The day after Christmas in 2002 Dana Priest and Barton Gellman of the Washington Post reported what, in retrospect, should have been a bombshell. The United States had officially abandoned all pretext of honoring human rights. After revealing that prisoners in Afghanistan were being “held in awkward, painful positions and deprived of sleep with a 24-hour bombardment of lights,” they go on to say:
In the multifaceted global war on terrorism waged by the Bush administration, one of the most opaque — yet vital — fronts is the detention and interrogation of terrorism suspects. U.S. officials have said little publicly about the captives’ names, numbers or whereabouts, and virtually nothing about interrogation methods. But interviews with several former intelligence officials and 10 current U.S. national security officials — including several people who witnessed the handling of prisoners — provide insight into how the U.S. government is prosecuting this part of the war.
The picture that emerges is of a brass-knuckled quest for information, often in concert with allies of dubious human rights reputation, in which the traditional lines between right and wrong, legal and inhumane, are evolving and blurred.
While the U.S. government publicly denounces the use of torture, each of the current national security officials interviewed for this article defended the use of violence against captives as just and necessary. They expressed confidence that the American public would back their view. The CIA, which has primary responsibility for interrogations, declined to comment.
That’s ten sources. Let’s take ten excerpts from this article.
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“If you don’t violate someone’s human rights some of the time, you probably aren’t doing your job,” said one official who has supervised the capture and transfer of accused terrorists. “I don’t think we want to be promoting a view of zero tolerance on this. That was the whole problem for a long time with the CIA..”
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According to one official who has been directly involved in rendering captives into foreign hands, the understanding is, “We don’t kick the [expletive] out of them. We send them to other countries so they can kick the [expletive] out of them.”
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In some cases, highly trained CIA officers question captives through interpreters. In others, the intelligence agency undertakes a “false flag” operation using fake decor and disguises meant to deceive a captive into thinking he is imprisoned in a country with a reputation for brutality, when, in reality, he is still in CIA hands.
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According to Americans with direct knowledge and others who have witnessed the treatment, captives are often “softened up” by MPs and U.S. Army Special Forces troops who beat them up and confine them in tiny rooms. The alleged terrorists are commonly blindfolded and thrown into walls, bound in painful positions, subjected to loud noises and deprived of sleep. The tone of intimidation and fear is the beginning, they said, of a process of piercing a prisoner’s resistance.
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Bush administration appointees and career national security officials acknowledged that, as one of them put it, “our guys may kick them around a little bit in the adrenaline of the immediate aftermath.”
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Another said U.S. personnel are scrupulous in providing medical care to captives, adding in a deadpan voice, that “pain control in wounded patients is a very subjective thing.”
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But five officials acknowledged, as one of them put it, “that sometimes a friendly country can be invited to ‘want’ someone we grab.” Then, other officials said, the foreign government will charge him with a crime of some sort.
One official who has had direct involvement in renditions said he knew they were likely to be tortured. “I . . . do it with my eyes open,” he said.
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“Based largely on the Central American human rights experience,” said Fred Hitz, former CIA inspector general, “we don’t do torture, and we can’t countenance torture in terms of we can’t know of it.” But if a country offers information gleaned from interrogations, “we can use the fruits of it.”
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Bush administration officials said the CIA, in practice, is using a narrow definition of what counts as “knowing” that a suspect has been tortured. “If we’re not there in the room, who is to say?” said one official conversant with recent reports of renditions.
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After years of fruitless talks in Egypt, President Bill Clinton cut off funding and cooperation with the directorate of Egypt’s general intelligence service, whose torture of suspects has been a perennial theme in State Department human rights reports.
“You can be sure,” one Bush administration official said, “that we are not spending a lot of time on that now.”
The reality was even worse than Priest and Gellman described on December 26, 2002. In 2005, Priest would reveal the CIA’s black prison sites (for which she won a Pulitzer Prize in 2006). It turned out that we didn’t outsource all the torture. Tell me again why we should just look forward?
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Why should we just look forward? Because Obama can’t even get Dawn Johnson to a vote in the Senate.
that’s some serious grade-A bullshit you’re peddling there, rootless.
Political reality is that the US Senate won’t even vote on a OLC nominee who said torturers should be prosecuted. There is no public outcry. No press/blog complaint. Given that reality, demands that Obama invest in prosecution of the CIA agents are essentially demands that he blow off his entire government agenda for a futile struggle.
total b.s.
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Of course, he was waterboarded 183 times in March 2003 alone. And even if we make some kind of exception for KSM since he was supposedly the mastermind of 9/11 and could be considered a true ticking-time bomb example, this shit extends so far beyond KSM.
No. It’s not a political issue.
Of course it is a political issue. Bush did many immoral things – all of which deserve prosecution in just world. If you are going to worry about KSM’s children, what about the children in Iraq who have illegal White Phosphorus burns? What about the people who died of thirst in New Orleans? What about Padilla – tortured into insanity by the military or the people in Bahgram tortured to death by the military or the effing Abu Graihb coverup? Congress is implicated and afraid of puker retailiation. Obama would be incredibly naive not to worry about CIA retaliation against him – as almost certainly happened to Carter. What Obama did was open the discussion: he published the memos and put the public on the spot which was a courageous decision. And where is the public outcry that will force the government to do the right thing?
So if Obama makes the political calculation that punishing the people who tortured KSM’s children would cost 2 critical votes on healthcare?
And do you think similarly that Mandela’s decision to support Truth Commissions in SA rather than prosecute people who tortured his friends to death was also impermissable?
I use that example only to demonstrate that Obama doesn’t have the right to make this political. I’m okay with some degree of protection for people that operated within the confines of OLC guidance, but not in completely shutting down all investigations of CIA (and I might add, Defense Department) behavior. He should leave it to Holder without interference.
He cannot afford to “leave it to Holder without interference”.
Perhaps my opinion on this is colored by my belief that the CIA has been routinely torturing people since 1948. I don’t think that CIA advisors to Savak even under the Sainted Carter were just there to assure that the Marquess de Queensbury rules of debate were being followed.
I repeat: the South African legal system started post-apartheid life under the cloud of a massively morally ambiguous deal in which the people who had tortured thousands to death were permitted a free pass in exchange for testimony and peace with the new government. Do you think Nelson Mandela was evil for not leaving this decision up to professional prosecutors?
I do not. I don’t think punishment of the guilty is as important as protection of innocent.
Well, my lobbying and that of others, seems to be working, so I will not be following your advice to be realistic.
I’m all for pressuring for prosecutions. I’m just against either pretending innocence or that Obama is somehow morally obligated to privilege prosecution of CIA malefactors over, e.g. providing medical care to poor children.
But this “new” development was implicit all along: the statements of non-prosecution were very carefully worded.
that is not the choice he faces.
Because of course, nobody in the deeply implicated Congress would ever think of trading protection for their torture project for votes on domestic issues? That would be morally unthinkable?
Because Obama’s political capital is infinite and he can get in a protracted bitter battle over national security with the Congress and the in-the-bag media lining up in a united front against him, without that having any effect on his health care or other domestic agendas?
Fucking FDR sent Jews back to German soap factories in order to protect the New Deal because he didn’t think he could win battles against the nazi sympathizers in his own government and he knuckled under to crazy people to intern the Japanese-Americans, and he folded like cheap wal-mart lawn chair under the weight of a 400pounder on civil rights for african-americans. The nature of governing is immoral and unexcusable tradeoffs. You don’t get to get in bed with the devil and plead headache.
Here’s what non-CIA employees did