When it comes to Washington Post columnist David Ignatius, I have long seen him as an informal member of the Intelligence Community who often acts as their mouthpiece. For example, back in April 2012 I wrote the following about what I could learn about the progress of nuclear negotiations with Iran from reading Ignatius’s column:
I always need to read between the lines of any David Ignatius column to see whose agenda he’s pushing. He usually operates as a tool of our intelligence community, and what he says is less important than the interests he’s advancing. I have to say that I am quite relieved to see that the story line Ignatius is pushing this morning is that the nuclear talks with Iran are well-designed, working well, and likely to succeed in a peaceful and mutually acceptable settlement.
I don’t really care what Ignatius thinks about the talks, but it’s a good sign that his “masters” want to send the message that our government is pleased with the progress so far. It’s not a familiar message. Normally, what we hear is bellicose, alarmist, and apocalyptic.
It’s in this basic context that I go back and read Ignatius’s column (and the update to that column) from January 12th. As is his habit, Ignatius buried the lede in the 10th paragraph where he revealed that “According to a senior U.S. government official, [Michael] Flynn phoned Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak several times on Dec. 29, the day the Obama administration announced the expulsion of 35 Russian officials as well as other measures in retaliation for the hacking.”
As far as I can tell, this was the first public notice that Michael Flynn had spoken with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak on December 29th. But it wasn’t the only message that Ignatius was sending. At the top of his piece, he focused on the ongoing investigation of the “dossier about possible Russia-Trump contacts prepared by a former British intelligence officer” and wrote that “In a case where a foreign intelligence service allegedly ran a covert action against the United States’ political system, aborting the inquiry would be scandalous.”
Yet, despite the Flynn-Kislyak call being buried in the piece, it was immediately noticed. Sean Spicer was asked about it the next day and assured people that he had talked to Flynn and that the call had not involved a discussion of sanctions. As for Ignatius, the Trump folks got back to him and buried him an avalanche of obfuscation.
The Trump transition team did not respond Thursday night to a request for comment. But two team members called with information Friday morning. A first Trump official confirmed that Flynn had spoken with Kislyak by phone, but said the calls were before sanctions were announced and didn’t cover that topic. This official later added that Flynn’s initial call was to express condolences to Kislyak after the terrorist killing of the Russian ambassador to Ankara Dec. 19, and that Flynn made a second call Dec. 28 to express condolences for the shoot-down of a Russian plane carrying a choir to Syria. In that second call, Flynn also discussed plans for a Trump-Putin conversation sometime after the inauguration. In addition, a second Trump official said the Dec. 28 call included an invitation from Kislyak for a Trump administration official to visit Kazakhstan for a conference in late January.
Remember, Ignatius’s reporting was clear: “According to a senior U.S. government official, Flynn phoned Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak several times on Dec. 29.” The initial response from the transition team didn’t even acknowledge a call on the 29th.
Of course, Ignatius didn’t report that the Intelligence Community had a recording of the December 29th call(s), and a transcript, and knew exactly what was discussed. And that could explain why the Trump team lied to him on Friday morning and why Spicer spread lies about it on Friday afternoon and why Vice-President Pence spread lies about it on Sunday morning.
The way that both Spicer and Pence presented their defense of Flynn, it was clear that they had both spoken to him and were relying on his characterizations of the call(s).
At that point, (and it was still five days before the inauguration) it appeared that Flynn had lied to senior members of the transition team and could be exposed by the Russians at any time. That opened him up to potential blackmail, but only so long as his lies remained a secret known only by the Intelligence Community and the Russians.
Now, here is where the story gets very confusing and quite interesting.
It wasn’t until yesterday that the news broke in the Washington Post that the Trump administration had been warned that Flynn was subject to blackmail.
According to the story:
The acting attorney general informed the Trump White House late last month that she believed Michael Flynn had misled senior administration officials about the nature of his communications with the Russian ambassador to the United States, and warned that the national security adviser was potentially vulnerable to Russian blackmail, current and former U.S. officials said.
