
I doubt it.
What we laughingly call “facts” are no longer necessarily true or false. Not on this level.
Why?
How?
Because no one but the spooks and the hackers…if those two groups are not themselves basically identical at some level…are in any position to even begin to verify them.
And life goes on in the digital age.
As it must.
Karl Rove pinned it in his little speech to Ron Suskind:
The basics of the currently quite effective information/disinformation/misinformation system were well in place fifteen years ago!!!
They’ve only gotten better at it now.
They got caught by a perfect storm with the Trump/Clinton campaign…”The Campaign Of The Deplorables”, I’m calling it. The one who best messaged those “deplorables” that HRC so self-defeatingly mentioned in a public speech got to take home all of the marbles.
Now?
Now the Deep State is in the process of rebuilding its damaged structures.
Watch.
AG
P.S. Remember the totally jive Warren Commission?
Like that, only better.
P.S.S. Can the power of the presidency stand against this kind of bipartisan, collective attack?
It couldn’t in 1974.
Why would one believe that it can do so in 2017?
Trump only has one trump card to play…a sudden “disaster” of some sort, one that requires massive executive action. He cannot create one without the help of the spooks, and the various U.S. spookdoms appear to be totally allied against his presidency. That leaves only the outside chances that:
1- Other spooks will find it in their interest to create such a disaster. Russians, Israelis, the various radical Islamic interests, etc.
or
2-What we also laughingly call “An Act of God” will throw a monkey wrench into the Deep State’s machinations.
Either possibility…or both…could happen.
Watch.
Also, remember, that the FBI was both Nixon’s greatest ally in Watergate and the source of his downfall.
There are factions within factions.
Indeed there are “factions within factions,” but besides the so-called powers of the presidency…which are actually quite limited if the courts and congress effectively resist them, the intelligence folks continue to openly fight them and the military digs in its heels (the only possible wild card in this deal)…the pro-Trump factions have very little real power other than Trump’s (rapidly fading, apparently) hold on the minds of HRC’s deplorables and possible further interference by interested foreign parties.
He’s either going down or he’ll serve out his term as a mere media distraction for the sheeple of both sides while the Deep State keeps on keepin’ on.
Or is it “keeps on deepin’ on?”
Whatever…
AG
One must bear in mind all of the various components of the bizarre “Russia story” that the nation has been bragged into by Der Trumper and his army of (mostly) white male sycophants. So far, I believe they can be described as follows:
The committees apparently are going to examine subjects 1 and 2. The has been no effort by anyone to get any kind of handle on 3, which likely is the basis for Trump’s strange Putin infatuation, assuming it is not the result of some sort of blackmail or payback for past services rendered.
The linked story does not indicate that the Trump family business grifting operation will be the focus of any attention by the committees. The nation thus will remain in the dark about financial advantage as a motivation for Der Trumper’s Russia policies.
Given that Congressional Repubs could simply stonewall the entire subject, I suppose we should be pleased with whatever is happening so far…
Note in the writeup above Booman quotes Collins as being open to looking into (3) via Trump’s tax returns.
Collins doing something useful, I will believe when I’ve seen it.
Well, whaddaya know: Darrell Issa, of all people, is calling for a special prosecutor to look into the Russia allegations:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/25/politics/issa-russia-sessions-investigation/index.html
Intelligence holds the cards, but it has to play itself out. And as it does, the Trumpsters will inevitably dig themselves deeper and deeper.
Anyone want to place odds on the Republicans being so stupid that the walk themselves into multiple felony charges to cover up a misdemeanor or less crime?
They’re toast — but it took a paper based in another country to explain clearly why. The author however is career US intelligence officer Malcolm Nance.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/25/trump-russia-fbi-white-house-priebus