I feel a lot of pressure when people ask me if the Republicans will succeed in passing tax cuts through Congress using the budget reconciliation process. To understand why, a good place to start is the front-page piece the New York Times is running right now. A quick summary of the article is that the Republican Establishment is under siege and feels like their last, best hope of surviving a populist revolt is to deliver on taxes. It’s also true that they’re getting an earful from their donors and many of their supporters, but it’s their perception of crisis that is the most important factor arguing in favor of them succeeding in passing a bill. They’ve begun to look at tax cuts as the life boats and flotation devices lashed to the deck of their Titanic. It will be hard for any Republican senators not to go along when they see the panic in their colleagues’ eyes.
But every single other sign I see argues against the Republicans succeeding.
To begin with, the reason the budget reconciliation process is being used is because it allows the Senate to bypass a filibuster. The GOP has a 52-48 advantage, but it would take sixty votes to overcome the objections of even a single senator. To pass something, the Republicans need fifty votes from their own caucus because it’s highly unlikely that any Democrats will vote with them. With a fifty-fifty vote, Vice-President Pence can break the tie, just as he did yesterday to help gut consumer protections against forced arbitration clauses. Another way of putting this is that the Senate Republicans can only afford to lose two votes from their own caucus, and that gives all of their members an extraordinary amount of leverage to make demands or objections. Anything that three of them insist upon must be included, and anything that three of them reject must be abandoned. It’s not unlikely that opposing blocs of three (or more) could create an impasse that can’t be circumvented. This could happen on a variety of issues, as various as how we regulate 401(k) programs or whether the bill will be deficit neutral.
In the House, the majority is clearly there to pass a bill, but things begin to look dicier when we get into the details. The far-right conservatives are still steaming that all their budget negotiations this year have come to nothing as the president has insisted that they pass the Senate’s budget resolution. The House budget insisted that any tax reform bill be deficit neutral and also called for “more than $200 billion in savings from changes to mandatory programs like Social Security and Medicare.” The Senate bill insists on neither of those things. Things could break down further when it comes time to find ways to pay for or at least partially offset the cost of the tax cuts. For example, eliminating the exemption for state and local taxes would hammer middle class voters in states like Texas, California, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and New York that collectively have enough Republican representatives to kill the bill. It’s unclear how many deficit hawk hardliners there are who will never vote for the kind of bill that is currently under consideration.
The biggest problem, however, might be the president. He’s asking for things that are mutually exclusive and nixing one proposal after another. His press secretary announced yesterday that he wants the tax cuts to be permanent, but they’ll have to sunset after ten years if they aren’t budget neutral. Trump doesn’t want a budget neutral bill and is in fact insisting on larger corporate tax cuts than can conceivably be enacted even with a sunset. He promises that people’s 401(k)’s won’t be touched and that there will be no cuts to Social Security or Medicare. It seems like every time a tax writer in Congress floats a plan to raise revenue or cut costs, the president comes out and says that it will never happen. And his White House isn’t providing any real guidance that Congress can use.
We could get to a point reminiscent of the Skinny Repeal of Obamacare that the Senate attempted just before the August recess. Some kind of dramatically pared down bill will be produced that has little resemblance to their initial ambitions. It will entail only that on which they can all agree, which won’t turn out to be much. And then they’ll try to ram it home on the premise that they’ll suffer political death if they do not.
Even then, though, there are senators like Jeff Flake, Bob Corker, and John McCain who are not running for reelection and have broken dramatically with the president. They might go along with a bill to save their colleagues’ bacon but they’re unlikely to support a bill don’t like for Trump’s benefit. Flake and Corker, in particular, are fiscal hawks who won’t want to add to the deficit. They might not be too keen even on passing corporate tax cuts that will unhelpfully sunset after ten years, since that’s transparently stupid policy.
My best guess is that we’ll get to some kind of endgame like this. The pressure is so great to produce something that I would place my money on something passing. But I wouldn’t place a lot of money on it. The way I see it, the flames are already licking on the curtains and walls, and the functional Republican majority in the Senate is about to be consumed. The worse the relationship between the White House and the Senate gets, and it will probably deteriorate at an accelerated pace now, the worse the prospects for a successful tax bill. Time is not their friend.
What’s hard to envision is total failure. I think they’ll be able to achieve some face-saving gesture this time, unlike with their effort to repeal Obamacare.
And yet I envision a “face-saving gesture” that makes life worse for most of us.
So a ‘skinny’ tax bill would be a bill with virtually nothing in it, and they’d ‘reconcile’ (ie, write) it in conference, at which point, who cares, because they already will have ‘passed a tax bill’ so SUCCESS?
Although I try not to be too cynical, I think that if there are two arguments that don’t motivate Republicans, they are:
Although just perhaps there might be one or two exceptions.
Well Corker, Flake and Paul are pretty close to absolutists on the issue.
The only time I’ll be convinced that Repubs like Corker, Flake and Paul are absolutists on the issue is when they vote against something.
If I were a betting man, I’d bet that they cave. Hopefully I’m wrong but these people are a lot of empty words backed up by an all-too-predictable voting record.
I think that’s the whole ball game. Trump may not understand health care, but a lot of people don’t understand health care (or, health care legislation) and a lot of people are defensive about depending on the ACA even as they object to Obama’s “socialist” programs or whatever.