There are some clues here. The “acting” attorney general was Sally Q. Yates, and she was only the “acting” attorney general from noon on January 20th, when Trump became president, until January 30th when she was fired for refusing to enforce Trump’s Muslim Ban in court. So, she sent notification that Flynn had lied and could be blackmailed to the Trump administration sometime in the ten days between the 20th and 30th.
That seems a little late for the Trump team to learn about the transcript(s) and it also makes very little sense. After all, the simple act of telling the administration that Flynn had lied and providing them with the evidence would immediately eliminate the possibility of Flynn being blackmailed by the Russians. Why would he do the Russians’ bidding to avoid the administration learning something that the Intelligence Community had already told the administration?
The only way that could work is if both the Russians and Flynn remained ignorant of the fact that the truth had been exposed to Trump and his inner circle.
Nonetheless, that’s the story we’re being told. Ostensibly, the DOJ notified the administration that Flynn had lied and was vulnerable to blackmail and then the Trump administration responded by firing the messenger (for unrelated reasons) and doing absolutely nothing about Flynn.
So, after another two weeks went by with no action, “current and former U.S. officials” went to the Washington Post and leaked about the blackmail angle. Once the news hit, Flynn didn’t last the evening.
But, as I discussed in my last piece, yesterday’s knockout punch was preceded by a bunch of activity coming out of Mike Pence’s office. On Friday the 10th, word leaked out that Pence was angry that Flynn had lied to him and caused him to tell untruths during his January 15th appearance on Face the Nation. And this is still the story the administration is telling as kind of “the last straw.”
WATCH: @MLauer's full interview with @kellyannepolls on departure of #MichaelFlynn https://t.co/PZ1PGtACUY
— TODAY (@TODAYshow) February 14, 2017
As Matt Lauer incredulously noted, it doesn’t make sense that the administration knew for two weeks that Flynn was subject to blackmail but only decided to fire him when Mike Pence belatedly realized that he’d been lied to a month earlier.
It’s very hard to believe that the Trump administration remained ignorant about the transcript(s) prior to getting the DOJ notice in “late January.” But, assuming that is actually true, they knew at least at that point the threat of blackmail was over and that Flynn still had a real problem. In fact, no later than that point, they realized that Spicer and Pence had a problem because they were on the record defending Flynn.
If we read between the lines here, it’s clear that something a little different happened. The DOJ notice wasn’t really about the Russians blackmailing Flynn. It was about the Intelligence Community blackmailing Trump. If they didn’t get rid of Flynn voluntarily, then they’d leak the transcripts and expose them all for lying.
It wasn’t the only message that was fired across the administration’s bow. The CIA denied one of Flynn’s National Security Council appointee’s a security clearance. A senior Defense Intelligence analyst said, “since January 20, we’ve assumed that the Kremlin has ears inside the SITROOM [Situation Room],” and “There’s not much the Russians don’t know at this point.” There were “multiple current and former US law enforcement and intelligence officials” who told CNN that the British dossier was getting corroborated. “Two defense officials” were quoted saying that “the Army has been investigating whether Mr. Flynn received money from the Russian government during a trip he took to Moscow in 2015” in possible violation of the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution.
It was a barrage aimed at the Trump administration, and it was coming from all quarters: the Army, the DIA, the CIA, the DOJ, the FBI, and the NSA.
Then I noticed that tidbit I mentioned in the last piece about the FBI “examining Mr. Flynn’s phone calls as he came under growing questions about his interactions with Russian officials and his management of the National Security Council.
The FBI was investigating Flynn’s phone calls because of his management of the National Security Council?
Well, he only started managing the National Security Council on January 20th. Mike Pence was getting lied to on the weekend of the 15th. And what does his management in late January have to do with his phone calls in late December? Finally, we already know that they were keyed in on Flynn from at least the 29th of December.
Were the FBI and the DOJ really concerned about impossible blackmail? Or were they concerned that Flynn was a Russian mole and determined to oust him from his position?
Well consider this:
In light of this, and out of worries about the White House’s ability to keep secrets, some of our spy agencies have begun withholding intelligence from the Oval Office. Why risk your most sensitive information if the president may ignore it anyway? A senior National Security Agency official explained that NSA was systematically holding back some of the “good stuff” from the White House, in an unprecedented move. For decades, NSA has prepared special reports for the president’s eyes only, containing enormously sensitive intelligence. In the last three weeks, however, NSA has ceased doing this, fearing Trump and his staff cannot keep their best SIGINT secrets.
