While rumors are the theme of the week, here’s a hefty slice from the Beltway Insider Pie that comes to us via an e-mail from a Democratic House member’s staffer to Jan Frel at AlterNet.
Four items, viz.:
- Fred Flights, an assistant to John Bolton, is a named name who could be indicted.
- Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham have been suggested as replacements for Dick Cheney.
- Colin Powell told John McCain he showed the infamous memo with Plame’s identity on it two just two people; Dick Cheney and George Bush.
- Fitzgerald is looking at the precedent set from the indictment of Tricky Dick’s veep Spiro Agnew to pursue against Cheney.
Note, the e-mailing staffer eschews CAPS, a quirk that I’ve preserved.
Further disclaimer as to sourcing:
. . .the sources include two senior members of senate and key staffers; counsel for individuals that have been called before the grand jury; and two journalists taking a lead position in investigating the case. . . represent[ing] a composite of the information from those sources.
Details bullet item 1
. . .we are told that eight indictments have already prepared, with the possibility of another ten. these indictments include senior white house staff, most notably vice president cheney’s chief of staff scooter libby, fred flights (special assistant to john bolton), and–very surprisingly–national security adviser steve hadley.
Details bullet item 3
powell recounted to the senator that he had traveled on air force one with bush and cheney, and brought to their attention a classified memorandum about the issue of whether there was indeed a transaction inolving niger and yellow cake uranium. the document included ambassador joe wilson’s involvement and identified his wife, valerie plame, as a covert agent. the memorandum further stated that this information was secret. powell told mccain that he showed that memo only to two people–president and vice president. according to powell, cheney fixated on the wilson/plame connection, and plame’s status.
further. . .
powell testified about this exchange in great length to the grand jury investigating the plame case. according to sources close to the case, powell appeared convinced that the vice president played a focal role in disclosing plame’s undercover status.
Concluding details:
one interesting point though–it is worth noting that a parade of senior republican senators have evidently been privately pushing mccain to lobby to be cheney’s replacement. senator lindsey graham (R-SC) has also been mentioned. meanwhile, the white house has already been developing countermeasures–notably including senior white house officials privately voicing president bush’s disappointment in karl rove’s involvement in the case, calling it “misconduct.” an urgent search for a rove replacement is already underway.
Gossip just doesn’t get any juicier. Have at it.
It has been pointed out to me at DailyKos that Bush and Cheney do not both simultaneously travel on Air Force One.
As you can see from the source, no mention is made of timing of their travel and Powell’s alleged flashing of the memo, and the point does seem to throw cold water on this bullet detail.
The water might yet be warm?
Powell did travel with the President on his trip to Africa, from July 7-12, 2003. So he could have shared the memo with Bush, but could also have shared it with Cheney by means other than physically handing it over. That seems a completely plausible scenario to me, given secure technologies certain to be aboard Air Force One.
Isn’t it plausible Powell showed the memo to Bush and Bush then ordered Powell to show it to Cheney?
And doesn’t this also indicate that it could have been Bush who told Rove about Valerie Plame?
I’m reveling!
This is so all encompasingly beautiful, so heady, so far above superlative that I imagine LSD couldn’t come close to this feeling.
Ahem. (Resume teacher pose)
Thank you for sharing. Class?
Best question I have heard in a loong time!
Oh my! This is the best rumor yet. . .I so hope it is true. Or even part of it is true.
Thanks for a lovely encouragement of daydreams.
If Powell has in fact skewered Cheney, is GW far behind?? (Or am I getting WAY AHEAD of myself?)
we must dream big
we must dream big
we must dream big
we must dream big
we must dream big
If this is true, I just may summon up some of my old respect for Powell. I have always hoped he would do the right thing and come forward with the goods on these liars.
Let’s hope so, but I think time is running out for him…
I did a brief entry last night.
It was really good ask. I read at at o’dark-thirty and recommended but was too tired to comment.
Good question, outside of typo or mental slip, I have no answer. A case of knowing the person and/or the name, but never having seen it written?
I am especially sympathetic to such errors as I am a dyslexic typer myself and must proof everything constantly, and it’s still not enough to catch all my mistakes.
Another clue may be in the lackadasical manner of the typist who can’t be bothered w/ CAPS. Likewise, can’t be bothered w/ proofing.
interesting that there’s another typo involving “fl”…flame/plame/plane/flight/air force one…. don’t you see? we’re being directed to a flight school in FLorida…
its all coming together.
on a more serious note…
may bush, cheney, and the rest of them rot in hell
Here’s a link to Steve Clemon’s New America Foundation site and their video of the Wilkerson remarks, (about 1 1/2 hours long).
It’s quite compelling.
Fricken fracken fruck! I have stayed out of this and just read read read. Limelite has to bring up Powell though and now he has told McCain he only showed it to two people…..nibble, nibble, bite, snagged…..just go ahead and reel me in, SHIT! Don’t know what to say. I always perceived Powell as a decent sort of person and then he said all that BULLSHIT at the U.N. I entertain fantasies that he was duped, pffft………huh? Would he lie, could he lie this badly, would he lie this badly, is the rumor an honest rumor. Powell wouldn’t lie to McCain would he? Powell wouldn’t lie to a grandjury would he? Go ahead, just keep reeling. I hear the frying pan sizzling in the distance.
of cold water, who must continue to emphasize the rumor risk in all this, there’s no way of knowing IF Powell actually did what’s alleged, much less lied when he “did” it.
But we can hope he’s a moderately truthful man, and that this rumor has a modicum of truth in it, enough so that Powell informed the Prez. Then it could hardly not come to the attention of the Veep.
Let’s not forget the hearty mutual distaste Cheney and Powell have for one another.
I think you will find the the spelling is actually “Fred Fleitz”, not “Fred Flights”.
For those who say that The VP and POTUS do not fly on the same plane at the same time, the statement is, “Colin Powell told John McCain he showed the infamous memo with Plame’s identity on it two just two people; Dick Cheney and George Bush.”
Nothing in that says that Powell is saying that he showed it to either one ON Air Force One.
Therefore the two statements may be compatible. Powell could have shown it to one or the other before or after he got onto Air Force One. We know that Bush was on the plane. I have heard of no accounts that Cheney was on the plane. Bush may have seen it before, during or after the flight. Nothing about his statement is incompatible with the fact that they don’t both fly together.
Obviously, someone carried the memo onto the plane. If it was Powell himself, by definition he had it before he got on. So, the question becomes, “When did he take possession of it?”
If the claim is correct that Powell showed it to both them and ONLY them, one or both have some esplainin’ to do. Obviously.
If so many of Bush’s appointees are criminals what does that say about the President? No one mentions his name simply because he didn’t have any DIRECT connection, whatever that means, to this scandal.
Wrong about Iraq, wrong about Rove’s integrity, wrong about Cheney as a stand up guy, Wrong about Rummy, wrong about WMD, Wrong about the ease of the war. If every instinct this man has is wrong I do not think it is the best idea for this man to have control of the world’s largest and most powerful military.
If George Bush decides to resign I won’t think any less of him nor will I “rub it in his face”