I am sure that it’s not easy to govern Saudi Arabia or to maintain yourself as the head of a royal family with so many princes vying for power. If you’re interested in liberalizing the place, you’ll not only run afoul of the religious establishment but open yourself up for all kinds of behind the scenes intrigue from your rivals. Maybe what we’re seeing can be explained as a careful balancing act.
Saudi Arabia is escalating its crackdown on activists who had pressed for the right of women to drive, bringing the number arrested to at least 11 and publicly branding them as “traitors.”
The acceleration of the crackdown has come as a surprise because the kingdom is expected, in just three weeks, to grant the activists a victory by allowing women for the first time to drive. An international uproar over the arrests now threatens to drown out the accolades that Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the dominant force in the kingdom, had previously won for announcing the rule change.
I’ve noticed an embarrassing quantity of insufficiently qualified praise for Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman in the Washington press over the last year, and perhaps a lot of it emanates from a public relations campaign or simply from the fact that the Trump administration has thrown in with the Sunnis against the Shiites in what amounts to a regional sectarian war. Either way, a lot of hope has been invested in Prince Salman.
It could be that this hope will be ultimately justified over the long haul, but it seems to me just as likely that this is evidence the Saudi Royal Family simply isn’t a natural or desirable ally for the United States. If this is what a reformer needs to do to enact a relatively minor reform like allowing women to drive, perhaps the culture and dynamics of the place are simply too hostile and foreign to our values and interests to make a close alliance a constructive idea.
I still do not see any reason why the United States of America should have a dog in a sectarian fight between Sunnis and Shiites. I see no reason why we should be pursuing a policy that is essentially anti-Shiite. Our refusal (for the most part) to take sides during the Obama administration is what angered Saudi Arabia and their Gulf allies, but also what made it possible to get a nuclear deal with Iran.
In my opinion, our policies should be aimed at defusing sectarian differences rather than ganging up on Shiites. We probably have an interest in the stability of the Saudi monarchy, but mainly because we don’t want chaos and have no reasonable assurance that more moderate or moral alternatives are waiting in the wings.
As for Prince Salman, he can be encouraged to make reforms and praised where appropriate, but he should be kept at arm’s distance.
In truth, he needs us to keep a certain distance:
But both supporters and critics of the crown prince said Wednesday that he appeared determined to portray the change [on women driving] as a royal gift to Saudi women rather than any concession to domestic or international pressure, even if silencing the activists overshadows the reform.
“That sort of change has to be seen as emanating from the government itself rather than the West,” said Ali Shihabi, founder of the Washington-based Arabia Foundation and a supporter of the crown prince. He argued that the activists had failed to appreciate the balancing act that the crown prince faced in checking the power of the clerical hierarchy and its conservative supporters, who opposed allowing women to drive.
“These activists got carried away with being celebrated in the West as ‘the activists driving change’ and so on,” he said. “It all sounds nice and sexy in New York and London and Paris but in reality it is deadly.”
He added: “It further provokes an already resentful conservative and clerical class when the government is working very hard to temper their resentment. It puts meat on the bones of the accusation from the religious class that this is all a Western-driven agenda.”
That all makes sense until you think about the cost:
Pro-government news outlets and social media accounts have called them “traitors,” with one account splattering the word in red across their faces, or as “agents of embassies,” suggesting they worked for foreign governments. One newspaper said they could face as much as 20 years in prison for treason.
News reports have identified some of those arrested. One of the best known, Loujain al-Hathloul, is in her late 20s; she was previously detained for more than 70 days in 2014 for trying to post an online video of herself driving into the kingdom from the United Arab Emirates. Others include a retired professor with five children and eight grandchildren; an assistant professor of linguistics who is also a blogger in English and the mother of four; a psychotherapist in her mid-60s; and a twentysomething nurse in Riyadh, the Saudi capital. One of a handful of men arrested is a lawyer who defended Ms. Hathloul when she was previously arrested.
We criticize this kind of behavior wherever else it occurs, but when it happens in Saudi Arabia we rationalize it. Some regrettable things can be rationalized, of course, yet that doesn’t mean they should be celebrated or overlooked.
It’s not our responsibility to remake the world in our image or to dictate to other people how they should govern or be governed, and nowhere are we less capable in these areas than in the Middle East. It’s for these reasons that our policies should be crafted to promote peace and to tamp down sectarian differences rather than to make alliances with one sect at the expense of another.
Right now whom the US government supports or does not support is predicated in the simplest way possible…..it’s who transfers the most cash to the Trump Crime Syndicate.
Right now that is Salman.
Once again…..the first country Trump visited after the inaugural was Saudi Arabia, and then Trump gave his approval for `ol reformer Salman to kidnap and extort and torture family members.
That sounds like Salman paid retail.
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So very true …
“…this is evidence the Saudi Royal Family simply isn’t a natural or desirable ally for the United States.”
