On June 3, 1973, Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein signaled the end of Richard Nixon’s presidency with a big scoop in the Washington Post. They reported that ex-White House counsel John Dean had “told Senate investigators and federal prosecutors that he discussed aspects of the Watergate cover-up with President Nixon or in Mr. Nixon’s presence on at least 35 occasions” and that he was planning “to testify under oath at the Senate’s Watergate hearings, regardless of whether he is granted full immunity from prosecution.”
I don’t think too many observers realized at the time that the jig was up, but Woodward and Bernstein had the goods.
One of the strongest charges against Mr. Nixon that Dean has made to investigators refers to a meeting Dean said he had with Mr. Nixon shortly before the sentencing of the seven Watergate defendants March 23, Dean said that Mr. Nixon asked him how much the defendants would have to be paid to insure their continued silence, in addition to $460,000 that had already been paid, the sources said.
Dean, the sources reported, maintains that he told Mr. Nixon the additional cost would be about $1 million, and Dean also claims the President replied there would be no problem in paying that amount.
On May 1, 1974, Nixon was compelled to release most of the transcripts of his secret recordings, among which was a tape that confirmed that John Dean was telling the truth about Nixon being willing to pay $1 million in hush money. On May 9, 1974, impeachment hearings began in the House Judiciary Committee.
What people couldn’t really imagine on June 3, 1973 is what the effect would be over having members of Nixon’s inner circle testify against him. Certainly, John Dean’s testimony before Congress captured the nation’s attention and, once their existence was revealed, created an unstoppable momentum for the release of the Nixon tapes. People can be forgiven for not knowing what the future would bring, but we have this precedent now to help imagine our near future.
When Robert Mueller brings his case, however he brings it, that will not be the end of the story. He has built his case by interviewing nearly everyone in Trump’s inner circle, many of whom have become cooperating witnesses and many others of whom have doubtlessly opted to tell the truth rather than risk perjury or obstruction of justice charges. Their information is locked in in FBI transcripts and grand jury testimony, and they can be called before Congress to testify.
When the time comes, the witnesses against Trump won’t be members of the special counsel’s office. The witnesses will be people like former White House counsel Don McGahn and firsthand witnesses like Rick Gates and Michael Flynn.
This will make it a lot more difficult for the White House to discredit the factual case. Now, it has been
reported that the White House really has no plan for how to react to Mueller’s charges, whenever or however they come. The basic thought in the West Wing is that they’ll just follow the president’s lead. For Republicans on the Hill, this isn’t much to work with.
For [Rudy] Giuliani, letting Trump guide the response post-report may not be ideal, but “I don’t think there’s anyone in the world that can stop Donald Trump from tweeting,” he acknowledged. “I’ve tried.”
The dearth of communication about the probe has left the president’s top lieutenants on Capitol Hill anxious about the fallout, according to multiple congressional GOP sources. “We haven’t heard from the White House at all on this. You’d think there’d be more of an effort to have a coordinated response,” one senior Republican aide, who spoke on the condition of anonymity so as not to damage the aide’s relationship with the White House, told me. “Members want to help, but can’t if they’re not getting any information.”
The whole way this is being discussed lacks imagination. The Mueller revelations won’t be rebutted by a clever set of counterpoints that help win a 24-hour news cycle. The revelations will provide the context for hearings and a guide to calling witnesses. The Republicans will be forced to explain why it’s not a serious offense to commit campaign finance violations, to dangle pardons or clemency before witnesses, to encourage people to perjure themselves or otherwise obstruct justice. They’ll watch the president’s lies fall like dominoes based on the say-so not of Fake News reporters and a biased Deep State, but based on the testimony of former right-wing heroes.
And all of that is before we get into the actual meat of the story, which is the degree to which Trump lied about his business ties to Russia and the extent to which his campaign coordinated with the Russians to exploit the hacked emails.
The idea many have is that the Republicans will have little trouble brushing all of this off, but I don’t see that as a sustainable position for them. What brought Nixon down was the testimony of his own people, and that’s what ultimately will bring Trump down, too.
Ollie & Fawn have buckled up their kidney belts – Have you got all the stuffing up one end?
IMO the direction the screen writers will take in this TV drama will be to bring Hope Hicks front and center. She has it all; a sassy name, telegenic looks, a position as confidant, and most important of all…….she brings desperately needed sex angles to off set the repulsiveness of the central character. With a general lack of her media exposure it will be easy for the production to allow the public to impress their own pathologies on her, from jealous infighting between her and the other main female characters, to casting her as an ingenue far out of her depth or as a fem fatale manipulating all around her, to their doom. The production also lacks action, and Ms Hicks can bring tension between various male characters, perhaps even physical confrontations……which would allow for a tie in with current cultural touchstones like the metoo movement.
She’s perfect for the role.
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No.
She’s not.
She’s not blonde.
(Not yet, anyway…)
AG
Sigh In 1973 there was no Fox News. Every person in the country tuned in to watch either David Brinkley or Walter Cronkite tell them what was happening in the world. And those “most trusted men in America” were saying that Nixon’s most trusted advisors were criminals who had fingered him. And they were calling Nixon’s defenders liars and fools. Publicly.
