Nate Silver is struggling to understand what it portends that the Democrats have accumulated an unprecedented money advantage in terms of candidate fundraising. He’s worried that his election forecast may be off, and not necessarily by underestimating the Democrats’ chances in the midterms.
It’s obviously not a bad thing for Democrats to be well-funded but the question is whether that’s being factored too heavily into the forecasts. Republicans have a lot of outside groups contributing generously to candidates who don’t have a ton of money to spend themselves, so it’s not safe to assume that Republicans who don’t have a lot of cash on hand are necessarily going to be that badly outspent.
The fact that money is flooding Democrats’ coffers certainly indicates a high level of engagement on the left, but it’s not really showing up in other measurements. When you compare likely-voter versus registered-voter polls, there’s no indication that either party should expect a significant advantage in turnout.
Silver speculates that new online fundraising tools and better fundraising pitches could be making it a lot easier to raise money without it really saying a lot about the quality of candidates or their campaigns, and that could easily lead to the money metric being overvalued in his forecast model.
One thing Silver doesn’t really get into is how this money might be spent down the home stretch. He’s more focused on what the numbers mean right now. Does it mean that the Democrats are more motivated than the polls suggest? Does it mean that he’s tweaking the polls in the wrong direction? Perhaps he’s overrating the incumbency advantage in a cycle where loads of Republican incumbents have a financial disadvantage.
But another question he might ask is a little different. Rather than focusing on whether the polls are right or wrong at the moment or whether his model is making the right adjustments based on fundamentals, perhaps he should be open to the possibility that the surge has not yet fully developed. In this scenario, the Democrats will close very strong and outperform this week’s polls precisely because they have more money to spend in the homestretch. They don’t have to choose between advertisements and field work, for example, but can do plenty of both.
It’s well established that incumbents have a big innate advantage in elections, but we have to wonder how that typically manifests itself. Usually, it means that they have an easy time raising money, that they don’t have to spend it raising their name recognition, that it’s difficult and expensive for challengers to redefine them, that they already have an established and experienced political team, and that at least a plurality of their constituents have already cast a ballot for them at least once.
Most of those advantages seem to be missing or muted in this cycle, which could leave a lot of Republicans struggling with the downsides of incumbency without getting the normal bonuses. Congress is very unpopular and the country is restless and in turmoil, which means that this is likely a change election. Other things being equal, the electorate may be much more inclined than usual to “throw the bums out,” which could be costly for a Democrat or two, but will mainly work to the disadvantage of the GOP.
Silver is right to wonder what the financial numbers mean, because the Dems seem to be raising lots of money irrespective of how talented or attractive or viable their candidates might be, and that means that getting a lot of donations doesn’t really indicate that a particular candidate is doing an especially good job. But it does mean that they won’t have the same disadvantages that challengers normally face.
I don’t know if the Democrats will outperform Silver’s models, because that depends a lot on how he tweaks the top-line results. It’s more realistic, I think, to believe that the Democrats will outperform the polls themselves, or that they’ll use their money in the last weeks to create a turnout advantage that isn’t showing up yet in the polling screens.
It could turn out that the money indicates a lot of passion from the most politically engaged, but it won’t translate into added votes.
One thing is certain, and that’s that the Democrats wouldn’t trade places with the Republicans.
Probably a minority sentiment, but I’ve always been pretty underwhelmed by Silver and his predictions.
Yes. You don’t need weatherman to know which way the wind blows. He’s got about the same accuracy score as your local weatherman, maybe a touch better. He definitely bit it hard in the 2016 election and I no longer put even a modicum of trust in his predictions.
What did he get wrong?
. . . Some don’t.
Big fundraising = big windfall for political consultants and TV stations.
Right. The same consultants that tell Democrats to apologize publicly for actually uttering the truth once every blue moon.
Consultants may siphon off a lot of money for statewide elections but I think they’re pretty irrelevant for HOR candidates who rely more on the various county party organizations, volunteers and their own strategies.
