How Far Will the Republicans Go Before They Defy Trump?

There has to be some line beyond which the GOP will not go in their blind obedience to the President.

History has taught us that there is more than one way to kill a few million people. Deliberate famine worked pretty well for Joe Stalin, for example. There’s even a term for this (“Holodomor”) which is a compound of the Ukrainian words holod “hunger” and mor “plague”.

Apparently, historians still debate whether Stalin’s Great Famine of 1932 and 1933 meets the technical definition of genocide. I guess it’s hard to parse between benign and malicious neglect. When does maladministration cross over into a maniacal desire to eradicate a whole people? Who is qualified to say?

We’re at risk now of suffering a “Trumpomor.” This is almost solely because the Republican-controlled U.S. Senate neglected to remove President Trump when they were given good cause. Since he is still in power, he’s in a position to cause a million or more excess deaths in this country and more than that on a global scale. He might do it for no better reason than so he can have people visit his resorts and golf courses before his whole real estate empire goes broke.

He might be less inclined to do this if the Republicans in Congress had forced him to divest from his business interests rather than tripping over each other to patronize them. So, as you can see, I’m building a decent case that congressional Republicans are giving us a Holodomor.

I wonder, however, if Trump is acting in such a reckless manner that the Republicans may be forced to remove him after all.

President Donald Trump has never been known for his patience or long attention span.

Now, as the coronavirus crisis threatens his presidency, and upends his campaign for reelection, Trump is rapidly losing patience with the medical professionals who have made the case day after day that the only way to prevent a catastrophic loss of life is to essentially shut down the country — to minimize transmission and “flatten the curve” so hospitals aren’t overwhelmed with critical patients.

The president also has been furious that his efforts to halt the harrowing drop in the stock market have so far proven ineffective. He has been calling friends and economists at all hours and berated aides and reporters who try to persuade him to recognize the severity of the outbreak.

The man is berating people who try to persuade him to recognize the severity of the coronavirus outbreak. He is inclined to do whatever he can to get people back to work, back on the subways, back on airplanes, back in our public parks, and (above all) back in his hotels. This has the potential to cause two million excess American deaths. When people tell him this, he yells at and insults them.

Congress doesn’t have the luxury of ignoring this. There are members of Congress who are severely ill with COVID-19, and many others who are currently self-quarantining and unable to vote. They’re also responsible for their constituents’ health, and most of them are not outright insane. They know that the best policy is to follow expert scientific advice, and the best politics is to let others take responsibility for any negative economic consequences that result. Taking actions that will lead to a couple of million excess deaths isn’t going to be good for them on any level, especially because it won’t improve the economy.

There may come a point soon when Trump openly defies his health advisors and causes many of them to resign. That will be the point when members of Trump’s cabinet will have to decide whether or not to invoke the 25th Amendment. The prospect of having a couple million deaths on your conscience can change people’s ordinary calculation of what it means for a president to be unfit for office.

If the 25th Amendment ever is invoked, this is how it will look:

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Mike Pence would become president, at least temporarily, and considering that he’s listening to health experts every day, that would be a good thing. But it would be up to Congress to decide if Pence remained in charge.

Thereafter, when the President [Trump] transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

A lot of people have been fantasizing about this result for a few years now, but we’re in a different world now.

The president has snapped at aides delivering news that contradicts his relentless belief the crisis will be resolved soon.

Upon his return from a trip to India last month, Trump lit into aides about Dr. Nancy Messonnier, the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, who had provided a dire warning about the virus’ potential impact. He chided Vice President Mike Pence in a West Wing meeting for defending Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, a one-time Democratic presidential contender, for his handling of the crisis. And he angrily upbraided medical providers who called on his administration to do more, saying they should be upset instead with their local leadership.

If Trump tries to end the containment policy, he will face resistance.

There is dissent within the Republican Party, however, including from some close allies of the president.
“It would be a major mistake to suggest any change of course when it comes to containment,” Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.) said in an interview. “I just spoke with Dr. [Anthony] Fauci — he believes that, if anything, we should be more aggressive and do more. . . . You can’t have a functioning economy if you have hospitals overflowing.”

