Asha Rangappa is a former FBI counterintelligence officer who now lectures at Yale University. She’s written a piece for Politico that explores some fairly obvious points about the damage that can be done to our governmental institutions when we elect someone without good moral character. His main point is that it’s a very bad thing when, due to the president’s personal flaws, the courts have to get involved in defining and limiting his or her power. A secondary point is that when a president is aggressively investigated by his or her own executive branch’s prosecutors, it divides the country. The president’s supporters lose faith in federal law enforcement.
Not to be mean, but there’s not much more content than this to Rangappa’s piece, which is unfortunate considering the relevancy of her background. The main problem is that she tiptoes around the central problem in our current situation. It’s fine to lament that the nation elected a man with poor moral character which has now produced predictably bad results for the nation––results that are likely to get worse and worse with each passing day. But this is where we are, and the question of whether Donald Trump will willingly submit to an interview from Robert Mueller’s Special Counsel’s office doesn’t hinge on anything too complicated.
The president cannot do an interview with Robert Mueller because he isn’t sane.
I don’t need to sit down with Trump and do a psychological evaluation to know that he has highly peculiar traits, among which is an inability to cleanly divide fact from fiction. Perhaps he knew that he was peddling bullshit all along when he hyped the birth certificate “controversy” with President Obama. Perhaps he knows that he’s gaslighting people when he says that he’s been tougher on Russian that Obama ever was. Or maybe one part of his brain knows this, at least initially, and then that part of his brain becomes subsumed by another part of his brain that believe its own lies. What does Trump think about the size of his inaugural crowd? Has he convinced himself that he really, truly never once expressed doubt that the Russians interfered in our election?
If he were more cunning and in control of his own thoughts, it might be possible for him to talk to prosecutors and stick to the truth. This would be highly embarrassing for him because he’d have to admit to telling hundreds of lies that pertain to the Russia investigation. For just one example, he’d have to argue that he of course crafted a completely dishonest account of the purpose of the Trump Tower meeting his son, son-in-law and campaign chairman had with the Russians, but that it’s his right to lie to the people. He’d have to argue that he knew that this would eventually be exposed as a lie when the relevant emails and telephone records were turned over, and that even though he discussed the prospects of keeping those records hidden from the Special Counsel’s office, that became irrelevant when the documents were procured by other means.
Trump’s not capable of walking that kind of tightrope. He’s too reluctant to admit his own dishonesty. He’s too insecure to allow himself to be humbled this way. And he comes to believe many things that simply aren’t true, which makes it impossible to keep his balance when he’s trying to quarantine his political lies off from his legal vulnerabilities.
He’s bet everything on the hope that Robert Mueller cannot demonstrate the kind of coordination between his campaign and the Russians’ hacking and influence campaign that would warrant impeachment and removal from office. In the process, he’s already created a very threatening obstruction of justice case. If he’s going to survive, he can’t make things worse for himself by committing a hundred acts of perjury.
Like anyone else, the president cannot be compelled to incriminate himself. He won’t want to take the 5th amendment, since that carries such a strong implication of an admission of wrongdoing. That means that he’ll probably fight a grand jury subpoena in court even though he’s unlikely to win that case in the end. If he ever has to fall back on the fifth amendment, he’ll say that his tormenters are so hell-bent on proving something incriminating that they can’t be trusted. More likely, he’ll simply defy the Supreme Court and dare the Congress to do anything about it.
In one sense, Trump will do these things because he doesn’t have respect for our institutions and actually finds it to his benefit when the country is divided and untrusting of our institutions. But in a much clearer sense, Trump will do these things because he simply cannot tell the truth even when he’s under oath and facing legal consequences if he lies. His lawyers know this and have effectively admitted as much. That’s why they want Mueller to submit written questions. With written questions, the lawyers can write the answers instead of the president.
Even that would be unlikely to work, though, because Trump would never let his lawyers provide answers that are truthful admissions of all the lies he’s told. This is all the more true because Trump actually has obstructed justice, and an honest account would make that clear.
Rangpappa says:
Electing someone to the presidency with bad moral character isn’t just a 4-year embarrassment. It’s also a constitutional risk, since there’s a good chance these individuals will have little regard for how their actions impact the legacy of the office they hold—especially if they find themselves in the crosshairs of an investigation, like Trump does now.
There’s no reason to dispute any of that, but Trump’s malfunctioning brain is a more immediate and consequential problem than his bad moral character. If Trump has any defense at all, it’s that he simply can’t distinguish between fact and fiction. At a root level, he’s so unconcerned about the distinction that he doesn’t know how to act as if it matters.
A part of the problem is that a very significant portion of the population defines moral as “not having sex outside marriage”. Clinton, LBJ, Kennedy, Eisenhower are among the most accused of “bad moral character”. These men are also on pretty much on the short list for “great presidents”.
Maybe if the idiots who write this shit would define what they mean by “bad moral character” we could have an actual conversation.
Asha Rangappa is female.
“…it’s that he simply can’t distinguish between fact and fiction”
Oh yes he can. He has the classic salesman’s gift of deluding himself as much as he deludes others into buying whatever he is selling.
Its not that he can’t distinguish, its that he’ll say anything to close the deal. He considers truth to be just another leverage point. He sees other people constrained by truth as a bunch of chumps.
What you call malfunctioning is actually a survival mechanism that allows him to gleefully keep the game going, whereas any normal conscience-bearing person would have disintegrated under the strain.
Lacking a conscience is a marker for mental illness
Only if you lose.
Otherwise, it’s called “winning.”
He ain’t lost yet…but hope does spring eternal.
AG
I think we all got a sinking feeling when he took office and we saw that he was never going to reveal his tax returns or disclose any financial information. The emoluments clause is apparently toothless, and his administration did away with their morals department. He continues to take in money from his properties and also uses his office as president to expand those properties and their incomes.
