After Saddam Hussein’s invasion of Iran stalled after a few months, Iraq spent the remainder of the long war on the defensive. In one of Iraq’s direr moments, Sunni Arab nations in the Gulf became alarmed enough at the prospect of Persian conquest of Iraq that they agreed to loan Saddam money for the fight. The same consideration led the United States to lend a hand by providing satellite intelligence and agreeing to look the other way on Iraq’s use of chemical weapons on the battlefield.
There were real and ostensible reasons that Saddam Hussein chose to invade Kuwait in 1990. There had always been some dispute about whether Kuwait properly belonged to Iraq. There were credible claims that Kuwait was drilling diagonally for oil under the undisputed sovereign territory of Iraq. But the main reason may have been that Saddam wanted debt relief from Kuwait considering that his country had suffered the burden of beating back Iranian incursions into his country. Kuwait adopted an uncompromising position on the repayment of loans, and that gave Saddam a real incentive to annex them.
Once Saddam annexed Kuwait, the world had to decide whether or not to accept it as a fait accompli. Since Kuwait was a member of the United Nations in good standing, it would set a very bad precedent to do nothing while they were wiped off the map. There were more pragmatic considerations, too. After all the investment in armaments during the Iran-Iraq War, Iraq emerged from the stalemate with one of the largest armies in the world. With all the money they’d get from owning Kuwait’s oil fields, they could reconstitute themselves quickly and possibly threaten their neighbors, including American ally Saudi Arabia.
This history doesn’t overlay perfectly with Russia’s decision to invade Ukraine and annex Crimea, but there are enough similarities that we can understand why just “letting it go” was an unattractive proposition. In the end, had Kuwait been abandoned, we would have avoided decades of (what today is) known disaster in exchange for different problems that we can only speculate about now. Would Iraq have succeeded in building a nuclear weapon? Would they have gone to war with the House of Saud? Would there have been a second Iran-Iraq War? Would other territories have been annexed by other countries?
We’ll never know the answers to these questions. All we know is that liberating Kuwait came at a staggering cost when we consider what subsequently happened in Iraq and in the region.
Likewise, it’s hard to say what should be done about Russia’s annexation of Crimea and other violations of Ukraine’s sovereignty. Every option has the potential to create worse problems than it solves. However, the economic sanctions that were put on Russia have been a middle road between escalating the conflict and doing nothing. Russia has definitely paid a heavy price and they’re desperate to see the sanctions lifted. Their clear investment in Donald Trump is transparently part of that strategy. In fact, in retrospect, it’s easy to see Putin’s strategy for beating Clinton and why he chose to host both Green Party candidate Jill Stein and the former head of our Defense Intelligence Agency and eventual Trump National Security Adviser Michael Flynn (circled below) at the gala celebrating the ten-year anniversary of RT, a CNN-like propaganda organ of the Russian state.
Stein spent her time in Moscow criticizing America at every turn and saying nothing about Russia’s annexation of Crimea, their state-sponsored assassinations, their treatment of the LGBT community or any other matter of concern.
Michael Flynn led a standing ovation for Putin.
While the current focus is on what Michael Flynn may have promised Russia in the way of sanctions relief, it’s important to realize that the sanctions are in place as a way to honor the sovereignty of all United Nations members. Collective security requires that countries feel secure and that they have recourse if they are invaded or parts of their territory are annexed.
This is admittedly problematic when the country doing the annexing is a nuclear-armed permanent member of the UN Security Council. In fact, as we’ve seen, it’s extraordinary problematic even when the annexing country is a smaller, less formidable power like Iraq.
What should be clear though is that, for purposes of deterrence alone, we cannot allow countries to go around annexing territory, and that there’s a price to be paid if we do nothing about it.
It may not be realistic to put Crimea back under Ukraine’s control, but there must be some kind of settlement of outstanding issues and assurances of Ukrainian sovereignty before any serious discussion of lifting sanctions on Russia can proceed.
But this is precisely what Trump and Flynn seem to be avoiding by talking about lifting sanctions in return for nothing or in exchange for unrelated concessions on nuclear arms.
