Here’s how you notify a Secretary of State that he no longer has a job.
Mike Pompeo, Director of the CIA, will become our new Secretary of State. He will do a fantastic job! Thank you to Rex Tillerson for his service! Gina Haspel will become the new Director of the CIA, and the first woman so chosen. Congratulations to all!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 13, 2018
I asked yesterday why Rex Tillerson was cutting his African trip short and coming home, and I anticipated that it meant he would be stepping down either voluntarily or otherwise. I also speculated about whether it might have something to do with Tillerson’s coziness with Vladimir Putin. Based on WikiLeaks’ response, it doesn’t appear that they approve of Tillerson’s replacement:
New Trump Secretary of State Mike Pompeo (previously CIA Director) cited WikiLeaks nine times during 2016 election campaign https://t.co/LyZliYTAR4
— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) March 13, 2018
That’s an obvious attempt to complicate CIA director Mike Pompeo’s confirmation at Secretary of State. But, in truth, you can make the argument that Tillerson was fired for being too tough on Russia.
US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson issued a harsh condemnation of Russia following a nerve agent attack on a former Russian spy in the United Kingdom last week, going further than the White House’s response stopping short of pinning blame for the attack on Moscow.
In a Monday morning call with United Kingdom Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson, Tillerson discussed the attempted murder of former Russian double agent Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia in the English city of Salisbury, according to a State Department statement.
“We have full confidence in the UK’s investigation and its assessment that Russia was likely responsible for the nerve agent attack that took place in Salisbury last week,” Tillerson said in the statement.
He continued, “There is never a justification for this type of attack — the attempted murder of a private citizen on the soil of a sovereign nation — and we are outraged that Russia appears to have again engaged in such behavior. From Ukraine to Syria — and now the UK — Russia continues to be an irresponsible force of instability in the world, acting with open disregard for the sovereignty of other states and the life of their citizens.”
The State Department’s position on the attack appears be much stronger than the White House’s response.
In truth, it looks like Tillerson’s fate was sealed long before he condemned the Russians yesterday for the nerve agent attack in the UK. Later on we can sort out exactly when he knew for certain that he no longer would be serving as Secretary of State, but I believe it was either Trump’s plan all along or it arose out of Tillerson’s response to being woken up at three in the morning on Friday morning in Africa and learning that the president had agreed to meet with Kim Jong-Un of North Korea.
Pompeo’s replacement as CIA director is going to be very controversial, too. Gina Haspel could easily be in a Hague prison cell with Serbian war criminals.
Haspel ran a “black site” CIA prison located in Thailand in 2002. The site was codenamed “Cat’s Eye” and held suspected al Qaeda members Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri and Abu Zubaydah for a time. The Senate Intelligence Committee report on CIA torture specifies that during their detention at the site they were waterboarded and interrogated using no-longer-authorized methods. Declassified CIA cables specify that Zubaydah was waterboarded 83 times in a month, was sleep deprived, kept in a “large box”, had his head slammed against a wall, and he lost his left eye. Zubaydah was deemed, by the CIA interrogators, to not be in possession of any useful intelligence.
Haspel later was the chief of staff to Jose Rodriguez, who headed the CIA’s Counterterrorism Center. In his memoir, Rodriguez wrote that Haspel had “drafted a cable” in 2005 ordering the destruction of dozens of videotapes made at the black site in Thailand.
I’m not overly inclined to be fair to torturers, but she was “just following orders” and no one above her in rank was ever held accountable for torturing human beings who were in CIA custody and at their mercy. On the other hand, she’s unambiguously guilty of destroying the evidence of torture by ordering the destruction of videotapes. I am sure she is in some ways an accomplished intelligence officer, but in my moral universe she lost the right to serve in our government, let alone to lead the Central Intelligence Agency, when she didn’t have the strength or character to resign when asked to commit acts of brutal inhumanity.
Technically, since she is the Deputy Director, I think Haspel can indefinitely serve as DCI on an interim basis without needing confirmation. As for Pompeo, trolling from WikiLeaks notwithstanding, I don’t imagine that he will have any real difficulty being confirmed at the State Department. So, this is a done deal.