The House? A barrage of TV ads. All midless. All kindergarten. “My opponent is a poopyhead!”
Some good candidates but you have to go to their website or a blog to find out what they are about. Throwing bug money on name-calling ads just turns people off.
We have a slew of offices up here in Illinois. But from the 30 second spots and mailers you would think that every office has only two candidates – Mike Madigan and Donald Trump. No wonder more than half the population doesn’t vote.
At least earlier we had some entertaining ads about JB Pritzker and toilets that were mildly amusing.
You refer to “HOR candidates who rely more on the various county party organizations, volunteers and their own strategies.”
You are totally correct.
But…on whom do the potential voters rely?
Most of them?
On the mainstream media.
And what is the mainstream media…left, right and center…preenting as “information”? As Voice says here, ” A barrage of TV ads. All mindless. All kindergarten. ‘My opponent is a poopyhead!’ ” Plus of course “The News,” slanted in whatever way that each “news” outlet has been bought and sold to slant it.
Also at “poopyhead” levels.
And we wonder why voters either vote for one or another sort of asshole or simply don’t vote at all?
Please!!!
It’s an open secret.
An open joke.
An open wound!!!
The media is full of shit.
End of story.
AG
The main problem with outside spending for the GOP by dark money billionaires is that the candidate doesn’t directly target or control it and it is really driven by an outside agenda, that presumably dove-tails with the candidate, but not necessarily or totally.
The upside is that the candidate doesn’t have to do any work, but just takes the money, or they spend it on independent advertising.
If the outside agency is really competent than the advertising might be very good, but some we’ve seen is terribly clunky and might even be counter-productive. It might also not be exactly the message the candidate wants down the stretch.
Best is for candidates to have plenty of money on hand themselves late in the campaign and spend it however they want to.
In previous cycles lots of Dark Money got spent in idiotic and counter-productive ways that ended up being wasteful.
One rogue factor is Trump himself is nationalizing the election by demagogue-ing the immigration issue – “migrants are marching towards our borders and it’s the Democrats fault!” This insane rubbish seems to be working in some very red districts and is magnified by Fox New’s lying scumbag media outlets.
Certainly Republicans are more motivated than before without affecting Democratic motivation. That probably is saving the GOP senate since all those vulnerable senators are in states Trump won.
It’s hard to know exactly since we’ve never had this polarized or energized an off-year election. People are really fired up and hate the other side. It’s bitter and pronounced and getting worse and worse.
But, if it’s hard to see how they retain the House now, since Trump is of course increasing the alienation of moderates, suburban voters and women who already don’t like him and by nationalizing the election is motivating the Democratic base turn out to vote against him. Since his approval rating is a net -10% and that is rock solid, that’s not a net positive.
But, in deep red states and districts it could easily save a bunch of bastards who dearly need to be voted out. So, it probably helps him overall.
Still, if the House votes in Democrats they will go on the attack against Trump, totally block his agenda, and investigate the hell out of all the corrupt Administration official including Trump himself.
It will also prevent Trump from burying the Mueller report. That report will be a jumping off place for Democratic Congressional investigators to follow up and develop information against the administration and keep up a constant media offensive against Trump.
In short, while holding the Senate will be great for Trump, losing the House will be very, very bad.
He’s already distancing himself from any responsibility for losing the House. It won’t help him a bit.
Good post. But I think it’s worth noting thatt if the HOR flips, the Democrats are going to have to sub poena the Justice Dept. to get Mueller’s report because the Trump Criminaal Administration will not voluntarily give it up. Especially if Sessions and Rosenstein are fired by Trump (actually his CoS, Kelly, as we know since he’s a coward).
Also, PACs pay a higher rate for ads than campaigns, so it’s less efficient to fund your ads that way.
It must also be hard to run your own independent GOTV effort since it would necessarily either duplicate or conflict with the one the candidate himself is running. Normally the Dark Money can’t officially co-ordinate with the campaign. That doesn’t stop them from doing anything, due to the idiot right wing S.Ct., but it still prevents official coordination and that means things will inevitably remain somewhat dis-coordinated.
