I don’t like attorneys who do free lawyering for guilty people, and that’s what Jonathan Turley is engaged in here. And I am being generous, because Turley is doing more than offering free public relations for Michael Flynn. He’s using his legal mind and credibility to inject poison into the mind of the public.
I am not going to assume that Andrew McCabe is telling an unvarnished version of the truth when he says that he did not intentionally mislead federal investigators who were looking into his role in authorizing a briefing for a reporter during the last days of the campaign. He claims that when he realized that some of his answers “were not fully accurate or may have been misunderstood” that he “took the initiative to correct them.” He blames any inaccuracies on his having been “confused and distracted” at the time he was questioned. He takes full responsibility for his errors and insists it was not a “lack of candor” that led to the misunderstanding. I don’t really know what any of that means, and I won’t understand it until I see the Inspector General’s report. What I feel confident in saying now, however, is that what McCabe did was not equivalent to what Flynn did.
Turley suggests that one of two things should happen. Either McCabe should be charged with lying to investigators under the same 18 U.S.C. 1001 statute used to charge Michael Flynn or the charges against Flynn should be dropped.
I have admittedly been a longtime critic of the use of 18 U.S.C. 1001 and how it has been used by prosecutors to indict for any statement deemed misleading or false. However, the greatest danger is posed not in the broad scope of this law but its arbitrary enforcement. Two officials are accused of misleading statements in interviews. One is bled financially to the point that he must sell his house and then forced into a criminal plea. The other gets a delay in his pension. Both were very very busy people, but only one is looking at prison.
One part of this is another iteration of something I’ve seen conservative lawyers do repeatedly in these types of cases, including the Scooter Libby prosecution. They suggest that there is something wrong when a prosecutor uses one statute instead of another or ignores the Justice Department sentencing guidelines when offering a plea deal or decides to charge something other than the underlying crime that led to the investigation in the first place. This is all obfuscation.
Turley is really explicit when he throws this sand in our eyes.
Once again, it is not a sufficient argument to note that Flynn was facing other charges. Prosecutors are under a sworn duty to apply laws faithfully and fairly. They are not allowed to simply charge any crime that is convenient. They must be able to attest to applying the criminal code in a consistent fashion. We do not know how strong the other alleged crimes were against Flynn. We have one crime that the prosecutors maintained was established on the facts in the indictment. Those facts are strikingly similar on that crime to McCabe.
Flynn was charged under the 18 U.S.C. 1001 statute because he had to be held accountable for something. Of the plethora of options available to Mueller, it was the most suitable statute because it carried the appropriate range of punishments considering that Flynn was offering to plead guilty and cooperate with the investigation of the Trump campaign.
I wrote about this almost eleven years ago when I cited prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald’s explanation for why he didn’t charge Scooter Libby or anyone else for the crime of outing Valerie Plame Wilson.
FITZGERALD: When you do a criminal case, if you find a violation, it doesn’t really, in the end, matter what statute you use if you vindicate the interest. If Mr. Libby is proven to have done what we’ve alleged — convicting him of obstruction of justice, perjury and false statements — very serious felonies — will vindicate the interest of the public in making sure he’s held accountable.
It’s not as if you say, “Well, this person was convicted but under the wrong statute.”
Except, for people like Turley, that’s exactly what this is like. Anything else is an unequal application of the law and an injustice.
Flynn agreed to cop a plea and cooperate in return for having decades of potential prison time knocked off of his charges. That he was still charged was a way of vindicating “the interest of the public in making sure he’s held accountable” for his actions, but in the end it was the end result of a protracted negotiation. You don’t look at that and say he was charged with the wrong statute.
For all of these reasons, you also can’t compare the situation to the one McCabe finds himself in. He was fired in humiliating fashion which is one way of vindicating the public’s interest in holding him accountable. Suggesting that he’s getting off easy is dishonorable absent some evidence to support it, and Turley has no more information than the rest of us do, so he’s in no position to say if McCabe ought to be charged with a crime.
In the worst case scenario, McCabe deliberately lied to investigators about his role in doing something completely legal. Turley insists this is the worst case scenario for Flynn, too, which is ludicrous on its face. Even on the narrow question of Flynn’s conversations and meetings with Russian officials, the suspicion is that he was compromised by the Russians and subject to blackmail. He was being investigated for offering the Russians sanctions relief and other benefits in return for services rendered. Whether he was doing this for himself or on the president’s behalf or some combination of both, it would be the most serious of crimes and not at all akin to what McCabe may have been trying to hide. McCabe was within his authority as deputy director of the FBI to sign off on a briefing for a reporter. There’s no allegation this briefing was done to cover up a crime. There is no underlying crime. There’s nothing other than the misleading statements themselves that needs to be vindicated.