It’s hard to say whether it’s more significant that this has been happening or that it leaked at the particular moment that it leaked. In both cases, though, it shows that the Intelligence Community was absolutely fed up with Flynn’s continued employment as National Security Adviser.
Some questions remain, including what Pence’s role may have been. It could be that he was out of the loop on Flynn’s contacts with the Russians and that he was genuinely deceived by Flynn. He may have worked in coordination with elements in the Intelligence Community to force Flynn out.
Another possibility is that the concern about Flynn lying to Pence became a convenient cover story (a limited hangout). Since Pence was caught in a lie, this was a way to have Flynn fall on his sword and inoculate Pence and the rest of the administration.
But, if this was the case, it wasn’t well thought through because the next question immediately became why the administration left Flynn in place for weeks after learning of his subterfuge, and why he was allowed to resign rather than being fired.
It doesn’t add up because, the way it is being told, the blackmail story doesn’t make any sense.
Of course, the blackmail story could be true in an altered form. If the Intelligence Community developed information we still don’t know about that would subject Flynn to blackmail, then that could indeed have led directly to his demise. It’s just that he couldn’t have been blackmailed over a phone call if everyone already knew the content of that phone call.
A lot of things still aren’t clear, but what I can clearly discern is that the Intelligence Community took down Flynn, and the explanation that he was subject to blackmail over the phone call on the 29th isn’t the real reason he lost his job, even if the revelation that DOJ sent that notification was the nail in his coffin.
But there was no non-existent stand down order, and even though the facts on the ground keep changing and contradicting each other, nobody put together talking points for an administration spokeswoman.
Rep. Chaffetz has determined that there’s nothing to investigate, and if there is, it’s up to Devin Nunes at the Intelligence Committee to look into it. Nunes has already pre-excused the administration, claiming executive privilege on its behalf.
Meanwhile the Russian bots posting in the comments section of every news outlet have decided that all of this is really Obama’s fault because he is a Negro.
The funny thing is, none of this is going to work. These guys are history.
And the day after they shit canned Flynn, at least the NYTimes and CNN are reporting a violation of the nuclear treaty by Russia deploying a cruise missile battery. Plus the Ruskies have a spy ship off the coast of Delaware and they buzzed a destroyer in the Black Sea. Is Putin unhappy about Flynn, and losing his eyes and ears?
I love that Matt Lauer interview. In the end Kellyanne says it was the misleading of the VP that became unsustainable. Never mind he never told the President, or allegedly never did. He is just a dumb ass anyway. Matt told her a few times she made no sense. But you gotta hand it to her. She sticks to her script. This begins to look bad to me and now Putin may be annoyed at his new found friend in the WH.
Or it’s a feint to cover up that he has multiple sets of eyes and hears.
Spy vs Spy.
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It keeps getting better. HP is reporting that Trump knew about this in late January. Guess he saw that Lauer interview. Seems he also forgot to tell Pence about his newfound knowledge. How long before this story changes again 5…4…3…
The story keeps changing because no one is in charge. The WH is on auto pilot circling with no destination.
watching events unfold, i’m continually struck by the mirror-universe atmosphere of the new regime compared to its predecessor. the last eight years were filled nonstop with fervid accusations (among countless others) from the fever swamps that obama was a foreign agent bent on america’s destruction. i like to say these days that unlike today’s progressives, freeperville at least had the benefit of being completely delusional …
but now that the tables have been turned and nightmare fantasy become reality, wingnuts couldn’t care less.
… and to the point, those wingnut accusations were almost always accompanied by impotent calls for either the military or the intelligence community or some friendly and not-so-friendly foreign power to step in and rid them of that troublesome potus.
like i said, wingnuts had the benefit of being delusional.
And here’s what WikiLeaks chose to trot out this morning on the subject:
WikiLeaks
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Trump’s National Security Advisor Michael Flynn resigns after destabilization campaign by US spies, Democrats, press https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4nxw0SWEAAIIBF.jpg …
3:41 AM – 14 Feb 2017
WikiLeaks is also using stolen information to hammer away at all of Le Pen’s rivals for France’s upcoming Presidential election.