There has to be some line beyond which the Republicans will not go in their blind obedience to Trump. This crisis seems perfectly designed to discover exactly where that line is.

Author: BooMan

Martin Longman a contributing editor at the Washington Monthly. He is also the founder of Booman Tribune and Progress Pond. He has a degree in philosophy from Western Michigan University.

16 thoughts on “How Far Will the Republicans Go Before They Defy Trump?”

  1. There has to be some line beyond which the Republicans will not go in their blind obedience to Trump. This crisis seems perfectly designed to discover exactly where that line is.

    There is a line. That line is when Donald Trump is dead and in the ground. As long as he is breathing, even if he is not President, he will be directing the Republican Party, as far into the future as he wishes. He will be to future GOP members what Saint Ronnie was supposed to be to Boomers in the GOP, who came of politcal age in the 1980’s. Trump will be the standard by which all future prospective GOP officeholders will be measured. You will have to demonstrate your evil, much in the way one can only be a “made member” in a gang or the Mafia by taking a life with your own hand. The only way that this does not happen is if someone even more odious and evil follows him. In that case, the base and elected Republican members will follow Evil 2.0, without question. The scariest thing is that Evil 2.0 is probably alive today and working their way through the ranks.

  2. Trump would have to override the the state governors as they would defy him. Maybe he can, or maybe he can put pressure on them.

    But cities and counties are also imposing shutdowns. Is Trump going to play whack-a -mole with them too?

    1. I just finishing watching Ohio Governor Mike Dewine give his daily briefing, and do his best to not contradict Trump, while at the same time pointing out that the science does not support such a “return to normal” in a couple of weeks. We are soon going to be living in a situation where some of us live in states who are following the science, and staying shut down, while states right next door have their people driving all in and around us to do their daily business, whether it be shopping or vacationing or whatever the hell it is they want to do, and spreading death in their wake.

      If we aren’t at peak distress before Easter, which might stand a chance of derailing Trumps wet dream of a freshly loosed, booming economy, it is literally going to be every man/woman/child for themselves, as people from newly freed Trumpland mingle among all of us who are trying to keep ourselves, our older parents, and our grandparents, alive.
      These fucking people are soulless and pure evil.

  3. Just wondering: Which Cabinet officers would make up the majority of the Cabinet necessary to co-sign Pence’s letter to Congress stating that Trump is incapable of discharging the duties of office?

  4. As far as he does. These people do not inhabit the same reality that we do. Remember, according to right wing media the coronavirus is a myth perpetrated by Democrats to damage reelection prospects. These people have spent the past 5 years brown-nosing. Sniffing a little more won’t bother them. The howls from their media bother them more. And their media is bat guano mine levels of crazy.

    They don’t care if this country burns down as long as they can rule the ashes. It’s worked out fine for Putin and his cabal.

    1. And we are about to find out which reality is real. Four weeks, I would say. But stuff is moving so darn fast now, it’s hard to say.

  5. The 25th amendment will not be invoked. Dismiss it from your wildest dreams….unless the SOB is unresponsive in a coma. Then, maybe. But don’t count on it even then. The Republican Party is with him until the bitter end. Period.

  6. I’m not convince Pence is sane enough to take over and do better than Trump. Yesterday he was talking about sending Covid-19 survivors back to work much faster than health care professionals recommend with face masks. He also made some comment about not allowing medical doctors run the economy. There may be sane Republicans not willing to follow Trump into the ditch. Good luck finding them.

    All of this makes sense. They’re totally between a rock and a hard place. One of their own creation but now they’re stuck. Their base are the Trump faithful. Abandon him at your peril.

  7. If the science is right the next 2 weeks are not going to be good. The numbers of infected will explode. The hospitals will fill up and the shortage of medical equipment will impact the red states. At this point we’ll see if they can hang with the donald. Watch TX and FL. Both are reporting numbers that just don’t seem right.

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