I used to have some respect for Turley, but his willingness to use this kind of rhetoric is totally irresponsible and it’s just helping to tear this country apart as the two political sides increasingly cannot agree on even a basic set of facts. Turley provides the right with a high-minded sounding authoritative legal argument to believe that the laws have been unequally applied and that Flynn has been railroaded. And it’s the worst kind of bullshit.
This whole redirection argument that Turley uses is so old. It’s like listening to a troll in white shoes as he dances in front of the conversation trying to get people not to look at what is over his shoulder, which is the goal posts.
Turley used to have a reputation for legal integrity; I wonder what (or who) happened to him?
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Obama happened. He’s never forgiven him for not pursuing the torturers.
https:/www.salon.com/2009/01/20/turley
Don’t be silly. Turley’s always had idiosyncratic views that don’t map neatly onto party politics. He argued in favor of Clinton’s impeachment. He’s making a terrible argument here but he’s not pursuing some vendetta out of personal pique.
Maybe it’s not personal, but after voting for Obama, he has almost from day one decried most of Obama’s actions starting with the one I cited above.
Had he been as vigilant in decrying Trump’s actions rather than persistently declaring that no evidence of collusion has been shown, I might be more convinced.
I followed his blog for several years and saw a marked move from defending all free speech to defending law enforcement’s actions curtailing it. JMO
In addition to prevdem’s respose, I’d note that the general history of Turley’s punditry in response to recent Administrations has been:
Clinton- well, if you’re arguing for impeachment…
W. Bush- very critical
Obama- very critical
Trump- universally deferential
It’s particularly hard to square Turley’s responses to the first and last on this list. What Bill did is far worse than what The Donald and his crew have done? Puleeze.
I just took a peek at Turley’s comments about Hillary. They’re extremely hostile, and stray far from legal analysis into Clinton Derangement Syndrome territory. Perhaps this is coloring his analysis of the Trump gang. It’s pretty obvious he has feelings about all this stuff; his rhetoric is not dispassionate.
He wants to be a SC judge. With Trump, this is how you do it.
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I mean, look at this bullshit. All personal invective, no legal analysis. Turley left respectability behind a while ago.
And look at the comments to Turley’s post to see the loathsome company his blog is drawing.
I’m not saying Turley’s a good guy- he’s not. I AM saying he hasn’t suddenly become a different guy out of personal animus toward Obama because he didn’t aggressively pursue criminal charges against Bush regime torturers.
OTOH, the over the top Clinton hate is strong with this one.
Really? When?
Turley has been nothing but hacky little weasel his entire life as far as I can tell.
First watched him during the Clinton/Lewinsky affair and it took very little time to see him for what he is: A holier than thou little prick.
He hasn’t changed, nor has his shtick aged well, either.
Absolutely cannot stand pundits who know better yet make deliberately disingenuous arguments. The absolute baseline standard for opinion writing must be that the opinion is honestly expressed.
Being disingenuous as a public writer is much, much worse than being wrong or holding a terrible opinion.
“Turley provides the right with a high-minded sounding authoritative legal argument to believe that the laws have been unequally applied and that Flynn has been railroaded. And it’s the worst kind of bullshit.” – Booman
Amen! Strategic, academic cover bullshit is the absolute worst.
I know a key person in the national immigration debate very well – he’s on the wrong side and entirely bright enough to realize that, but draws his paycheck tearing this country apart. You’d like him if you met him, and it kills me seeing what a gigantic tool he’s turned into.
As the great Upton Sinclair said: “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!”
Remember John Gotti and Sammy “the Bull” Gravano?
Mueller was the DOJ AG for Criminal then and authorized letting Gravano off of something like 17 murders (!) to get his testimony nailing Gotti. Gotti died in prison (as I suspect Trump will) and Gravano re-offended and is now doing 20 years for drug dealing.
I’m sure Mr. Turley could enlighten us as to why all that was wrong and prosecutors should never make deals with criminals or something of the sort. But if I was Trump, I would be very worried. That scoundrel Mueller will probably make Felix Sater a sweetheart deal too!
