Personally, I think Elijah Cummings should have the former chief of the White House’s Personnel Security Office, Carl Kline, arrested by the House Sargent-at-Arms, imprisoned in the Capitol Building, and held over for trial for contempt of Congress. It’s time to stop fucking around and play hardball with these non-complying Trump administration officials who want to defy subpoenas. I spent April 23rd researching how this could be done and I wrote about it on the 24th. On the 25th, Axios took notice (without crediting me, of course), and now everyone is talking about Congress using its inherent contempt power.
It turns out that my idea wasn’t as outlandish as I thought because House Judiciary Committee chairman Jerry Nadler was apparently discussing it privately in early April. Maybe my piece raised awareness on the right that this was a real possibility, because the ranking member on Elijah Cummings’ committee, Jim Jordan of Ohio, seems to have reacted.
Rep. Jim Jordan, the top Republican on the House Oversight Committee, is seeking to resolve a tense dispute between Democrats and the White House as part of the panel’s review of the Trump administration’s security clearance process.
In a letter obtained by CNN and dated Friday, Jordan is asking White House counsel Pat Cipollone to allow former official Carl Kline to sit down for a voluntary transcribed interview to avoid a growing constitutional clash between the two branches of government. The move comes after the White House instructed Kline, who now works at the Defense Department, to defy a subpoena because Oversight Chairman Elijah Cummings would not allow a White House attorney to attend Kline’s deposition, citing committee rules.
Cummings is now threatening to hold Kline in contempt, which Jordan says in his letter could happen as soon as Tuesday.
“To avoid unnecessary conflict between Congress and the Executive Branch and to de-escalate Chairman Cummings’ orchestrated interbranch confrontation, I write to ask whether Mr. Kline would agree to appear for a voluntary transcribed interview with committee staff,” Jordan wrote, offering next Tuesday or Wednesday as options.
Holding Mr. Kline in contempt is not an option. Assuming the White House doesn’t relent on their ridiculous conditions and Kline doesn’t unilaterally decide to comply, he will be in contempt of Congress. The only question remaining then is what to do about it. Should Cummings ask Attorney General William Barr to enforce his subpoena? Should he file a civil suit against Mr. Kline and fight it all the way up to the conservative Supreme Court in the hope that they will compel Kline’s testimony? Those options are wastes of times in more ways than one.
The only viable option is to arrest Kline on the House’s own authority and have a trial in the House of Representatives. They are allowed to imprison him until the end of this session of Congress. They should begin that process immediately, and when the White House and Mr. Kline realize that they’re serious, maybe some compliance will be forthcoming. They sure as hell isn’t going to be any compliance in the absence of that kind of aggressive move.
Rep. Jordan’s letter is a small indicator that the message is beginning to get through that the Democrats are considering going nuclear. If I can take some small credit for getting this ball moving, I’m glad to played my small part.
The Democrats aren’t dealing with the kind of political opponents who play by the ordinary rules. Either they bring the hammer down on them, or they will be on the receiving end of the hammer.
I would love to see the Sargent at arms put Kline in irons. Dems need to use every legal tool at their command to bring to heel this Republican lawlessness and their contempt for the constitution.
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I would love to see it too, and I do agree that it is (logically) the best solution. I just need somebody to explain to me how exactly, in physical terms, it would be done. Does the sergeant-at-arms have an enforcement team and a cell handy?
I would too, but if the House sends out people to apprehend Kline by force, there’s a really good chance they will be met by people sent by Trump to use force to stop them. Not necessarily an argument against doing it, but it should get everyone thinking about how deep the shit is getting.
Well, this would be a question for Martin, perhaps: just what sort of a police force, if any, does Congress have to serve contempt citations and subpoenas? And the Executive branch has all the police worth having, against whom the Capitol police force might not look so good. So: armed standoff at the White House gate? Oddly enough, that might make for compelling TV, and the more I think about it from that standpoint the better I like it. I believe that at some point soon, Democrats are going to have to make sure they are SEEN as fighters, so forceful action outside of the congressional comfort zone might constitute a win. (But, no. The situation we’re in is awful, just awful.)
Bring. The. Hammer. Down.
There can be no oversight if people know they can ignore subpoenas.
Now is not the time for niceties.
Convene your committee at the appointed hour, and when the witness fails to show up, issue an arrest warrant. That is what would happen to me if I failed to honor a subpoena.
Lock him up and leave the lights out for a few weeks.
I’d be SHOCKED if the Democrats have the balls to play hardball. Hope I’m wrong. Doubt that I am.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/prime-beta/sorry-house-dems-theres-no-capitol-jail-for-you-to-detain-defiant-witnesses
Might not have an option to do this after all.
Au contraire, I happen to know of a couple of relatively secure facilities somewhat south of the Capitol….of course the cages are sized for children, so Mr. Kline might have to crouch a bit…most of the time. But it feels like the right solution somehow.
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