No, Assange is not a supporter of right-wing nationalists with hot racist rhetoric and discriminatory policies. Not at all.
Assange is certainly predictable, if nothing else.
I refuse to make up my mind until Glenn Greenwald comments.
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Greenwald will do his by now typical “both sides do it” routine, and try to defend Wikileaks in the process. That routine is old, though. He needs new material.
Booman Tribune ~ The Blackmail Story Doesn’t Add Up
Where? I can’t find anything new on any of the major candidates and the last appears to be in Turkish, likely from the leak within Erdogan’s regime and unlikely to be relevant.
Using your favorite search engine to identify “wikileaks french presidential election” will deliver plenty of news accounts on these activities from WikiLeaks. You could also go straight to the WikiLeaks website to look at their stuff yourself. Just know that WikiLeaks is making selective choices in their active promotions of their stolen information.
WikiLeaks has publicized documents which reveal information on each of the three main candidates, Le Pen included. However, during the period of time they have propagandized the French electorate, Le Pen has moved ahead in the polls. This strongly suggests something about the information WikiLeaks is releasing or not releasing, and the information they are most prominently spinning or not spinning. In the wake of their effective work to help Trump win his campaign, we must take note of the pattern here.
Assange has an agenda which is not restrained or defined by demands for open government, reduction of state-sponsored violence, freedom to dissent and protection for whistle-blowers. WikiLeaks’ choices in electoral propagandizings are making that clear now. In their most prominent campaign works, the organizational leaders are choosing to support the viable Presidential candidates who are least likely to support their claimed values.
Anonymous had a tweetstorm about wikileaks and Assange.
Obviously take that with a giant grain of salt, because Anonymous, but it does fit with the transition from what largely appeared to be an idealistic transparency-supporting leak repository to a global fascist / white nationalist supporting political weapon directed by one guy with an axe to grind.
One thing to watch for – there will be two rounds to the French elections. As of now, I’m not aware of any evidence that Front National can gain enough votes to win outright in the first round, although LePen will probably get the highest vote percentage. Can she and her party pull it off in round two? Could Assange do enough damage to her challenger (likely Macron at this juncture) to make that happen? Will Assange still have a home in the Ecuadorian embassy headquarters in London by then? Even without Assange, will the Russian based fake news outlets be able to do enough damage to Macron to pave the way for a LePen regime? Sputnik and RT are certainly doing their level best. Could be interesting, although I am still skeptical of a LePen victory.
I am also skeptical of Le Pen’s ability to win the runoff. But we were all skeptical of a Trump win, and look what WikiLeaks did to create that electoral outcome.
The question remains: why is WikiLeaks doing what it is doing if they truly care about the things they have claimed to care about?
Thanks. Apparently it is the old documents, just re-launched for the election.
I wouldn’t put to much into it, just Wikileaks inserting itself into the conversation. LePen isn’t increasing, she is just holding steady at 25%, while Fillon had a post-primary bump, but is now falling under 20% due to the fake jobs for family scandal exposed by French press. So LePen has gone from number two to number one, but the only thing that matters in the first round is which two goes to round two. Right now it’s Macron (just above 20%) and LePen, but that can change, the election has barely started.
If these old files has any effect, dirt on Macron, Fillon and LePen should benefit Hamon who won the Parti Socialist primary and is now at 15%. He has low name recognition, but high likeability, so he should have potential to grow his support.
If the polls can be trusted (big if, in this day and age) whoever goes to round two will beat LePen 60-40. She’s got a big base, but is also very disliked.
Good. I hope she is not advantaged by propaganda to be made more competitive in a “two evils” election.
OK, so the theory is that the IC actually considered Nutjob Flynn to be a Russian mole in the WH and that this obviously could not be endured? (A pretty out-in-the-open mole it would seem, but whatever.) Is Flynn the only WH mole? The Gruppenfuhrer and his deputy Ratface Miller have no other Russian back channels?
If true, this would mean the mole has been killed and the IC has done its duty. Is Nutjob Flynn now willing to accept the lifelong ignominy? We shall see.