Oh, and by the way, (collusion, collision, confusion!) Mueller’s remit is to follow up any other crimes as he discovers turning over rocks.
And that’s also where Sater comes in (among others) since he was the thug that frequently worked with Trump on laundering all that money through various real estate scams. And just because the Russkies use shell companies doesn’t;’t mean the forensic trail can’t be traced. Mueller’s got the best people working on just that angle.
That’s why Trump’s in a flop sweat state at this point.
In 2016 I was charged with flying w/out a pilot’s license for a flight that finished on the lawn of the US Capitol Building. You don’t need a license to fly an ultralight, but the claim of the DOJ was that my gyroplane was out of spec and not an ultralight. IN every comparable situtation, I would have faced civil penalties (a fine). There was not a single precedent in all of federal case law of an ultralight pilot being charged with a crime (let alone a felony) for flying a gyro that was overweight.
My lawyers were completely certain that was not a defense. No matter how often the FAA failed to hand over a pilot to the DOJ for being out of spec, the DOJ could apply the statute to me if they thought they could make it stick.
Turley isn’t practicing law – he’s practicing propaganda.
It’s also the case that McCabe is cooperating with the Mueller investigation in every possible way, e.g. turning his notes over, and it’s not even interesting, since he obviously has nothing to hide; Flynn’s case is exactly the opposite: he’s cooperating with the investigation only because the plea deal was made, and we don’t have any kind of clear idea of what he wasn’t charged with, but we know it was more serious (in terms of prison time) than what he has pleaded guilty to, and it goes without saying that it was more serious than what McCabe is accused of (for which Sessions isn’t considering charging him, following the recommendations of the OPR, firing is deemed sufficient).
McCabe is definitely no more guilty than the OPR says he is. Flynn is definitely a lot guiltier than what’s on his charge sheet.
I think I see your error.
Turley is to the legal profession what Mankiw is to the economics profession, a shill for Republicans dressed up as an authority figure on the situation they are shilling about.
Mankiw: Tax cuts are really great for economic growth for everyone, best when given to rich people so they can invest. And I’m a Harvard professor so try to argue with that. Also, too, I’m not just saying this because I’m rich and want to pay less in taxes and the Republicans will help me.
Convicting foreign agents on a selected charge, instead of every single one they could be convicted of through plea negotiation, is unfair if other people aren’t going to jail for sharing the truth about an act they are fully empowered legally to execute. I’m a law professor and the fact that I almost always side with Republicans just proves how right their positions are.
Turley has always been a loathsome Republican toady. I remember him from the days of Clintonmania (the first go round), when he was a reliable prude and hatchet man. A real charmer.
He hasn’t changed one whit. I saw him recently spewing on CNN, opposite Jeffrey Toobin. Toobin’s face was something to see – I’ve only seen Jay Sekulow astound him more for pure gibberish.
I saw “Turley” and was relieved to know that we’re not talking about Kyle.
I don’t know if anyone will cover the March For Our Lives demos that occurred all around the US. I probably can’t until I get checked in to a hotel room after my flight tomorrow afternoon. I will say that being part of one of these events this weekend was truly food for the soul. The young people who spearheaded this in our community did a wonderful job and our attendance was surprisingly strong given how “red” our community is supposed to be. I am more convinced than ever that I am looking at the next Greatest Generation. I really hope I am not wrong, but right now, I know how I would bet.
Only about a quarter trillion news reports, social media posts and emails have reported on the many marches. So, no, doesn’t look like anybody much paid attention to it. 😉
I was thinking more along the lines of here at BT. Probably should have clarified. News coverage was definitely something else. Good to see all the coverage when I got back from our local march. Coverage still dominating Memeorandum.
Turnout where I live was crazy. Possibly triple that of the rally held on the day of the women’s march, though our city was competing with a huge sister rally some 50 miles away for that one.
Maybe he can be Trump’s lawyer because at this rate he won’t have any. Cobb and McGahn want out. Dowd is out. Sekulow is out. Kasowitz is out. Cohen is a mob “lawyer” who is probably a target himself. No attorney wants near him. A president without lawyers. Get Judge Napolitano, Dershowitz, and Turley. I’m sure they can go toe to toe with Mueller’s 17. All three have said a president can’t obstruct. Put up or shut up, legal geniuses.