In terms of GOTV that could mean either voters are missed, or under or over canvassed, which can lead to voters being ignored, or conversely a feeling of “being harassed”. You don’t want to piss off your voters by contacting them only to hear that they’ve been contacted three times by different organizations in the last 2 days. End result, they are beginning to resent the party.
The guy you didn’t contact might not vote, since nobody bothered to even ask for his vote. Don’t ask? Often don’t get.
Still, if the House votes in Democrats they will go on the attack against Trump, totally block his agenda, and investigate the hell out of all the corrupt Administration official including Trump himself.
Like they investigated C- Augustus and all his crooked buddies? I’m not holding my breath. Didn’t Pelosi already take impeaching Orange Mussolini off the table?
It is most definitely ON the table. They will hold all kinds of investigations and we’ll see what evidence we get. Right now, there are lots of political offenses and offenses against intelligence and morals, but those are not all impeachable.
What we need is evidence of straight criminality, and there’s tons of that, especially Trump’s Tax records. He’s definitely not going to release those, he’ll claim executive privilege and his pets on the S.Ct. will back him up.
So, this is shaping up as a full blow Constitutional Crisis and we’ll see what happens. But, that’s better than the Constitution being strangled in the dark by Republican fascists in order to perpetuate their power permanently – illegally and un-democratically.
But, they don’t care. Power or scorched earth. Libruls ain’t allowed to run things! We’ll burn down the country first. Just like they did in 1861. Nothing has changed with these morons.
There was plenty of evidence of George Bush’s criminality. And the Democrats did crap about it.
I’m hoping that most of the cash I dropped on Dems went to GOTV rather than media buys.
I hope so too.
I’ll pass on some good advice from my wife:
“Stop sending our money to those politicians! If you want to go to meetings and walk around passing out literature, that’s fine. But no money!”
I made an exception for Bernie Sanders only because he was refusing PAC and corporate money and accepting only small donations. But, I agree with her, what’s the use of sending $50 or a $100 to a candidate that is taking literally millions from corporate donors? As my wife said, you are just walking around with a “SUCKER” sign on your back.
The sucker is you if you withhold your $.
Either people fund campaigns or corporations do. We are in a direct competition with them.
They are willing to spend millions of $ to control state local and the federal government. All levels of government and the state and federal courts do their bidding.
And all levels of state and federal representatives and government, including the entire federal and state bureaucracy can only represent the people if they can get enough money so that they can win and hold power by doing so. Period.
If a progressive candidate promotes single-payer health care you can bet their opponent is getting big $ from Big Pharma and other institutional business interests, like the Chamber of Commerce and other right-wing Dark Money providers.
How much money can they raise? That will determine whether they have a chance in hell of winning and holding political office. What if they take corporate money? Depends really on what corporations are funding them.
Some might be harmless or beneficial. Not all business is “impure and evil.” And business interests deserve representation in a democracy. Just not total domination, like they have now.
The Democratic party prior to the Civil War was very much against the idea of government giving money directly or indirectly to business for development. The Republicans like Lincoln were the pioneers of that idea, which has culminated 150 years later in business interests totally taking over and writing all laws to favor and perpetuate themselves.
The only thing that can possibly stop this re-enserfment of the entire First World population, re-creating the moral standards and living standards of the Middle-Ages for the vast majority, amid unlimited extravagant display wealth by the 1% is if people acquire enough political power to limit theirs.
And that takes money. If your purity lets you stand aside, get ready for your children to live in a world where you must doff your cap when a Lord walks by.
Quite literally, our billionaire overlords dream of re-creating themselves as a Feudal Aristocracy. They’re more than 1/2 there. All they need is to repeal Article I, Section 9, Clause 8 of the United States Constitution, prohibiting the federal government from granting titles of nobility.
Think the Trumpites wouldn’t absolutely LOVE it if Trump could do that and force all the LibTARDz to call Trump Lord of New York or something even more offensive? They would gladly themselves call him “Your Lordship” if he asked.
