A lot will be written about the following tweet, possibly for decades or even centuries. We won’t know the full implications for a while, yet, and it could be that it doesn’t amount to much in the bigger picture.
James Comey better hope that there are no "tapes" of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 12, 2017
Still, we can for now set aside all the legal implications, like whether there really are recording devices and if they’re subject to subpoena or preservation requirements, or what it might mean to threaten the former FBI director, etc.
Just think about what the tweet says about the terms on which the president and Comey parted ways. There’s the way Comey was fired, while in Los Angeles talking to recruits. There’s the fact that Trump didn’t give him the courtesy of a call. There’s the fact that Trump followed up by calling Comey a grandstander and otherwise impugning his character and reputation. There’s the fact that Comey was fired shortly after making it clear that the investigation of Trump was ongoing and in need of more resources.
And, finally, there’s the fact that Trump claimed that Comey wasn’t investigating him at all and had even assured him of this on three separate occasions. This claim is now what Trump is trying to defend by suggesting he has tapes to prove it. Maybe he does have tapes, but more likely he does not. He probably is desperate to avoid having Comey testify that he is lying.
But Comey has no choice but to testify to that. To assume otherwise is to assume that Trump is telling the truth, and if that were the case it would be for the first time in this whole saga.
Trump thinks the so-called Deep State is out to get him but the Deep State tried to warn him that Michael Flynn was in the pay of the Russians and he didn’t care or listen. He’s made war on them over and over again, from dismissing their assessments of Russia’s role in the elections, to disrespecting their dead at CIA headquarters, to now threatening James Comey. Only a fool goes after the intelligence community like this, especially when they’re not at fault.
This is an epic miscalculation by the president, because he’s in the wrong and virtually no one has his back. The few people who are half-heartedly defending him today will be gone tomorrow, but the intelligence community isn’t going anywhere.
Please proceed, Mr Trump.
His unfiltered, ham-handed, childish comments will get him in the end. He shoots from the lip and his handlers just can’t keep up with him. And while he lets his people whisper into his ear to help him make decisions, he wants credit for them. Like firing Comey; he made sure he got the recognition.
Trump is too stupid and too vain to be fully reined in. The FBI community already didn’t trust him or like him when he took office and started bad-mouthing them. And more of them liked or admired Comey than they like Trump. They work hard, and they have got to resent a cotton candy-haired baboon coming in and calling one of their own a Grandstander and shaming him in front of the country.
He’s offending people faster than he can afford, and no matter how brilliant he thinks he is, they are going to give him a “gotcha” that will burn him in his tracks.
I can’t wait.
Trump’s verbal and Twitter statements are leaving a very long, broad trail of evidence.
Until the Republican Party walks away from him, I am afraid he is here for the duration. The only thing which would change this dynamic is a Democratic rout in 2018. The intelligence community can leak and leak and leak until the cows come home. But as long as the Republican Party is in control of the majority of the levers of the investigatory bodies, I don’t believe they are going to allow that “gotcha” moment to occur.
This is the guy who said he could “stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody” and he wouldn’t lose any support. Everyone laughed and scoffed at that statement, but it is probably not far from the truth. The only vehicles our system has for removing a President are impeachment or the invoking of the 25th amendment. And both of those depend on the Republican Party taking their oath and responsibilities with the seriousness they deserve.
I am not going to waste time holding my breath. Are you?
Nope. Not me.
How he treated Comey and his ham handed treatment of the CIA as a publicity prop when he went to visit their headquarters will certainly solidify not just all our intel community but worldwide as well.
I can’t even put my head around the repercusions of having a world wide intel community, a brotherhood of sorts, now putting Trump in their crosshairs.
Something akin to the hunt for Bin Laden.
So….. If one can tell which chocolate cream pie is meant for Trump rather than others at his table by the two scoops of ice cream rather than one, and assuming he doesn’t employ a taster….
Just spitballing here, of course….
I mean, of course no Western intelligence service would ever do things like that, amirite?
Right? Exploding cigars, sure, what’s wrong with a little good clean fun, but….
Everyone who remembers COINTELPRO, the Church Committee, the Pike Committee, Danny Casolaro, Garry Webb… ought to have his back. It doesn’t matter whose back it is, when there are daggers sticking out of it.
An ‘invisible impeachment’ is no less damaging to democracy than the already-existing invisible primary.
There’s an endless stream of analysis regarding why Trump does what he does. I’m not calling you out, Booman; your analysis and insights are what bring me here again and again. I’m talking about the articles and news stories that seek to parse Trump’s motives (as if he were capable of creating strategy).
This parsing of Trump seems silly. He does what he does because he’s an imbecile. A malicious, narcissistic, paranoid imbecile. That’s really all there is to it.
Head, nails, hammer.
I keep telling my wife that Trump’s stupid and she gets mad, saying stupid is the wrong word. Well, what in the hell is the RIGHT word??? She doesn’t know.
I’m sticking with stupid.
This site suggest that arrogant or idiot is appropriate…
http://trumpinoneword.com/?all-words
I prefer “arrogant idiot”.
To me, the obvious conclusion from the tweet is that something was said between Trump and Comey that Trump does not want out in the open. Did Trump ask for (and not get) assurances of an FBI whitewash of its current investigation(s)? Something along those lines seems the most likely, and without a tape of the conversation, Trump will just deny everything.
One thing for sure – it is impossible to see how that tweet could in any way help Trump right now.
Why should Comey fear that?
He wouldn’t as long as he and those speaking on his behalf have characterized the conversation(s?) between Comey and Trump accurately. Does Comey have perfect recall (and/or notes taken immediately after the meeting(s))as people interviewed by the FBI are expected to possess? It appears that Trump doesn’t; so maybe he’s bluffing that Comey doesn’t either.
See my reply to NoCal carlo.
Comey does not fear Trump – Trump is afraid of Comey. Specifically, Trump apparently thinks that something he said in private to Comey would be damaging to Trump if a tape existed (and was released).
The way he said it Comey should worry. Did he indiscreetly pledge allegiance to Trump. Did he admit to sandbagging HRC?
Why would you give so much credence to what a documented liar and bully says?
The ball is in Trump’s court — put up (the recording) or shut up. Who is most likely to recognize a request or demand for loyalty by the President to the FBI Director is inappropriate: Trump or Comey? Everybody knows that Comey wanted to keep his job, but would he go so far as to offer loyalty to Trump to do so? Not likely but possible. Not even close to probable that Comey would admit to “sandbagging HRC,” even to himself. Plus, if anyone did any sandbagging, it was HRC and her team. She took a calculated risk: email communications not subject to FOIA v. exposure of her private communication setup. She almost got completely away with it. When busted, and unlike Nixon, her “Rosemary Woods” could delete without leaving evidence of the gaps.
“couldn’t delete” I presume.
This whole thread is based on Trump’s comment which was a threat to Comey. First reply said Trump should be scared if there is a record. I asked “Why” since Trump was making the threat. Now I have an answer, “Trump is bluffing.”
OK
No. Read it again: When busted, and unlike Nixon, her “Rosemary Woods” could delete without leaving evidence of the gaps.
America has set the example that Satan is at their Helm.
No, we missed her. We have Barney Fife at the helm.
And incurable in far too many cases, alas.