U.S. President-elect Donald Trump will propose offering to end sanctions imposed on Russia over its annexation of Crimea in return for a nuclear arms reduction deal with Moscow, he told The Times of London…
…”They have sanctions on Russia — let’s see if we can make some good deals with Russia,” the Republican president-elect was quoted as saying by The Times.
“For one thing, I think nuclear weapons should be way down and reduced very substantially, that’s part of it. But Russia’s hurting very badly right now because of sanctions, but I think something can happen that a lot of people are gonna benefit.”
This lax attitude about Ukraine was evident throughout Trump’s campaign, and nowhere more obvious than when they interceded to soften the Republican platform on the issue.
The Trump campaign worked behind the scenes last week to make sure the new Republican platform won’t call for giving weapons to Ukraine to fight Russian and rebel forces, contradicting the view of almost all Republican foreign policy leaders in Washington.
The current brouhaha about Michael Flynn concerns an additional set of unilateral sanctions that President Obama placed on Russia on December 29th in retaliation for interference in our presidential election. The same day, Flynn called the Russian ambassador and discussed Obama’s move. Reportedly, he asked Russia not to overreact and offered the promise of improved relations once Trump was inaugurated.
It goes without saying that anyone who has ever served as the head of our Defense Intelligence Agency should not be going to Moscow to fete Vladimir Putin and lead a standing ovation in his honor. This man is now heading our National Security Council, which is why a senior Defense Intelligence officer was recently quoted saying that “since January 20, we’ve assumed that the Kremlin has ears inside the SITROOM [Situation Room],” and “There’s not much the Russians don’t know at this point.”
It appears that Flynn’s job is in jeopardy, but mainly because his conversations with the Russian ambassador were intercepted and show that he lied about what they discussed. Yet, even if Flynn is fired, the problem will remain because Flynn is not the only connection between Trump and Putin. The new Secretary of State has the unique distinction of having been recognized with Russia’s Order of Friendship award. We can’t forget that Trump had to sack his campaign manager Paul Manafort because of his ties to Russia or the whole Carter Page saga that briefly caused controversy last fall.
And then there’s that British dossier that purported to demonstrate coordination between Trump’s campaign and the Russians’ hacking efforts. It is gaining credibility in the Intelligence and law enforcement communities as some of its falsifiable elements have instead been confirmed.
At this point, even former national security officials, like George W. Bush’s Homeland Security & Counterterrorism Advisor Fran Townsend, are raising the alarm:
Important read by @20committee about dangerous internal insurrection: The Spy Revolt Against @POTUS @realDonaldTrump https://t.co/EfFyEmxDPQ
— Frances Townsend (@FranTownsend) February 12, 2017
Because the Intelligence Community thinks that Trump’s administration is not independent of the Kremlin, they are reportedly withholding intelligence from our new president.
…out of worries about the White House’s ability to keep secrets [from the Russians], some of our spy agencies have begun withholding intelligence from the Oval Office. Why risk your most sensitive information if the president may ignore it anyway? A senior National Security Agency official explained that NSA was systematically holding back some of the “good stuff” from the White House, in an unprecedented move. For decades, NSA has prepared special reports for the president’s eyes only, containing enormously sensitive intelligence. In the last three weeks, however, NSA has ceased doing this, fearing Trump and his staff cannot keep their best SIGINT secrets.
I wish I were making this stuff up, but I’m not. No one seems to know quite what explains it. Fear that people will find out that Trump once hired Russian prostitutes to pee on each other on the mattress that Barack and Michelle once slept on doesn’t seem like an adequate explanation.
And, in any case, it doesn’t really matter so much what the explanation is as it matters that our Intelligence Community does not and will not trust the administration.
On Friday, one of Flynn’s closest deputies on the NSC, senior director for Africa Robin Townley, was informed that the Central Intelligence Agency had rejected his request for an elite security clearance required for service on the NSC…
…One of the sources said the rejection was approved by Mike Pompeo, President Donald Trump’s CIA director, and that it infuriated Flynn and his allies.
Like I’ve been saying, I just don’t see how this administration has any shelf-life. Can they really tame their critics and get beyond this?
I’ve said this before. As soon as these clowns got the keys to the kingdom a number of high level Russian cyber-espionage actors were rounded up and charged with treason for acting as US informants.