What’s kind of crazy is that both moves might be an improvement. Haspel is at least an intelligence professional instead of a political hack like Pompeo. And Tillerson was so destructive to the morale and proper functioning of the State Department that it’s possible that Pompeo will be less of a catastrophe.
I guess the only remaining questions are whether Tillerson played a vital role in restraining the president and, if so, whether Pompeo can continue to fulfill that function.
There seems to be a school of thought emerging that any historical “restraint” of Trump that might have theoretically been accomplished by the likes of Tillerson, and maybe Jim Kelly, is ancient history.
In Trump’s mind he is on a roll. With his fascist freewheeling in Pittsburgh, to the David Nunes’ “no collusion” verdict, to his recently announced campaign for reelection; the Donald is on a tear. And no soft-spined, mealy-mouthed, lifetime bureaucrat is going to put a bit in this horse’s mouth. He’s unchained.
God help us all.
Oops, make that John Kelly, dammit. Guess subconsciously, I’m missing football.
The man lost four straight Super Bowls. How effective could he be as Secretary of State?
I’ll take him over John Bolton.
Bolton couldn’t even make the JV team in high school.
He was too preoccupied blowing up frogs with firecrackers and pulling the wings off flies.
Pompaeo was all in the Benghazi smear. He will aid and abet trump. Much worse is coming.
The ‘much worse’ will likely be these two being led/steered into blundering into war/atrocity with Iran and/or N. Korea whereupon anything is possible and by anything I mean multiple reentry vehicles landing stateside issued by third parties.
Pompeo acknowledges the reality of Russian interference, does he not? Perhaps he will be a slight upgrade over a guy who, as far as I could tell, did essentially nothing and got fatigued on routine international travel.
Pompeo acknowledges the reality of Russian interference, does he not?
He’s not as friendly towards Putin. Then again Tillerson’s friendliness had more to do with business interests. Pompeo is a fundie Christian theocrat, remember. He also once wrote a Drudgico op-ed titled “Leave the Koch Brothers alone!!!!” I really don’t think Pompeo is better than Tillerson, unless you like another war breaking out.
I bet he also acknowledges the reality of unicorns.
How can someone so deluded be placed in a position where he can derail the ongoing pursuit of peace and friendship between our two great peoples?
Mir i druzhba, y’all!
Pompeo’s time at the CIA has given him more information about the donald than Tillerson or anyone in the WH has learned in the last year. Is it the kind of info that enables a new donald blackmailer?
You write:
Trump is not going to be “restrained.” Not as long as he is president and can use his “You’re fired!!!” lick. Nothing short of a massive defeat in the coming election…a virtual rejection of Trump and of his polices…will even slow him down.
And Pompeo? In the preceding paragraph you label him a “political hack.” That’s just abut right. How do you think a political hack is going to restrain Trump? He feast on political hacks. Look at what he did to his opponents in the Republican primary for all you need to know about that idea. Pompeo will every daycrawl into the Awful Office on his knees, begging not to be thrashed too badly by his master.
Plus Haspel?
You write:
Ye gods man!!! The same intelligence professionals whose “intelligence” regarding Russia you now overwhelmingly support were responsible for human rights violations that defy imagination. How many Abu Zubaydahs do you think there were? Thousands? More? Haspel was “just following orders!!!??? That’s what the Nazis at Nuremberg said, goddamnit!!! The intelligence “professionals” were all “just following orders,” the same as they were following orders in the drone wars and the illegal surveillance system set up under Barack Obama, the same as they are now following orders in the anti-Trump wars.
What I want to know is this:
Exactly who is…and was…giving these orders?
Obama? Bush II? Give me a break. If they were the guilty parties, why are they now luxuriating in post-presidential splendor instead of sitting in a box listening to a litany of their crimes?
And…as usual…the real answer is blowing in the wind. Blowing In the hot air wind of politics as usual.
I received an email from the Sanders people this morning. Here is some of what it said.
And here…on this so-called “progressive” blog…I continue to be chastised for saying exactly the same thing.
Think on it.
I know that you know better.
You do too.
AG
I don’t love how you pull my remarks out of context.
I wrote just following orders in quotes for a reason and then I said that in my moral universe she is unfit to serve in government in any capacity.
And then I said she might be an improvement.
Get the point?
Yes.
I do “get the point.”
Do you get mine?
