A Tale of Two Town Halls

Both Biden and Trump said things that weren’t true at times, but only Trump does it an integral part of his campaign.

On Thursday, Joe Biden participated in a CNN town hall near his hometown of Scranton, Pennsylvania. It was similar to the one President Trump held on Tuesday in Philadelphia. It’s not hard to understand why they both chose the Keystone State. According to the analysts at FiveThirtyEight, Biden has 96 percent chance of winning the election if he carries Pennsylvania, which compares to an 84 percent chance for the president.

The reviews of Biden’s performance have so far been vastly less critical than the near-total condemnation that greeted Trump’s erratic performance. One of the main critiques of Trump’s town hall was that he delivered a “a firehose of lying,” as CNN fact checker Daniel Dale put it.

 

Washington Post fact-checker Glenn Kessler said Trump made “four Pinocchio” statements “over and over again.” But Kessler also found fault with some of Biden’s material.

Some examples include falsely saying that Trump held the Bible upside down during his photo-op after the clearing of demonstrators in Lafayette Park, and implausibly arguing that Trump could have prevented any American COVID-19 deaths if he had only done his job. At one point, Biden incorrectly attributed a University of Washington estimate on how many lives can be saved by wearing masks to Centers of Disease Control director Dr. Robert Redfield. He was also sloppy when he expressed incredulity that some people in the media make a big deal out of him not having an Ivy League degree. No one has suggested that he’d be the first president who didn’t attend an Ivy–in fact, Ronald Reagan graduated from Eureka College in Illinois.

But one thing to note about Biden’s misstatements is that they weren’t exactly crowdpleasers. Democrats tend to cringe when their candidate wastes a good attack line by overstating the case, and they actually care when statistics are misattributed or mistakes are made in describing recent events. Biden will mostly likely clean these things up rather than make them a staple of his campaign.

Trump’s inaccuracies were more familiar and completely different in nature. He lied for the umpteenth time about the Obama administration not bequeathing him an adequate supply of ventilators. He lied about when we can expect a vaccine, and he will continue to make this a key part of his pitch for reelection. He lied about how America compares to other nations with respect to the pandemic, and he once again said nonsensically that we’d have fewer cases if we did fewer tests. Whether he was falsely accusing Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden of criticizing his (belated and incomplete) travel ban of Chinese travel or he was disputing that he had downplayed the threat of the virus, Trump’s lies were part of a routine. His audience enjoys it when calls COVID-19 the “Kung-Flu” or the “China virus.” They get a big kick out of attacks on Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi. Trump tells these lies to entertain his base, and he tries to evade responsibility at every turn. That’s why no amount of fact-checking will deter him and he will repeat these same lies for as long as the campaign lasts.

By contrast, Joe Biden will not continue to say Trump was holding the Bible upside down, and he’ll correct his citation about the lives that can saved through wearing masks. He’ll probably continue to talk about his lack of an Ivy League degree, but he’ll be careful not to say he’d be the first president without one. He’ll do these things in part because he’s not a fundamentally dishonest person, but also because Democrats don’t enjoy or reward dishonesty.

Author: BooMan

Martin Longman a contributing editor at the Washington Monthly. He is also the founder of Booman Tribune and Progress Pond. He has a degree in philosophy from Western Michigan University.

10 thoughts on “A Tale of Two Town Halls”

  1. The conclusion to your piece infers the conclusion that Republicans DO “…enjoy or reward dishonesty.”

    It’s hard to deny that conclusion. It’s a conclusion that has so very much evidence to support it that I declare it as a fact.

    That’s a remarkable fact. An entire political Party and Movement has become thoroughly morally poisoned. Their Movement rots from the head, and we should take note that their Presidential nominees Romney and McCain and Bush also lied aggressively and shamelessly. Mitt lied even more than the others, and Trump has lied much more than Romney. It’s been a massive escalation of their despicable will to power.

  2. I did manage to catch the whole town hall last night. Mostly it went fine, although he should probably work on not getting sidetracked in his answers which happened a few times. Doesn’t come across as very polished, and we just need him to be solid without rambling too many times. For the most part he was, but still a few parts where he could easily improve. But one thing that comes across is his empathy and concern for common people. I don’t think the debates will matter at all (and really, they shouldn’t), but I do hope that Biden gets a bit more practice in at honing in quick 30 second pitches. Trump’s lies will not affect people because people who are undecided only want to hear what Biden proposes, they already don’t like Trump (recent polling has shown this)

  3. Reading Kessler’s ‘fact checks’ makes me appreciate the usefulness of the Catholic Church’s distinction between ‘mortal’ and ‘venial’ sins. I almost laughed out loud at how hard Kessler had to work to critique the Pinocchio in Biden’s statements. SMH.

  4. Trump does indeed lie with a fire hose. It is hard to listen to him. In fact I can only do it in short doses. How in heavens name can people vote for this man? As time goes on he attracts other strange people to his side, one of the latest being Dr Atlas, a Dr Strangelove sort of guy. His entire entourage is out of horror films casting. And yet, over 60 million will likely vote for this fool.

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