And the Democrats controlled Congress, while Republicans had political leaders who actually cared about public institutions some of the time. They were invested in preserving the existing American polity.
None of that exists in 2018. Republicans don’t care at all whether Trump is guilty or not. It’s not even an issue to them. There is simply no independent notion of objective truth any more. Truth is whatever your tribe tells you to believe. Period.
Today Republicans only watch Fox News and Fox News is simply going to ignore or push back on anything. It’s like expecting Pravda to tell it’s readers to conclude that Brezhnev is a corrupt fool.
Since Republican voters never listen to anybody outside their bubble of lies, no GOP politician has to either. Until they start losing elections, and a lot more of them. Until they are slapped down by the courts in their efforts to subvert democracy like in North Carolina, Michigan and Wisconsin, they will continue.
No reason not to keep going. Democrats have this curious notion that elections matter. Where we are right now is in an undeclared war. As long as Republicans can use force to get away with seizing power they will do it. If lying, and swindling and cheating and using naked force to protect themselves works, they will do it.
No morality or history or “the way things are supposed to work” will stop them. Only naked force.
So, we work on gaining enough naked force to crush them. Part of this is elections, but as we see in MI and WI and NC winning elections isn’t enough.
I don’t know what the next step really is, but expecting any Republicans to force Trump out of office for any reason whatever is simply stupid. IT won’t happen. That won’t stop us, but it does mean that we will probably have to impeach Trump, have the GOP ignore the impeachment and denounce it as a “partisan witch hunt” then shout about it for 2 years, defeat him in the 2020 election despite every dirty trick and swindle they can possibly throw at us.
And then we’ll see. We’ll have a Democratically controlled White House, and majorities in both houses of Congress, but there will be enough GOP Senators to block everything progressives want. SO, there will be no progress unless Democrats are willing to end the Senate filibuster, which none of them are right now.
Give me a little time and maybe I might find a flaw in this somewhere.
Right now, I got nothing……….
You’re wrong because I can’t handle if you’re right. I’m Team Boo on this one.
Well, I certainly hope you are right, but what would make you think that?
Emotional necessity. I’ve got nothing else.
Why? Did you see the party that was poised to win?
Whatever they did, hey, they did for Team Wypipo.
That’s been an affirmative defense for a lot worse. Call ’em all ‘process crimes’, and tough it out.
There. Is. No. Alternative. (Not one that doesn’t involve a whole lot of women and colored people running things…)
I’m guessing it’s even-money to work this time.
Sure, Watergate turned out different.
But then, sometimes the onside kick actually works.
Successful on-side kicks make it onto YouTube. Because they’re rarities.
It’s been reported by multiple outlets for longer than 2 years that Trump has a penchant for calling allies and old friends late at night to ask their opinions. He also, as Bob Woodward reported, likes to ask anyone within earshot what their opinions are during the day.
Any one of that circle could be tapped by Mueller and likely already have been. And then of course there’s Trump’s continuing use of his unsecure cell phone which would certainly allow the Chinese, Russians and every other Intel group or hackers round the world to listen in.
Looking forward to more news that Ecuador is considering extraditing Assange to the US. Oh how sweet to get him to flip…
The Republicans will be forced to explain why it’s not a serious offense to commit campaign finance violations, to dangle pardons or clemency before witnesses, to encourage people to perjure themselves or otherwise obstruct justice
Sure, in the past that would have been absolutely true, but I’m not sure that Republicans give a hoot about how they look anymore. Did Mitch McConnell’s prevarications about why he sat on Obama’s Supreme Court nomination for a year matter to any of them? Did Devin Nunes or Jim Jordan’s baseless grandstanding about the Mueller probe cause any Republicans anxiety? Did Brett Kavanaugh’s unprecedented partisan screed during his confirmation hearings give the Republican base doubts about his nomination? Or even more to the point, are they ashamed about the blatant gerrymandering and then subsequent undemocratic election nullification that is taking place in Wisconsin and Michigan?
Again and again, Republicans are determined to maintain or expand their power, and seemed to be willing to do just about anything to do so, even as the minority party. Each day seems to bring some greater outrage against our democracy that would have been almost unthinkable before.
You would think all of these abuses would start adding up sooner or later within their party, but my take has always been that the end game for these guys isn’t anything close to what we would call democracy, and once your committed to go down that road, no amount of public shaming will stop them. You would think that election losses might matter, but again, see; Wisconsin & Michigan.
Now given that, I agree that the Republicans in congress and the Senate are still politicians interested first in their own survival, so perhaps if Trump gets pegged as a traitor, and not just as the corrupt blow-hard that we all know he is, and their billionaire backers don’t go all in, then maybe.. just maybe… they will cut bait, but only as long as they get Pence or another reliable lackey in Trumps place. And then of course, it’s pardons for everyone, then followed closely with the dumping of their crimes down the memory hole and subsequent appeal for bipartisanship and support for the new administration.