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    The point I was making was that if the boundaries are respected, date rape will not happen. Boundary issues are…
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    • Exactly.  But if winning is important, it makes good sense to learn both the rules and the skills first. Hence--Verbal…
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    • is that so many people don't even realize that the two styles of behavior are possible. People see the "other"…
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    • Good diary & great discussion.
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    • But it's a theft of the other person's bodily integrity. As the self-help people might say, it's a boundary issue.…
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    • "That they are so insensitive to the suffering that rape causes merely shows me what a shallow and callous human…
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    • "Men, Elgin asserts, are trained from boyhood to use verbal fencing as a human substitute for puppy-wrestling. They keep score,…
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    • I think I've been pretty clear: I have been speaking in generalities. With all of the associated baggage of special-case…
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    • that abortion is "horrible", how the hell can you really support the availability of abortion? I do it every day.…
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    • And the key point being--the kinds of arguments to sway a Feeling decision are different from the kinds that will…
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    • Isn't 20-20 hindsight wonderful? ;-o Here's a guess at the kinds of situations that might have been in play. She:…
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    • Perhaps because it isn't "sexy"? One thing I'm starting to notice is that there is a very strong aversion on…
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    • CategoryVerbalSelfDefense diaries are based on the work of Suzette Haden Elgin.
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    • Probably not. The fact that you ask suggests that you doubt yourself. Has your gut feeling ever led you wrongly?…
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    • Because religion also uses emotional language well, and the progressives were very late getting up to speak.
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    • None of these deeper issues seem to catch fire at kos--but perhaps here at the frog pond, they will. I…
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    • The same informal formatting that works at dKos works here, too. I still don't bother with html coding for links.
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    • a Socrates cafe?
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