Authoritarian lovers are perfect lackeys and boot-lickers, always eager to kiss up and kick down.
Voice likes to pretend Democrats are continuously running the same playbook as the 1990’s, despite Clinton running on policies to the left of Obama `08 and `12.
Meanwhile, the front runner (as far as I’m concerned) is running on cash transfers to the poor and lower middle classes:
Kamala Harris’s new basic income-style bill is so frustratingly close to being great
Is that what it does or is it a tax credit? And it doesn’t help the poorest of all. It’s always “the middle class” and never the poor. Also, $50,000/yr doesn’t go very far in SF or NYC.
Lol gtfo man. The median household income in NYC is 50-60k, which means half of the people there already bring in less. San Francisco is fucked until they allow more building of housing. Can’t help it when NIMBY rich liberals oppose every project. That’s what Elizabeth Warren’s housing legislation is for. Wow, it’s almost like you’re always arguing in bad faith.
Anyway, as the link explains, Sherrod Brown’s Bill is arguably better. Point remains the same. It’s not the 90’s anymore.
Why would I read Vox? It’s the West Wing of punditry. I read elsewhere that Harris’s plan is bad. DC Democrats forget the first two rules of politics. KISS and programs won’t be popular unless there is buy-in from the group(s) you’re trying to help.
. . . Better just keep things as they are, then.
The huge amount of small donor mostly online donations (ActBlue and others) I think are mainly affecting first time candidates and vulnerable Democratic incumbents. Yes, there are some non-viable candidates but I think the lessons of the past are pretty clear: you can’t beat somebody with nobody. The point is to make inroads into the offten ignorant and biased Republican electorate by talking about issues that are actually very relevant to them, notably healthcare and investment in jobs, especially in small towns and rural areas. Just as an example, Jennifer Lewis (VA-06), first time candidate to replace the execrable Bob Goodlatte who is retiring is opposing Bill Cline, also a first time candidate. The district was gerrymandered in the 1990s and previously had a Democratic representative. She’s constantly on the road and talking about her activities (rural environment and the opioid crisis). Given the number of cities in this district (5), which presumably is where the Democrats are and the mobilization effort, it’s still probably unlikely she will win but by no means out of the question at all, thi year, especially in rapidly changing VA. (Disclosure we have been periodically active in the campaign even though we are MD residents; we have a farm there). Nate Silver’s database doesn’t even include this huge district at alll, which is bizarre so can’t judge the polling.
You don’t get people to vote for you by calling them ignorant and biased. Just ask Hillary Clinton.
Oh, that’s right Communists brainwashed them into not voting for her. SHE did nothing wrong.
SHE got 65.8 million votes. She told the truth. Anyone who identified with that truth wasn’t going to vote for her anyway.
Is she in the White House? Do you think the millions she insulted have learned the error f their ways and are now willing to acknowledge their masters’ superiority?
They weren’t the ones who needed to learn. Those who didn’t vote or voted third party were. Those who thought “the parties are just the same” or “I have to be inspired” were. We’ll know soon if they did.
It’s Voice.
“Bitch f*cked everything up!” is about 75% of his output.
A lot of people, mostly women, have come to the realization that they made a mistake when they stayed home or voted for the “businessman”. How is it possible you are not aware of this?
. . . “ignorant and biased”? Be specific. Also explain why you seem to self-identify with whatever group you claim that is, and how anything she actually did say supports your claim. And again, be specific. Links.
To be fair, Nate Silver is trying to understand a math problem – how to include an extreme outlier into a predictive model. In a lot of scientific work, outliers are discarded completely.
Most of the data he’s looking at suggest a modest Democratic wave, and this one data point suggests a massive upset.
Outraising your opponent is great for a campaign, but outraising him 2-1 probably doesn’t double your chances of success.
Let’s hope that the Democrats are using their money to their advantage, but without knowing what they’re spending on we can’t simply make that assumption.