But as much as Trump doesn’t understand health care, he really doesn’t understand the federal budget or taxation or any of that — and, his ignorance is much harder to overlook. Saying “your premiums won’t go up” (when they will) is much harder to get away with than “your taxes will go down” (when they will in fact go up).
And all of this is compounded by his seemingly total inability to understand the legislative process — the way he thinks “the fillibuster” is to blame for losing votes that are based on budget reconciliation; the way he thinks that some Senator was “in the hospital” which is why Trumpcare failed — is going to be even more conspicuous and problematic.
So my money’s on this not passing.
My bet is they will produce something and it will be shit. Any takers?
Me!
Off-topic, apologies, but Atrios asks “What is wrong with Democrats?’
According to this Economist/YouGov poll now have a 52/41 favorable view of George W Bush.
http://www.eschatonblog.com/2017/10/my-lifes-work-up-in-smoke.html
I despair.
I saw that. I also despair; I’m definitely part of the 41 percent.
Most people’s approval goes up when they leave the limelight. At the moment the only public image of Baby Bush is helping hurricane victims, so yeah, his approval will go up. Compared to DT, dubya looks capable to the average short attention span American.
Right, plus people “send a signal” when they answer poll questions like this. “Approving” of W doesn’t signify actual approval in real terms so much as it’s a pointed rebuke of Trump.
Yeah, exactly this. I wouldn’t interpret the poll to realistically say much about Bush at all. It’s just another way for people to say Trump sucks.
It’s quite easy to approve of something you will never experience again.
Take food….I approve of cilantro, but it will never voluntarily pass my lips, and if I ingest it accidentally I will spit it out.
But I approve of it!
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Short attention span Democrats.
If we can’t even maintain a hate for GWB, how do we ever win? I mean, fine if his approval, after all this time, is temporarily up to 30% among Dems, but a 10-point majority? We’re like Vulcans fighting Klingons … and we’d kick their ass, except the game is ‘Enraged Bellowing.’
Democrats are terrible at constructing narratives. Bush should really be treated much worse than the contempt shown for Jimmy Carter.
UGH. That’s just disgusting, but color me utterly unsurprised. US citizens are teh stupit, it burnz.
One thing I will say, though, is that even I almost feel sorta kinda ok-ish when I heard W “talk” recently.
It’s just gobsmackingly revolting that Dolt 45 has set the bar so d*mn low that he makes W sound almost presidential.
UGH.
But approve of W? NO. Just NO.
could it just be that they approve of what he’s doing now? which what’s he’s been doing raising money for disaster relief and basically staying out of sight isn’t really objectionable
That’s how I feel about it: Still a crappy president, but currently being a decent human being.
. . . (though maybe that didn’t happen early enough to have registered in the cited polling?).
But no, doesn’t alter his status as lying liar, unindicted War Criminal, and all-around born-on-third-base-with-silver-spoon-in-mouth-and-thought-he-hit-a-home-run asshole.
It’s only the side-by-side comparison with Trump that makes him look even remotely human.
And, of course, the worse-than-useless Corporate Media’s (they’d rather have had a beer with him than with Gore, never forget) Centrist-worshipping Both-Sidesism compulsion towards rehabilitating the horrible, especially after their original crush on him.
I don’t know, he looks like George Washington compared to the current shit sandwich. Probably a combination of short attention spans, people who weren’t politically aware during all or part of his presidency, and comparison with what we have now.
it might be better if thoughtful analysts such as Mr. Longman would not describe Corker, Flake, and McCain as people who “have broken dramatically with the President.” We saw on Oct. 24 what that “dramatic break” might be worth when all three voted to overturn the CFPB rules to limit the power of financial institutions by forbidding forced-arbitration clauses and provisions renouncing the right to file class-action suits. All three voted to support Trump, and their votes were decisive. There was no possible defense on substance for these votes, and no defense at all for these three — who knifed their constituents without even a meagre political excuse for doing so.
More broadly, there is here an example for the longer term. People on the left generally put a lot of emphasis on “the propaganda of the word,” while people on the right seem to be willing to endure any amount of harsh verbal opposition if they can achieve “the propaganda of the deed.” On Oct. 24, Jeff Flake gave both sides what they value: a nice speech full of stern Trump criticisms for the left (for which he is still being lionized), and a hard-line pro-Trump and pro-plutocrat vote for the right.
But which of these actions can be turned into campaign contributions and potentially into political wins next year by the beneficiary?
Eh. That bill was standard issue pro-business GOP fodder. That Trump supported it was of no matter. Virtually any Republican president would have supported it. There’s a big difference between being anti-Trump and being liberal.
Can’t they just pass some anti-liberal tax cuts?
And if it’s hard to write the legislation for it, can’t they just resurrect the Bush tax cuts that sunsetted a couple of years ago?
It seems to me passing either bill on the table also looks like a bloodbath. The House one goes after SS and Medicare, which has always been the Achilles Heel. What Josh Marshall referred to as “Trump’s” tax reform plan, by which I think he means the Senate one, screws the moderately rich to help the very rich, but there are a lot more moderately rich and many of them are big fish in the rural small ponds that are the foundation of Republican power. The very rich are concentrated in New York, California, and a few other places, mostly urban. I don’t see that trade-off working.
The Republican Party has become a splatter flick. Chain saws in every direction.
. . . that I could contribute to for purchasing them more and better chainsaws?