Nice to learn that the president was “at ease” during his fascist rally in Pittsburgh last night.
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Martin Longman a contributing editor at the Washington Monthly. He is also the founder of Booman Tribune and Progress Pond. He has a degree in philosophy from Western Michigan University.
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It boggles the mind that Americans can applaud him and be a part of it. Trump is sordid and so were the Pennsylvanians in the audience.
No need to document the atrocities in that rally. Trump is a disgusting individual and an even worse “president” who reflects poorly on America. And so are those that see this man as “great” because he talks, thinks and acts like them.
I’ve been using “stinking sack of shit” as my standard Trump description. Doing this is very satisfying, in a very petty way.
My go-to descriptor is “Vainglorious potato head”.
There are so many of those cute, whimsical ones (“Orange Julius Caesar” etc.) but I like to try to get across the sheer rage, contempt and indignation.
My gut-instinct go-to is “Shut up, fuckface!!!” screamed reflexively whenever I hear his voice, as I’m lunging for the mute button.
Moon is not Pittsburgh
Not all Western Pennsylvanians…
You write:
Thank you.
Absolutely true.
Not all Americans, either.
On tour last week, a top-flight NYC big band playing arrangements of John Coltrane and Wayne Shorter music…very challenging stuff both for an audience and for the musicians…gave a concert and taught at Slippery Rock University, 46 miles away from Moon.
We also played and taught in Beavercreek OH, Harrisburg PA and Kennedy Heights OH (a suburb of Cincinnati)…all “deplorable” country if you pay attention to such crap. We were welcomed with open arms and real hospitality in each area. Astoundingly so, actually. Last fall we did another tour…a little longer and playing only Coltrane-influenced music…through New England and upstate NY. Same welcome there.
The people who planned and operated these concerts were mostly white, middle and working class, in their 40s and above, almost all volunteers. They cooked, they organized, they ran errands, they set up stages…they did everything they could to present this music to their home audience, live and in full bloom. The audience was very mixed on every level, as were the classes that we gave. These are definitely not Trump voters, who would run screaming from such intense music. These are the people that the Dems must reach…and soon…if they are to stage some sort of comeback.
I tried to get some sense of what they were thinking politically, but failed. Most of them seemed to have no “politics” at all. Or…they are simply so tired of the all of the foofaraw going on in the media that they have retreated from everything “national.” Good folks. Give them candidates and platforms in which they believe and they will flock to the polls.
I do not believe that it is any different country-wide. The Dems have lost their voters, by and large. Their voters are no longer interested in what DC insiders have to say. They have been betrayed too many times and they are smart enough to know it. Meanwhile the really enthusiastic voters…not nearly as smart, in my opinion…are still flocking to Trump’s various Trumpaganzas. He’s…entertaining…and that’s why they are there. Plus of course the everlasting politics of resentment.
It seems to me…and I have seen this all over the country, from Sitka, AL right on through to the beginnings of the midwest and my own general bailiwick, say from north from Maryland/Delaware right on up to Northern Maine and through to the Great Lake cities, then down into the Ohio/Pennsylvania borderlands…it seems to me that a real “silent majority” is out there, just waiting for a true champion.
Can the DNC be trusted to give them one?
It wasn’t trustworthy in 2016
Now?
ELIZABETH WARREN SAYS DEMOCRATIC VOTES FOR WALL STREET THIS WEEK ARE A “STAB IN THE HEART”
You be the judge.
Continue supporting DC bureaucrats and corporate-bought neocentrists? Prepare for another 4 years of Trump after this presidency. Or maybe more if he sees the opportunity.
Later…
AG
That’s “Sitka, AK.”
Duh.
AG
Also important to note, Moon, like McCandless/Pine Richland to the north, is mostly forest and agricultural land turned into the fastest growing wealthy white/tax flight exburb in the region.
It is not, nor ever was, a stereotyped post-industrial hub for the media’s made up Economically-Anxious-Working-Class(TM).
As my friend who teaches English in the district will tell you, it mostly made up of college educated people who, economically, did very well under President Obama while whining the whole time about how oppressed they were, how “entitled” residents in say Aliquippa were, and yelling “GET BACK TO WORK!” from Lexus/Mercedes SUV’s at striking teachers.
All true.
Because of course to as vile a racist as Trump is, the votes of non-white women don’t count. They don’t even exist.
As a white woman who definitely did NOT vote for Trump, I am still amazed that 52% of us supported this out and proud misogynist racist. A life-long Democrat in a very red state, I honestly believe that my fellow white women who voted for Trump did so because those like them support whoever the GOP candidate for office is no matter how obviously unsuitable for the highest office in the land he may be.