He has also reneged on charity promises and believes he is exempt from any scrutiny. Trump is a compulsive liar as well, (not to mention REpulsive) and compulsive liars manage to convince themselves that when they say something untrue, eventually in their minds, it really IS true.
Honestly, I know he’s a serial sexual offender. I know he has literally no moral compass and he should go to prison but never will. The thing is, he’s doing serious damage to our government and to our standing in the world, and that will have huge repercussions.
If the Democrats are smart, they will draft legislation with strict rules about financial disclosure, and rules against continuing to make millions while president. When they regain the majority, they can vote them in. Since this country hasn’t got the sense of a damned goose, the rules need to be in place.
I have always thought, barring some event which upsets the whole apple cart, this is probably where things end up. And without a significant change in the balance of power in the Congress, there is really no evidence at all to suggest that he won’t get away with it. I know the politics of the situation almost forces people in Washington to say this, but I am still hearing people say they believe that, when push comes to shove, people will put country above Party, and do the right and just thing.
Sorry, but I don’t believe it. I just don’t believe it. That is not in the cards.
. . . you no reason to believe it.
By far the surest path to end this unbearable Presidency as quickly as possible is to take the GOP’s Congressional majorities.
We can do that in 2018. The conditions will be there for us. Let’s do it.
Apparently people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder have this exact relationship with the fact and fiction. They lie like they breathe. As @hoarsewisperer explains: they lie faster than they think.
In addition to his lies, he keeps revealing himself as having consciousness of guilt. As a narcissist, he will blame everyone else for his missteps and deny everything. He’s been at this his whole life, so he has it down pat. He has never had to obey the law, never suffered consequences for disobeying the law…hell, he doesn’t even acknowledge that rule of law is a thing. In his universe it isn’t a thing. Never will be. Add to all this him being a sociopath…hey. Now that he can dangle pardons in front of everyone, what has he got to lose?
“More likely, he’ll simply defy the Supreme Court and dare the Congress to do anything about it.”
Yes, and that’s a constitutional crisis.
I really hope there are smart people in the Democratic party who are gaming this out. Any serious corporation, government, or military organization runs simulations (scenario-driven games) to decide “If case A happens, we prepare response Z; if case B happens we prepare response Y.”
This is a fundamental part of competent leadership. Serious organizational failures happen when a) planning scenarios have flawed assumptions, or b) leaders ignore valid results from a simulation.
It is absolutely imperative that the Democrats get out ahead of this and prepare for a crisis. I don’t have much faith in Ms. Pelosi or Mr. Schumer to provide that sort of farsighted leadership, but I’m not prepared to suggest any potential replacements, either.
Whoever is in charge, now is the time to plan for worst-case scenarios. A crisis is coming which will rock our system of governance to the core. (I know, it seems like that crisis began January 20, 2017, but you ain’t seen nothin’, folks.)
Democrats need to be convincing as the “adults in the room,” as the sober managers who will uphold the rule of law and the sane functioning of government.
This requires detailed planning for how to present a measured, unified response to each outrage. By this, I mean a complete strategy for messaging in the media, voting as a block, and mobilizing civil society – even when these actions may seem doomed. I realize party unity is difficult, even in the best of times, but that’s why the conversations must start now!
As I’ve written before, my politics are such that I’ll never feel entirely at home in the Democratic Party. I certainly wouldn’t have chosen the current crop of Democrats to be saviors of the Republic. But that is the fateful hand you have been dealt by history. You are the last refuge for sane men (and women) in the U.S. Please don’t screw this up.
That sounds real smart and sophisticated but …
This isn’t chess, where you have one opponent with limited resources and possible moves.
It’s not even a military exercise where you test ways to deal with the Red forces.
There is a huge number of players with a lot of unknown agendas, all sorts of unforseen events that can and will happen.
Hell, we don’t even know what Bobby Three Sticks will do or when.
So I don’t think it’s practical to plan more than one, perhaps at most two steps ahead.
Well, scenario-driven planning has gotten pretty sophisticated, with lots of branching, layers of complexity and “black swan” events thrown in by really competent referees/facilitators. But I take your point – with three complex branches of government, plus the media, we can never game out every scenario.
Even so, it is possible to look ahead at multiple crises. Martin’s scenario is realistic, perhaps even likely. A “Saturday Night Massacre” on steroids, with dozens, or even hundreds of DOJ/FBI employees fired is also within the realm of possibility.
And, if you really want to be apocalyptic about this, take a look at some of the stuff over at the Arms Control Wonk site (and podcast.) The people who post there are serious scholars, and they are scared shitless about command and control of US nuclear forces. If an unhinged president starts issuing orders as Commander in Chief, what then? I don’t have much faith in the Generals (McMaster, Kelly, Mattis.) Who says no to him without being fired, and what are the next steps?
My point is, the Democrats have to be walking through some of these scenarios and talking to experts about crisis management and messaging. They really have to be the voice of sanity in such a way that the American electorate finds them convincing.
Game out your fear of a scenario where “…dozens, or even hundreds of DOJ/FBI employees fired…”
If Trump did this, the law enforcement and intelligence communities would dump out TONS of shit on Trump and his Administration. I believe strongly that they would create circumstances which would make it impossible for the Administration and Congress to function. They’re already functioning extremely poorly; it could definitely get worse.
Where did “Deep Throat” work, for example? And that was for abuses of power which were shallow compared to the atrocities you sketch here.
It was patently obvious that trump was an immature ignoramus and compulsive liar in the months leading up to the election. Who casts their lot with such a creature?
Who are those 60 million Americans?
(h/t Randy Newman)