You want Haspel to have resigned in protest regarding the anti-human policies of her bosses.
She didn’t.
Why?
Maybe she couldn’t afford to; maybe she thought the ends justified the means or maybe she feared for her own wellbeing and that of her family. I really don’t know.
You continue to support the current media activities of exactly the same people and organizations in which she served at the time. When are you going to “resign?”
Seriously.
Do you think that they have somehow miraculously reformed themselves, Booman? Somehow become soldiers for the good?
I don’t.
I think that they will continue to lie, murder and torture etc. in support of what they think is their “duty,” just as they have done since the end of WWII. Look around to see where that effort has brought us. Please. About 50% of the population no longer believes anything the government tells us. Is that any way to run a country? I don’t think so. And if it is, when does that still rising percentage reach a point where only the barrel of a gun ensures sufficient obedience to run the country? 60%? 80% When?
Soon, it seems to me.
Betcha Trump can’t wait until that’s the result of his efforts and those of his opposition.
Betcha.
He’s just Steve Bannon in a more expensive clown suit.
Yesterday I wrote a piece here titled False News, An Attempt at Understanding the Concept, And Down the Rabbit Hole We Go, and several days earlier I wrote another piece, You Cannot Lie A Liar Offstage. A Perfect Example Of Collusion With Fake News.
Both were attempts at degrading our current national love affair with the intelligence forces who are…for their own purposes and with their own methods…currently involved in a massive media battle to bring down Donald Trump. This is a noble idea in the abstract, of course, but one must question where these forces will strive to bring us once Trump is somehow defeated…if indeed their efforts meet with success. I don’t believe that they will succeed, myself…not using these techniques, anyway. The same way I long ago tried to warn people here that we cannot laugh a clown offstage, we also cannot lie a liar offstage. Only the unalloyed truth will do that, and unalloyed truth from the mouths of well established, long-time professional liars is rarer than hen’s teeth.
I was opposed here when I stated that one cannot believe anything that a liar says, but I maintain that position.
The Liar’s Paradox
The solution to this paradox?
“Everything I say is a lie” is the one truth that a serial liar can say. Of course…they won’t say that, because it would fuck up their game, but there it is.
Deal wid it.
AG
your mind wasn’t built for dealing with the world of espionage. It just shuts down in the face of such ambiguity. Click>Off>zzzzzzzzzz
“Ambiguity,” eh?
One person’s proud acceptance of such ambiguity is another’s curse of cowardice.
How proudly accepting of the “ambiguity” of espionage would you remain if…instead of growing up middle class white in the fine sanctuary of Princeton, NJ (with all the trappings such an upbringing offers to an intelligent man in later life)…you had come of age relatively poor in say the Middle East or some other U.S.economic imperialism-blighted third world country? How acceptable would that ambiguity seem if it resulted in the deaths and mutilations of your own family and friends and the destruction of your country and culture? Willing acceptance of “the ambiguity of espionage” in that case wold be evidence of sheer, self-interested cowardice.
How many intelligence professionals…good men and women who initially got involved in that world in the belief that they were fighting for a greater good…have left those services and now fight against them? The list is long, and mostly honorable.
I honor them.
The CIA today is about as ambiguous as a punch in the mouth.
Ally yourself with it at your own loss.
AG
It hasn’t occurred to you what it means that when I was playing at my friends’ houses, I was sometimes playing in the living room of a CIA officer or analyst. Or what it means that I spent my formative years in the sanctuary of great privilege and then spent thirty years exploring the shortcomings of that upbringing, the blinkers it puts on people, the arrogance and hubris that is endemic in that world. It’s safe to say that I’ve only tolerated your excesses and insults precisely because I value anyone who is willing to question all of that.
But you suffer from a different problem than I do. You can only imagine what that world is really like and what virtues and shortcomings those people have. And your imagination is not very perceptive or intuitive. So, while I have to constantly remind myself that our establishment deserves to challenged on all fronts, I also know that their health is the same as the health of the nation. They run the country and always will, and if new people come in, they’ll need to be challenged, too. But you don’t understand these people at all and so they all run together into one big nefarious entity. You don’t see them as a community of people, both good and bad, generous and greedy, worthy and unworthy. More than anything, they rely on good leadership. If given appropriate tasks, they can be excellent and moral for the most part. If told to invade, occupy and torture, their morals are compromised just as easily as soldiers in the field or cops on the beat.