That explains it. That’s when things went from unpalatable to unacceptable for the IC. They believe for obvious reasons that they’re dealing with actual, literal Russian agents in the administration, most obviously Flynn but possibly including Trump himself.
I’m saying not Flynn, because he’s such an idiot. Paul Manafort still lives in Trump Tower, where there may still be a secure server for communications with Russia (unlike the government-tapped phone line Flynn uses to chat with Sergey Kislyak).
Enough of an idiot to reassure his handler that Trump would roll back the sanctions punishing them for helping him get elected on an unsecured, monitored line. Stupid / treasonous is not necessarily either / or.
But you’re right, there are plenty of other possible agents in Trumper’s orbit.
Certain he’s treason-capable, just don’t think a trained Russian would be willing to employ him. I think in the December 29 calls he was acting as Trump’s agent, making them an offer in return for a favor of some kind (whatever it is being whatever was signaled by Putin’s magnanimity in not chucking out 35 diplomats the next day).
Nonsense. The answer is ‘Rejoice in their liberation! And pray that the Ukranian people find gratitude in their hearts.’
I mean, read the comments here…
If Victoria Nuland hadn’t mind controlled the Ukrainian people into betraying their benevolent masters Putin wouldn’t have been forced to correct them. For their own good, of course. So really when you get down to it, it’s all Hillary Clinton’s fault.
Hey, you forgot Soros..
I thought the only reliable news sources were RT and Glenn Greenwald. Am I missing something?
нет правды в истории не правда в Известиях
A remarkable detail I just learned about from a Twitter acquaintance, T.R. Ramachandran: Michael Flynn’s book, Field of Fight: How we Can Win the Global Battle Against Radical Islam and its Allies, published in July 2016, treats Russia as one of the allies of radical Islam: “The two most active and powerful members of the enemy alliance are Russia and Iran.” A view diametrically different from the one he presented at the RT dinner in December 2015 and continues to express. The book is cowritten and I imagine basically ghosted by wingnut Michael Ledeen, but it presumably represented Flynn’s views at the time the publisher put it to bed, and that can’t have been too long before the RT dinner, so Flynn’s turnaround in favor of Russia happened really fast, and definitely after Clapper and Vickers fired him in April 2014.
One of his main activities after the firing was showing up as a talking head on cable channels to attack Obama, including of course RT. The obvious implication is that RT people literally “turned” him (not into an active agent, obviously, he’s too incompetent to have a job with SRV, but a propagandist).
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Something along similar lines over at DK (I hesitate to say Great Orange Satan anymore given that we have a Great Orange Satan occupying the White House). I may be skeptical about something in the Observer, but I can certainly view it as plausible that a President and inner circle who are so loose with security protocols would not be trusted by the intelligence community with sensitive materials. Even Dana Scully (not misspelled this time!!!) could be persuaded that Mulder might be on to something once the data look supportive.
The debate over anything related to Russia is so confused, and the politics so strangely distorted by admiration on the right and left for Putin that it is hard to think sensibly.
Russia voluntarily dismembered itself with the fall of the Soviet Union. The Ukraine has never existed as an independent entity very long, and there were large areas populated by Russians.
One can, if one likes, draw parallels to Hitler who based his liberation of Czechoslovakia on the treatment of ethnic Germans. One can argue, as some on the left seem to want to do, that NATO was the aggressor when it expanded in the days after the Cold War. This strikes me as a very odd argument – essentially it means that countries with very good reasons to fear Russia should not be allowed to build alliances – but virtually everything about modern Russia is odd.
Alternatively one can cast Putin as Hitler and argue that keeping collective security intact requires extreme sanctions. Or one can argue that this is simply another example of Western Imperialism.
Flynn’s contact with the Russians doesn’t strike me as very important. And good God can we stop pretending the Logan Act hasn’t been honored more in the breach than in the observance. Or that it will EVER survive a constitutional challenge.
It is of course entirely possible that my view of all these events lacks the proper revolutionary zeal, or perhaps put differently I do not hear Gideon warming up on his trumpet. But I must confess when I read a good number of liberal pundits I find difficulty in distinguishing their hysteria from that of an old time southern baptist when he really gets going.
Bad things are coming and they are very real. These fever dreams distract, they do not provide guidance for the fight ahead.