The other issue here, aside from the not believable “blackmail” tale, is the equally not believable “Rogue NSC Chief” tale—that Flynn’s multiple calls with the Ambassador were unknown and unauthorized by the Trumperite inner circle.
In listening to the Hapless Spicer’s presser, he was at pains to bleat that NOTHING Nutjob Flynn did was illegal and that the idiot Prez “instinctively” knew that everything Flynn did was “totally legal”. It sounded like a case of the Lady Doth Protest Too Much to me. If Flynn’s calls that the Russians needn’t worry ’bout those Obammy spy sanctions were oh-so-legal, then why in God’s name did the story have to be concocted that Flynn lied about that content to Doofus Pence? (Leave aside the fact that there doesn’t seem too much concern about informing Der Trumper about the legality of anything).
If the content was legal, then why (supposedly) tell a barefaced lie to the VP about the absence of content? Such an effort to emphasize from the get-go the “clear” legality would make sense if the inner circle had (foolishly) authorized the whole affair and Flynn was just carrying out orders from Trumper/Bannon. Especially given Der Trumper’s appalling “Putin’s the smartest!” tweet of the 30th.
Of course, the inner circle has now denied everything (“We know nothing!”) and the only way their current story makes sense is if Flynn was the Rogue NSC chief-in-waiting, happily promising everything to Putin. Anyway, there is a mole axis, and a what did Trumper authorize axis to this incredible affair.
The executive branch has effectively seized up within three weeks, and the legislative hasn’t done much more than scrap environmental regs so far. I suppose complete paralysis is good if we are talking about Repub rule…but the ship of state is effectively dead in the water.
Spicer’s use of the adjective “instinctively” to describe the President’s response was pretty remarkable.
Re. your last line, I heard about a story or two today which quoted government officials from U.S. allies who said they are being driven to the concept that they will not enjoy the help of the U.S. if a crisis develops, and that they must be prepared to respond on their own.
I want government to function. I don’t want bad government policies to become implemented, but I’m not happy about the incompetence of Trump and Congressional GOP leaders. This is bad for us and the world. There are much worse things than the current world order, which those who hate the current world order will discover posthaste.
People associated with Hillary Clinton wrote emails.
“Is Flynn the only WH mole?”
Certainly not. Off hand, Bannon comes to mind. And no doubt there are others, including people you and I never heard of.
But Flynn wasn’t just any old White House mole. He was National Security Advisor. erving at the pleasure of the SCROTUS. Out of anyone’s control. Surely he has to go first.
This isn’t Glenn Greenwald, I know but interesting to say the least, if true.
NYT on contacts with Russia during the campaign.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/politics/russia-intelligence-communications-trump.html?hp&
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Employ Occam’s Razor, people:
Much more evidence is needed, but it would be irresponsible not to speculate.
People in Hillary Clinton’s orbit wrote emails. Both sides do it.
Not to mention her health “concerns.”
I sincerely hope they’ve been resolved. Excuse me, I couldn’t resist.
I agree on David Ignatius. He had an interview with Wolfowitz right before the Iraq War that unintentionally summed up his lack of preparedness.
I wrote an email to him which he replied to and we exchanged several emails until the invasion.
The gist of it was that from a project management 101 perspective the whole selling of the war was a classic depend on everything going not just well not just perfectly, but even better than that.
The cost of the Gulf War was $60B and we just liberated Kuwait, but this would cost $10-15B.
We would be greeted as liberators in a region famous for instability with no history of democratic rule,
etc. etc etc etc.
There was clearly no risk identification, mgmt, or mitigation going on. As Biden was clearly trying to help them on in spite of themselves.
He thought my points were valid but that Wolfowitz was a serious guy.
Wow. I found this difficult to follow.
Yes, I am morally certain that “the concern about Flynn lying to Pence became a convenient cover story (a limited hangout).” None of them, including Pence, cared that Flynn had lied. To them that was the right thing to do, he was protecting not only himself but Trump and the rest of his pals.