It truly is a tribal thing, and there is also the fact, sadly true, that lots of my fellow white citizens, of both sexes, will never vote for a Democrat because that’s the party dominated here by African-Americans. Albeit that any number of them tell me that they aren’t prejudiced and genuinely believe that they aren’t. I keep remembering the 40 something female fellow arts board member who said, ahead of the GOP convention in 16, that a Trump Presidency would be okay as his advisors would rein him in. I’m sure she probably voted for him.
This is anecdotal, but there were white women who voted for Trump, not for any positive reasons but because they couldn’t stand Clinton and wanted to cast a vote against her.
It really didn’t help that the democrats had as their candidate, one of the most unpopular presidential candidates in history.
As has become abundantly clear in the aftermath of the election, HRC did indeed have the deck stacked truly against her. Overcoming the truly negative and false perceptions about her was even more difficult than any who supported her thought would be the case. Again, anecdotally, shortly before the election a younger former coworker said that HRC would win even though she was a “LIAR”. Now, where did that perception come from? As my daughter said post election, “Mom, if she had won, “they” would have been after her from the get go”.
HRC was a more than qualified candidate, with a clear and accomplished record of service who also ran a decent campaign. The problem was not Hillary Clinton, the problem was and is the right and its current iteration as an extremist reactionary movement. HRC is a convenient punching bag because she lost and because she’s a woman. I do not fault her or Democrats. I fault those who voted for Trump, thereby condoning his incessant lying, his insults and his sheer dearth of ability and character. They are to blame.
Going forward, those of us who identify as liberals and Democrats would do well to forego the “if only’s” and keep our eyes on the prize. It’s up to us to save our democracy.
in the future elections for POTUS, I feel the Republicans (however small or large) will try to delegitimize that presidency. Since facts don’t matter, and they have the Faux Noise megaphone, it will not be difficult for them to do.
How can this country stay together as one when a sizeable fraction is so game for this?
Actually it was 52% of ‘white women’ who voted for him, he left out the smarter women of color…
. . . re-read the subthread, starting here, up to your comment.
Then it might be clear to you why it’s unclear who/what you think you’re correcting above.
He may have been “at ease” But his arm must be sore from throwing all that red meat.
I think the pig is feeling good about the Mueller investigation. I saw one of his sycophants yesterday saying he was negotiating an early end to the Russian investigation. And no way can Mueller force him to go to a grand jury or indict him. I don’t know what happened, but his man seemed happy about it. The pig throws lies and hate around like favors. Fascist indeed.
I begin to wonder who will challenge him? Joe Biden, Oprah, Harris…. ?
Biden, I think, with Warren as vice-president if she will go for it. If not Warren? Probably Harris or Booker, if they don’t blow it in the next couple of years by trying too hard. I’d love to see Deval Patrick, myself. A very classy politician, apparently backed by Obama. A female or an African American, probably. Vote counts and all…
Biden will promise one term, which combined with his apparent good shape should silence the old folks arguments. He has the confidence of the bankers, having been the Senator from MBNA for so long, and he has a nice common touch along with a working class upbringing. Plus, he really does look like he’d like to take Trump behind the barn.
It’d be personal, and I think that Biden could put a strong dent in Trump’s numbers plus attract many other working class whites who did not vote this time around.
Of course…that all depends on Trump surviving as preznit for another few years. If he goes down? All bets are off.
AG
Not to dismiss Biden out of hand, obviously he’s better than the current occupant, but the next primary he wins would be his first. I don’t see that he has any appeal with the actual base of the party (hint: it ain’t the white working class) and he’ll be 78. It’s time to let some of these young’uns take over. KG, Booker, Harris, Warren(I know, not a young `un), Patrick, all would be preferable to Uncle Joe.
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Not to the DNC ontrollers they wouldn’t be. Not yet. They all have to prove their…loyalty. Fealty might be a better word. Biden’s already passed that test.
With flying colors.
AG
I would think the DNC “controllers” would want someone who has demonstrated the ability to make it past Iowa, something Biden failed to do twice. Say what you want about HRC, she kicked Biden’s ass out of the race in 2008 and scared him off in 2016. The man isn’t top of the ticket material.
Perhaps not.
Different fighters for different fights.
He may be the only one with any chance whatsoever.
Or not.
A lot can happen in two years.
AG
His Bain ties will kill him with progressives.
Then there’s the fracking…
And of course Harris, by virtue of her time as a prosecutor and AG, is unacceptable. Handmaiden of ICE and head of the carceral state.
There’s just never a good Che Guevara when you need one.
Bernie is the answer.
Now what was the question again?
Who said “Let a thousand flowers blossom?”
Personally, I’m more of a Lennonist: “Well, you know, we all want to change the world.”
Does tRump not realize that him having to appear in support of a congressman whose district was won by 100% is a denounciation of him?
It doesn’t really matter whether or not Conner Lamb wins the district (and me and my $1200 certainly hope so) … this district shouldn’t be in play. At all. This district should be safer than Alabama.
Of course he was. Doing his Hitler-speech impressions is his comfort zone.