Border disputes have a common theme:
They have a dispute about borders.
Revanchism and/or Irredentism are common themes you see from nations looking to expand their territory and violate existing national borders.
that NATO was the aggressor when it expanded in the days after the Cold War.
The agreement was that NATO wouldn’t expand. Arguing that the “left is wrong” is factually incorrect.
I would love to hear that explanation given to any member of the former Eastern Bloc.
They have their Visgrad Group.
Good enough to become members of the Coalition of the Willing, but would have kept them out of all those cool NATO operations.
But why should any country buy its own military hardware when the USG offers it for free. If one buys the NRA position — guns = safety — then one would naturally endorse the expansion of NATO. I don’t align myself with the position.
The members of the Visgrad group co no more expect to maintain a credible deterrent against Russia than Mexico could from the US.
Essentially you are arguing for the Russian domination of these countries.
Hey, as long as it isn’t the evil imperialist neocon “USians” it’s no problem, doncha know?
talking about this “agreement” as though it was a ratified and binding treaty is also factually incorrect.
Whatever the real deal was wrt removing US missiles in Turkey, our word on that was good. And the world was probably better off for it.
With the restrictions and conditions agreed to in the two-plus-four treaty, it’s not likely that anyone considered the need for an agreement on NATO expansion. After all, once the USSR ceased to exist, the reason for the existence of NATO ceased as well.
Is Gorbachev the liar: In 1996, Gorbachev wrote in his Memoirs, that “during the negotiations on the unification of Germany they gave assurances that NATO would not extend its zone of operation to the east,” And Zoellick the truthteller? I wouldn’t take Zoellick’s word on anything.
btw Matlock agrees with Gorbachev’s interpretation and memory.
Jack Matlock is on the record as saying that there was no such agreement, in line with what Gorbachev said in 2014 (see my comment below):
Nobody bothered to ask the people of Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, each of which was invaded by the Soviet Union.
Why is that OK? Why should those people not get to choose?
To honor a slave state that no longer exists?
Again, you are happy to consign these countries to the domination by Russia.
That is not defensible in any way.
When all you have is a “US foreign policy is always wrong” hammer, the desires of the people of eastern Europe are a whole lot of nails.
That’s very far from clear. The latest discussion I get to in a quick search, by Steven Pifer, argues pretty strongly that there was no agreement, quoting Gorbachev 2014:
Gorbachev’s famous earlier formulation, that the alliance would not expand “as much as a thumb’s width further to the East,” was a reference just to the territory of the DDR.
SInce there’s plenty of documentary evidence of an agreement not to allow non-German troops in East Germany, which existed on real paper, and none to an agreement not to expand NATO at all, the former seems more likely to be what Gorbachev meant all along.
Not to say that the expansion of NATO was wise, and I think it definitely should at least have been taken about 30 years slower, but the Polish and Baltic States governments were really clamoring for it. (Yes, Latvia and Estonia should have been less brutal to their own ethnic-Russian citizens and Russian would have had less of an excuse to threaten them.) Ukraine, on the other hand, could not have qualified for NATO membership for decades, and Putin’s insistence that Ukraine was being turned into an enemy was just wrong. It wasn’t going to happen.
They can, but only with Russia. To do otherwise would be encirclement.
I saw a balloon that David Petraeus may be brought in to replace Flynn and save the day.
I must admit that a National Security Advisor who funneled state secrets to his journalist mistress would be a substantial improvement over who funnels them to the Russian government. Still decidedly sub-optimal, though.
At first I thought you meant a comic strip balloon. I hope they do it. Petraeus won’t last long either. It’ll be the ultimate revenge of the emails.
Yes, US-Russia relations certainly seem a convoluted mess at this point, with our spies hardly knowing which end is up.
As we speculate upon the extent of treasonous activity by Flynn and Rexxon and Der Trumper, there must be some postulation concerning what exactly Der Trumper hopes to obtain from throwing Obama’s sanctions policy under the bus–a policy I had thought our “conservative” party and MIC had enthusiastically endorsed, given their love of Cold War politics and the increased military spending that it necessitates.