Regardless, I know them because I come from them. That doesn’t mean that I defend them when they don’t deserve it, but it means that I know what it takes to make them function and what leads them astray.
Right now, they are trying to resist something truly evil. Believe them or not, I don’t really care what you do.
Venal people, to take one example, think everyone is venal. They perhaps have to think everyone is venal, to live with themselves.
snip: “About 50% of the population no longer believes anything the government tells us. Is that anyway to run a country”
Ha ha ha. We know in which half you belong.
Gilroy is a crank. Full stop.
I agree with other commenters that there is simply no “restraining” Trump. Frankly the new normal is most of us shrugging when Trump does the outrage de l’heure anymore. Who can keep up? Outrage exhaustion has set in.
Vis Tillerson, I always figured he was a goner from the State, but it appears that Trump permitted him to say on juuuuust long enough that he didn’t have to pay taxes on all the Exxon shares that he had to sell when he quit that job to work with the Orange Foolious. I know that there were some rather severe tax penalties for Rexxon, if he quit/was fired before he worked a full year. So, Trump at least granted him that.
Now we have Pompeo at State, so we’ll see if Trump gets his WAR, Inc on. I think that’s the goal.
As for Haspel, please spare me any “excuses” for that awful torturer. No. Just No. And I will GO THERE and say: “Thanks Obama for ‘looking forward.'” What a great plan, man. See what happens.
Pile on if you wanna. I calls it as I see it. Haspel should be behind bars, not in charge of the CIA. War Crimes in the extreme. No excuses. None.
I’m standing by for Tillerson to appear on TV to kiss trump’s ass. No shame.
No links, but I read somewhere that when Rexxon listed a bunch of people he was thanking for whatever while he was SOS, he didn’t include Trump.
So we’ll see if Rexxon kisses Trump’s flabby heinie or not.
After all, Rexxon did call Trump a f**king moron. Truer words were never spoken.
. . . name for a rock band. Preferably one that sings in French, though not required.
Curious if Tillerson will be interviewed by Mueller now.
Well he is having a news conference @ 2
Could be interesting
VOX has an interesting article up titled:
He hallowed out the department, made few appointments and made no impact on his boss. In truth they place some blame on Trump, in addition to Rex’s lack of knowledge on the State Department.
Well, isn’t this just sweet:
Goldstein fired.
Can you say “Saturday night massacre”?
“Tillerson was so destructive to the morale and proper functioning of the State Dept…”
The destruction likely arose from implementing the express wishes of Der Trumper, with which Rexxon may or may not have agreed. Either way it’s an indictment of Rexxon, since we certainly know he did not have the backbone to argue on behalf of protecting his department from being destroyed.
And he certainly was not competent to hold the position, but that’s almost a given in the Trumper bunker. In any event the destruction is far too great for a Repub hack like Pomposeo to rectify.
There’s no bottom to the chaos. The government is in free fall. The Philippines are better “managed” than this, ha-ha…
Putin’s certainly getting his money’s worth, isn’t he?
Best investment he ever made!
If Haspel was cool with running a black site meatgridder that, if other intelligence officials are to be believed, yielded nothing but Geneva Convention violations, then what are the chances Trump FINALLY got someone willing to use an agency as his personal vendetta settler?
AFDiplomat, if you’re out there, I’d really like to hear your comments on this news.
Also, could you talk about the unique ecosystem (bureaucrosystem?) that exists between diplomats and spooks in DC, and in our embassies overseas?
While I’m pretty hawkish by nature, I’m troubled by a system in which our diplomatic corps is hollowed-out, while our DOD and intel community take on an ever-growing role in establishing foreign policy.
I realize that trend has been going on since WWII, but this seems to be the apotheosis.
I also think this firing will be the last straw for any establishment Republicans of stature serving in the administration. No serious foreign policy professional wants to risk being fired by tweet, or being embarrassed while visiting another continent as an emissary of the US.
So, we should steel ourselves for pure amateurs and crackpots in the national security jobs. And, yes, I know there are plenty of those, already. But it can get worse. It can always get worse.