No, they were forced to fire Flynn because THE CIA KNEW he’d talked to the Russians — but they weren’t going to admit that was the reason. So they said it was because he had lied to Pence, which is nothing but a cover story to save face. And no, it wasn’t well thought out, which just shows that it was bullshit. We don’t even know if he DID lie to Pence, but if he did that was not the real reason he resigned. If he told Pence the truth, then by rights Pence would have had to resign as well. Presumably the CIA doesn’t know what he said to Pence.
You say “After all, the simple act of telling the administration that Flynn had lied and providing them with the evidence would immediately eliminate the possibility of Flynn being blackmailed by the Russians”.
But you also say “he couldn’t have been blackmailed over a phone call if everyone already knew the content of that phone call.” I don’t follow you there. Did the DOJ give them the complete transcripts? Or just evidence that the calls were made.
I may well be missing something, but are you confusing being blackmailed over the existence of the calls, with being blackmailed over something that was said IN those calls? Which he Russians could have used against Flynn at any time in the future. Not demanding money, but for national security concessions. Like, don’t make a fuss about us doing x, because if you do we will leak damaging information. (If he stopped cooperating, ipso facto he would have lost his usefulness to them anyway.)
Now the CIA knew the contents of those calls. But from their end, the “blackmail” isn’t over WHAT he said, but the FACT THAT HE SAID IT. (I’ll explain in a second why I put quotes around the word “blackmail”.) Whatever he said, the fact that he said it certifies him as a reckless security risk, because he didn’t even consider that American intelligence would be listening in. In other words, it’s not merely that he violated the Logan Act, he was an extreme security risk.
Now you could justifiably argue that the CIA could be making that up, maybe he didn’t reveal any secrets or make any deals. But just talking to them was reckless enough for the VIA to be terrified at having such a person as head of the NSA. Besides, they have no respect for him, and vice-versa. How could they work with him?
So yeah, no question “the Intelligence Community took down Flynn”. But now I want to consider the term “blackmail”. Blackmail is a crime, and though the CIA commits crimes all the time, I don’t see that here, so blackmail isn’t the correct term. It’s Flynn that was doing something wrong, and I would just say the CIA were acting like cops — after Flynn committed these offenses, having the goods, they put the squeeze on him, which I would call enforcement not blackmail. What they wanted was not money but for him to resign. But it seems to me they were only doing their job, and to do it, they waited for an opportunity to catch him in the act. Since he did resign I don’t think anything worse will happen to him, but they’ll no doubt watch him very closely.
Similarly, you’ve been referring to this as a “coup”. I would use a similar argument. Sure, coups always require a justification, and such justification is often fictitious. Technically, Trump was democratically elected. Or at least constitutionally elected. Technically.
But it’s precisely the Russian interference that makes it impossible to know, we know only that interference had a significant impact. Especially through the FBI clique led by Giuliani and Kallstrom, who as big Trump supporters,sem to have stifled the investigation of the Russian connection.
We do know that Trump took an oath to uphold the constitution and he’s not doing it, he has no conception of what that means and he doesn’t care. The guys around him certainly don’t care.
But from day one Trump certainly hasn’t been governing constitutionally, although he’s been kept in check.
I see people saying that coups are never justified, because they are against democracy. I don’t understand that, because so there are so many governments that are not remotely democracies and cannot be ousted by democratic means. If left to its own devices, I believe the Trump administration would be that kind of government.
The CIA might very well be able to live with that. But what they can’t live with is a government that has no coherent foreign policy, national security, or national intelligence.
OK, here we are, the other shoe has dropped.
http://new.www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-campaign-russia_us_58a3ca36e4b03df370dba994?
But you’re calling what they’re doing to Trump a coup? I think it would be more accurate to say that Trump came to power through a coup. Coups often have foreign backers, and this coup was backed by Putin.
And I still think Hillary was a lousy candidate. She won by 3 million votes because nearly all Bernie Sanders supporters voted for her to defeat Trump, just like Bernie told them to.
Y’know, there’s a segment of the electorate that didn’t like either Clinton or Sanders for various reasons, didn’t want either one of them as our candidate, but pulled the lever for the eventual Democratic nominee instead of throwing our vote away on Johnson or Stein because we understand the difference between a whack upside the head and being fed through a wood chipper.
OK.