Is Trumper’s motivation purely a planned grifting operation for Trump Properties? Is this Putin-adoration simply a mask for some hoped-for for-profit “deals” by his family business? Tremendous Deals! Presumably Trait…er, patriot Rexxon’s goal is to aid his REAL life-long concern, Exxon, in the oil exploration game, most especially in the pristine Siberian Arctic. What nutjob ex-general Flynn gets out of fellating Putin seems a mystery…
Absent treason in aid of a family business, the question is how one thinks the Obama sanctions over Crimea are ever to end, and if they don’t end, what sort of relationship a non-traitorous prez should have with Putin’s Russia?
One can certainly see the New Russia as the spider at the center of an ever-expanding web of global instability, centered on destabilization of Western democracies and alliances by aiding and abetting the election of authoritarian/nationalist regimes. While it’s sort of mysterious where exactly this gets Putin, other than in a world where the is no clear alliance system against him, the evidence so far seems to fit the theory. In this view, America is always the principal enemy of Russia, and the goal of their foreign policy is always to harm us.
But having said that, Putin is simply not ever going to return the Russian naval base at Sebastopol to Ukraine. Russia annexed Crimea in 1783, after fighting over it for decades before that. For all intents and purposes, it’s Russia. The only reason “Ukraine” had anything to do with “holding” it at independence was because of an incidental internal re-org of the Soviet Empire in 1953 or 54, I forget.
The Russian generals and admirals have decided that a democratic Ukraine can’t control Sebastopol, and it’s hard to see how ANY imaginable iteration of Russian leadership is going to return to the post-independence map of Ukraine. Very likely it’s not going to happen if punishing sanctions last a thousand years.
So what to do? It’s a real problem, but there is one team that I KNOW cannot possibly come up with a coherent and defensible answer to the problem of Putin….
Your “history” on this — and it’s recent enough that what actually happened is fully accessible — is incorrect. Start with garbage and any speculations and conclusions about the future will be garbage as well. Not all that different from those that began with the “domino theory” in SE Asia and USSR infiltration of Central America. The outcomes of which were tragic for millions of people — but like the great WMD hoax, few of those millions were Americans.
>>what actually happened is fully accessible
i strongly disagree with this statement. I don’t think we’re well informed at all about what has really happened in Ukraine the last few years. What is accessible is what all the contending sides have to say, all of it very slanted and little of it IMO believable.
Well, if she meant Ukraine instead of Kuwait, then some of it is simple.
Russia intervened in Ukraine because they didn’t want Ukraine making closer ties to Europe (not just NATO) and then annexed Crimea.
Ukraine did not invade Russian territory.
What Ukraine does naturally concerns Russia, but political interference is one thing (both sides are guilty of that) and invasion and annexation are another.
The dispute with Kuwait was about oil production and prices, but this was linked to their debt to Kuwait. This is from an interview with Saddam after the was in custody.
The fact that Kuwait and other Arab nations expected to be repaid, and promptly, was a key driver of Iraq’s fury, and the price of oil was related to their inability or unwillingness to pay.
Not making money off the Ruskies, just good business.
Not loans from oligarchs, walk away like he did with other loans.
Not a personal relationship with Putin. Friends are friends but business is business.
Not hiring hookers in Moscow, just shows how much of a stud Donald is.
No, either on tape conspiring to damage the US (treason)or….
Tape with underage girls, and considering comments about Ivanka, probably some who look a lot like her.
It would be irresponsible not to speculate, to quote some of our conservative friends.
He is going to be shuffled off the stage by the powers that be.
Ridge
The person and organization that’s getting a free pass here is Comey and the FBI.
What does Putin have on these traitors?
The Republican cult has a lot to answer for, but again after Iraq, Katrina, the Great Recession, and now allowing willful manipulation by foreign interests during a presidential election – what needs to penetrate the vacuum in the voters’ heads?
Comey’s role in this whole sorry spectacle certainly should never be forgotten nor forgiven.
Very well laid out exposition/argument, Booman.
‘Tis pity we have no Sam Ervin, no Barbara Jordan to lead the charge this time.
Whoops, posted this under the wrong comment. Gotta repost where it belongs.
Flynn may have fallen on his sword, but leaves the nagging question: what did the president know and when did he know it?
Ahem. As I was saying (in the wrong place):
‘Tis pity we have no Sam Ervin, no Barbara Jordan to lead the charge this time.