I’ve covered this extensively I my diaries for at least the past decade with all specific analysis. 🙁
The extremist cult of Wahhabism is the scourge throughout the Western world through teachings in madrasses across the Crescent nations of Islam. The funding is always from fundamental teachings of Islam, brutalizing women and non-Islamic religions from Christianity to more modern and acceptable forms of Islam – see the Shia in Iran and Sufi Muslims in Africa. The alliance formed by Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and the US to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan has truly come back to bite the Western nations. The US has not learned the lessons from the past, not under Clinton, Bush, nor Obama.
The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is a terror state and exports extremism across the globe on a daily basis. It has done so since gaining (too) much wealth after the 1973 oil boycot and increase in their revenues. The Iraq War under Bush added great wealth not only to the Middle East but also the former Soviet satellite states of the Caspian Sea basin. Gratefully, the UK and US have signed contracts with the Gulf States for weapons of war. Wealth and corruption goes hand in hand, it knows no borders.
Agree with you 100%. I’m a Jewish convert to Islam and I see it in the mosque during this holy month of Ramadan. One brother tried to convince me that the Qu’ran teaches to hate Jews. I know this to be nonsense. I also know that such views are a direct result of Wahabist extremism. Fundamentalists, while claiming to uphold one faith or another, do more to harm religion than any atheist or skeptic ever could.
Thx!
As everyone can see, I have limited my comments on this forum to a minimum because of the scourge of trolling by marduk and nalbar over the past two years.
For every “1” rating I will retaliate with a dozen or so. Not something I like to do, but this is reality in this “community.”
As long as the US continues to import 1 million bbls per day from Saudi Arabian fields (2nd only to imports from Canada), the Saudi govt will be “natural allies” of the US, independent of minor details like human rights.
Precisely.
Thank you.
The U.S. is acting as almost every corporate power acts…do whatever it takes to make a profit.
Based on right or wrong?
No.
Based on profit or loss.
The whole “right and wrong” thing is simply whatever the corporate-owned media says it is. As long as we…and by “we” I mean all U.S.ians of every political and non-political persuasion…as long as we continue to let the various corporate-owned, propaganda-spouting media outlets (left, right and center) bend our minds to their various wills we have no chance of changing anything. It will just be the back and forth, up and down RatPub/DemocRat “change” game. You know…the one where nothing ever really “changes” except the the party in power and the style of platitudes issuing from the politicians’ mouths.
So it goes.
AG
We also gifted Saudi Arabia more caches of weapons and essentially endorsed their campaign in Yemen, and watched Syria burn so as to not anger Iran. This is what it meant to not “take sides”.
Take which side? The Saudis who tried to blow up NYC and continue to terrorize the world or the Iran fighting the Sunnis and Israelis for their right to exist. I see no benefit in taking a side.
Propping up and assisting in Assad’s crimes against humanity is not Iran fighting for its right to exist anymore than Israel is fighting for its right to exist by sniping unarmed Gazans.
Unless you meant Israel with regard to fighting for its right to exist with respect to Iranian aggression, and Iran fighting Sunnis. In which case yes, we should not “take sides” in a sectarian war. But our actions facilitate these conflicts in some ways as they’re meant to diffuse them in others, which was my point: in order to placate KSA, Obama bribed them with weapons and green lighted their aggression in Yemen. Was that necessary? Don’t know, but it was a “cost of doing business” that the administration applied to itself in negotiating the nuclear deal.
We didn’t “take sides” directly, but to placate the powers in the region we “took sides” in other ways. We need to be honest about that.
MbS is a libertarian facsist and authoritarian. What we have observed from a distance was a coup, plain and simple, and represents a change of direction for KSA which is irrevocable and yet difficult to predict.
. . . seems . . . self-contradictory? What am I missing?
If you think libertarian and authoritarian are contradictory outside of the dictionary you are in for a rough sleigh-ride. Think Peter Thiel. Have you actually read any of the Ayn Rand books?
Well, then you should realise they are as fascist as Plato’s Republic.
. . . that I said something about “fascist”.
Yes, I can see that responding to you was a mistake. My apologies.
. . . what I didn’t say (i.e., not, in fact “to [me]”) was pretty obviously a mistake.
If I saw any evidence the apology was sincere, I’d accept it, of course. But as things stand, looks more like face-saving diversion from here.
. . . seems a rather convenient dodge?
If we haven’t figured out by this point that the “Saudi Royal Family simply isn’t a natural or desirable ally for the United States” then I’d say we never will. Shah of Iran 2.0. What’s gonna be the Bastille of Riyadh? Of course, we’d ally with the Third Reich if it had had KSA’s exportable oil reserves, haha. The Monster Pick-up trumps all, from human rights to the planet.
The comedy here is imagining our Imbecile-in-Chief trying to sift through the opinions and advice of his vying Saudi Kremlinologists. Does the NSC team use pictures, video clips, cartoons or hand gestures? Maybe an SNL skit format, with von Bolton playing the Crown Prince and Pompeo as Netanyahoo? The Boss has different ways of “learning”, we are told.
Or perhaps our Trumpian courtiers really do just solicit the highest Saudi brib…er, endorsement of the closest Trump Hotel property….”He bought the ticket, Boss!” Why in the world would anyone think a lout like Der Trumper cares about “reform” (of anything!)